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Peterson seen driving to marina 3 times
SFChronicle.com ^ | November 14, 2003 | Henry Lee

Posted on 11/14/2003 5:32:37 AM PST by runningbear

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To: Canadian Outrage
Good Night all. Be back tomorrow. I'm very tired and have a tinge of upset stomach today.
101 posted on 11/14/2003 7:35:45 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Velveeta; Spunky; Sandylapper
Is Campos the hospital worker who was supposedly out back smoking? If so, Greta had a feature on that alleged Laci sighting. Greta said during questioning, the officer who had a report on that sighting was testifying in general that the woman said she saw a pregnant woman with a golden retriever and two unkempt men, at about 10:50 a.m. We know that can't be b/c the dog was not with Laci at that time.

But apparently on cross exam, they asked the officer what about the written report concerning this. They asked if the report actually said the witness said she saw the pregnant woman, etc., at 9:50 instead of at 10:50. The officer supposedly confirmed that the REPORT actually said 9:50.
102 posted on 11/14/2003 8:28:14 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: An American In Dairyland
LOL, guess what, AAID! The male stripper that Amber had that affair with is the same guy whose wife was pregnant during the affair. He sounds like a real prize. (She sure can pick 'em.)

There is absolutely nothing probative that Geragos can get by calling Amber as his witness during this hearing. Nothing. Therefore, I think the talk of a subpoena, and the ominous "papers" given to Allred by Geragos' go-fer, are just a lot of hot air intimidation.

I mean, okay, let's see him call her as his witness. He would be hard-pressed to do anything except try to impeach her. That is not valid legal practice--calling YOUR witness so that you can impeach YOUR witness. This is just more of Geragos' media-hound hot air. If by some quirk she does end up on the stand, called by Geragos, during this prelim, I don't see how it could possibly hurt the prosecution. I do see how it could possibly make Geragos look like a buffoon. (Leaving behind his usual DIGNITY and RESPECT... Laugh. Out. Loud!)
103 posted on 11/14/2003 8:34:13 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Thats not good news. But Laci would have had to finish washing her floor and get to that area in about 20 minutes - I wonder how far away it was?
104 posted on 11/14/2003 8:37:53 PM PST by Cloe
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To: Devil_Anse; Velveeta; Spunky; Canadian Outrage; MaggieMay; STOCKHRSE; All
Hey, All! I'm finally back and want to say hi, we had a great dinner, fun and all that!

Now, I'm having to go back to square one on this case. After watching Greta tonight, I'm not sure that I think MPD did a very good job with their tips, especially the Campos hospital worker, and possibly with other tips from folks in the park that day that said there were seedy-looking characters jumping out of bushes, scaring people, etc. Believe they should have done a whole lot better than that.

Behavior as described above tends to bring me back to a point Ray made a long time back--that MPD was trying to make the evidence fit their scenario versus letting the evidence lead them. Campos, the hospital worker, should have not been written off so summarily, IMO. Why did it happen? What about Campos was very possibly a "witness to a crime in progress", but it didn't "fit the MPD scenario." JMO

105 posted on 11/14/2003 8:49:47 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Cloe
That's what Greta was wondering. So she and (I think) Laura Ingle started at the point where the alleged witness was standing, and began to stroll through the park, headed for Laci's house. They were going to test the amount of time.

And then I had to go pick up my son.

So unfortunately I don't know how long it took to get from Laci's house to the point where she was allegedly sighted! But, as you say, she'd have had to finish mopping the floor at least, and CHANGE HER CLOTHES from the black pants/white shirt, into the tan pants/patterned shirt, and put on her shoes, and then get the dog and get over there.

I'm sure someone here saw the rest of Greta. Hope they will tell us what she concluded.
106 posted on 11/14/2003 8:51:58 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
But did anyone see you pick up your son?????
107 posted on 11/14/2003 8:55:04 PM PST by landerwy
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To: Sandylapper
According to Greta VS, this story does bear looking into. But I'm not ready to buy the Geragos line of b.s. just yet, lol!
108 posted on 11/14/2003 8:57:28 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Yes, I hope someone will let us know.
I really can't see Laci moving too fast at that stage of her pregnancy - and I forgot about her having to change her clothes - that would take up some time too.
109 posted on 11/14/2003 9:01:59 PM PST by Cloe
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To: Devil_Anse; All
Anse, I did see Greta and Laura and believe that the walk took 20 minutes. The timeline would fit with the 9:50 hour, but not the 10:45 or 10:50, whatever was written in the report.
110 posted on 11/14/2003 9:05:14 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
Well, we've got to consider that according to Mr. Prime Witness Scott, she was planning on going shopping to get stuff for the brunch she'd be hosting, BEFORE she took the dog for his walk. Also, even if she dropped the mop the minute Scott strolled out the door at 9:30, she'd still have to put on her shoes, and CHANGE HER CLOTHES FROM THE BLACK PANTS/WHITE SHIRT, to the TAN PANTS/PATTERNED SHIRT, and then get the dog, and then start her walk. Oh--and also put the breakfast dishes in the sink or dishwasher, on her way out!
111 posted on 11/14/2003 9:09:03 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
The article that mentions that witness does not state what she said Laci was wearing. It only says she [the witness] saw a woman, 6-7 months pregnant,with straight, shoulder length hair, walking a golden retriever.
112 posted on 11/14/2003 9:17:26 PM PST by Cloe
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To: Devil_Anse
Well, if I'm trying to be fair and objective, here's what I could imagine happenend:

(1) Has anybody ever said that Scott said he left at exactly 9:30 on the dot?

(2) Did the "possible" witness say that it was exactly 9:50 on the dot, or could Scott and the witnesses' times be approximations?

I could envision a scenario where Laci said to Scott, "Before you go, I see dirt in front of those doors that Nava missed yesterday. Bring in the mop and bucket." Then I could see Laci quickly mopping, changing her clothes, picking up the dog leash, mop and bucket, and setting it outside, calling Mackensie, and taking off. Mackensie was a fast walker, and probably dragged Laci if he's anything like my dog.

One other thing I thought was disturbing. This witness said one of the men said, "Shut your effing dog up", because the dog was barking loudly. We've got to have the transcripts to today's session, for sure!

113 posted on 11/14/2003 9:27:01 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: runningbear
So...whatever happened with Condit and Shandra Levy??
114 posted on 11/14/2003 9:28:50 PM PST by technomage
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To: Cloe
Article? Where's the article? Somewhere I thought I say that her hair was dark. I need to go read the article! Thanks, Cloe!
115 posted on 11/14/2003 9:29:05 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse
The officer testified again after the lunch break during which he listened to the taped interview again. Officer testified that on the tape Campos said 10:50am twice on the recording.

Also, I guys one of these dirty guys was wearing a blue jean jacket. One of the "jump out of the bushes guys" seen by the Sousas had on a down jacket.

Everybody wearing coats on that 40 degree day EXCEPT Laci, just wearing a white top. Hmmmm.
116 posted on 11/14/2003 9:29:33 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Cloe
And how did this witness conclude that the woman she saw was 6 or 7 months pregnant unless she knew Laci or read the newspaper? How many more goldens go to that park? and that was in the news also.
117 posted on 11/14/2003 9:30:16 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sandylapper
say = saw
118 posted on 11/14/2003 9:31:05 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
Campos says she saw Laci and dog at 10:45 and watched her and the 2 guys walking until 10:55.

The dog was in the Peterson's backyard at 10:18. Campos was debunked.
119 posted on 11/14/2003 9:34:07 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: runningbear
"You'd rather just come to the conclusion that it's suspicious because he's returning to the scene," Geragos said.

Yes!

120 posted on 11/14/2003 9:34:31 PM PST by auboy (I'm out here on the front lines, sleep in peace tonight–American Soldier–Toby Keith, Chuck Cannon)
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