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Peterson seen driving to marina 3 times
SFChronicle.com ^ | November 14, 2003 | Henry Lee

Posted on 11/14/2003 5:32:37 AM PST by runningbear

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To: Jackie-O
I must admit that Geragos keeps things interesting. Not one dull moment since he took the case!

I would have loved to have seen Gloria's face at that moment.

21 posted on 11/14/2003 11:08:15 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: maggiefluffs; All
Lawyer: Accused husband's ex-girlfriend not subpoenaed
Friday, November 14, 2003 Posted: 1:22 PM EST (1822 GMT)

MODESTO, California (CNN) -- A lawyer representing Amber Frey, the former girlfriend of accused murderer Scott Peterson, said Friday that she has been served with documents from the defense but that they did not appear to call Frey to testify in a preliminary hearing.
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/14/peterson.hearing/

***So was she or wasn't she subpoenaed???***

22 posted on 11/14/2003 11:13:48 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
***So was she or wasn't she subpoenaed???***

You never know with Gloria. She may be doing some creative "interpretation". BTW, is the court in session today?

23 posted on 11/14/2003 11:28:15 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Help Bring Colly-fornia Back!)
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To: BunnySlippers
Yes, court is in session. I haven't heard any new revelations yet.
24 posted on 11/14/2003 11:29:17 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
I thought the preliminary was held solely to determine if the defendant should be bound over for trial. I can't imagine a basis for Geragos to call her.
25 posted on 11/14/2003 11:30:17 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Help Bring Colly-fornia Back!)
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To: BunnySlippers; All
***I guess Amber was NOT called to testify***

Defense issuing subpoenas relating to Frey
BEE STAFF REPORTS

http://www.modbee.com/reports/peterson/updates/story/7736438p-8638229c.html
Last Updated: November 14, 2003, 09:19:00 AM PST


9:15 a.m. PST: Papers given to attorney Gloria Allred outside the Stanislaus County courthouse Thursday afternoon were a notice from Scott Peterson's defense attorney, The Bee has learned.
A paralegal from Mark Geragos' law firm handed Allred legal documents after Peterson's preliminary hearing concluded for the day.

Those papers were a notice that the defense is subpoenaing documents from other parties relating to Frey, Peterson's girlfriend at the time his wife, Laci, disappeared.

Peterson is charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of his wife and their son, who was to be named Conner. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
26 posted on 11/14/2003 11:36:22 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: truthkeeper
>>Since they had a short marriage, he may not have even been stuck with any spousal support.<<

I dsisagree. With a brand new baby, Laci would have gotten the house and Snotty would have gotten the mortgage. She'd probably be given some spousal/family support for at least 6 months (prolly much longer) to be with the new baby. If there were joint debts and a lien on her vehicle those would have gone to Snott and she would have kept the goodies.

>>Laci was a substitute teacher so the court would impute income to her anyway. <<

Out of the dozens of divorce cases I personally know of, not ONE ever imputed income to a woman. Not even when the woman was a college graduate and already established in a high wage earning profession such as a surgical nurse.

Family court would be especially reluctant to impute income to any mother even when the children are grown or nearly grown. This is all the more true when the mother in question is a brand new mother. Family court is one of the most PC institutions in this country. Keep in mind that most family court judges are elected.

>>Of course, he would have had to have paid some child support, but a decent family law attorney would have kept the amount reasonable. <<

I disagree again. In almost (if not all) states, CS is set per statute on some sort of formula based almost always on the income of the male. The best lawyer in the world would have a very hard time getting the court to deviate from the formula.

Snott and his mistress on the side would have been living on "love" as he'd have been stripped of every penny he owned in a divorce.

The prosecution hopefully has covered this divorce-money aspect as a possible motive. Personally I find it more believable than Snott finding it impossible to live without his mistress.

>>Instead he's paying Mark Geragos NOW.<<

Wrong again. Whacky Jackie and Lee are paying Geragos. And since they raised Snotty to be the sociopathic creep he is today, perhaps that's only just and fair.


27 posted on 11/14/2003 12:53:49 PM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: All; An American In Dairyland; runningbear; maggiefluffs; Devil_Anse; Canadian Outrage; Jackie-O; ..
Defense: Conner may have been born alive
By GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITER


Last Updated: November 14, 2003, 12:26:00 PM PST


12:26 p.m., PST: Scott Peterson's defense attorney raised the prospect this morning that Conner Peterson was born alive before he was killed.
If true, the allegation would cast serious doubt on whether Scott Peterson was involved in the disappearance and deaths of his wife and their son.

Testimony this morning in Peterson's preliminary hearing on double-murder charges also included disputes over a paint transfer on his fishing boat and discussion of more witnesses who thought they may have seen his pregnant wife, Laci, walking their dog Christmas Eve morning.

Attorney Mark Geragos used words such as "full-term infant" and "speculation that the baby was 38 to 39 weeks old" while questioning Modesto police Detective Phil Owen, who attended two autopsies on the remains of Laci Peterson.

"Was it indicated in the autopsy that the baby may have been born alive?" Geragos asked Owen. Judge Al Girolami ordered the entire exchange stricken from the court record when it was determined that Owen had not attended autopsies on the remains of Conner Peterson.

Scott Peterson, 31, faces the death penalty if convicted of murdering his wife and unborn son. He was dressed in a tan suit and light blue shirt this morning.

Laci Peterson's pregnancy was about 32 weeks along when she was last examined by an obstetrician on Dec. 23 - the day before she was reported missing. Authorities believe her husband killed her that night or the next morning.

Her remains were recovered clad in tan maternity pants similar to what her sister, Amy Rocha, said she wore the evening of Dec. 23. Scott Peterson told authorities his wife was wearing black pants when he left for a solo fishing trip to San Francisco Bay the morning of Dec. 24.

Both bodies were found in April along the shore a few miles from where Peterson said he fished.

But some people in the Petersons' La Loma neighborhood have told The Bee they saw Laci Peterson walking her golden retriever that morning - after the time police believe she was slain.

Under questioning by Geragos, Owen acknowledged this morning that he interviewed three people on Dec. 27 with stories that Geragos said could "negate an element of the crime."

John and Karma Souza told the detective they saw a suspicious man in a puffy jacket and blue jeans who "popped out of bushes" as they jogged on a trail in East La Loma Park early that morning.

At about 10:50 a.m., Diana Campos, an employee of a nearby hospital, saw a pregnant woman walking a golden retriever with two men along a path in the park, Owen said. Campos described the woman as 6-to-7 months pregnant with straight, shoulder-length hair, and the men as extremely dirty.

Campos saw a flier about Laci Peterson's disappearance on Dec. 26 and called police the next day. "She said to herself, 'I know that girl,' and realized it was the same subject she saw walking through the park," Geragos said.

Owen agreed, but said he thought the witness had seen reports on the disappearance. "I felt she was giving me information that was not going in the right direction," he testified.

The alleged sighting could be crucial because Scott Peterson came under tight police surveillance after Christmas Eve and likely would not have had an opportunity to act.

Owen also acknowledged having scraped paint from a red buoy in the bay to compare with paint that showed up on the right side of Peterson's 14-foot aluminum fishing boat. Geragos suggested that police theorized that the defendant tied his boat to the buoy to keep it from capsizing when he dumped his wife's body - but the paint samples didn't match.

Geragos also suggested that the paint transfer may have occurred when police bumped the boat against a red dolly at a police storage area.

"Did you ever consider that it was Modesto police that cause the paint transfer?" Geragos asked.

Owen said he wasn't aware there was a red hand-truck in the storage area.
http://www.modbee.com/reports/peterson/updates/story/7736641p-8640323c.html
28 posted on 11/14/2003 12:59:01 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
>>Testimony this morning in Peterson's preliminary hearing on double-murder charges also included disputes over a paint transfer on his fishing boat and discussion of more witnesses who thought they may have seen his pregnant wife, Laci, walking their dog Christmas Eve morning. <<

Thanks Vel! I'm so tired of these dog-walking witnesses. Come to think of it, I think I saw Laci and McKenzie out walking past my house last Xmas Eve. Sheesh.
29 posted on 11/14/2003 1:06:25 PM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: Velveeta
Thanks, Vel! I'm really behind today! So much is happening and I've gotta run again! BBL
30 posted on 11/14/2003 1:12:43 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Jackie-O
That's okay> Geragos may just get MORE than he's bargaining for.
31 posted on 11/14/2003 1:15:32 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: runningbear
LOL if Gloria has imparted even a partial amount of her forcefulness, Geragos just may have his hands full. Besides, I don't think the Judge will allow him to be really really brutal. It just may backfire. The public may turn even more against this puke. Amber didn't HAVE to help Police but she did. She did because it was the right thing to do. I'm sure she'd rather be doing something else. Shows me she has some character.
32 posted on 11/14/2003 1:18:58 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Velveeta; Jackie-O; Devil_Anse; Sandylapper; grizzfan; All
This is from the Fox News website,titled,"Scott Peterson's Ex Mistress May Testify Monday."There seems to be a lot of speculation in the various news services,about what Geragos is actually doing in reguards to a subpoena.
link
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103074,00.html
33 posted on 11/14/2003 1:19:04 PM PST by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: maggiefluffs
That's good news Maggie. I wasn't aware that blocking the Defense witness was something the Judge could do.
34 posted on 11/14/2003 1:21:44 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: StarFan
You said it!! Grandstanding, Geragos's favorite behaviour.
35 posted on 11/14/2003 1:23:43 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Velveeta
Good heavens. I did hear Gloria Allred this morning say that if the Defense calls Amber to testify that they may get more than they bargained for.
36 posted on 11/14/2003 1:27:20 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I am missing a thread here, maybe yesterday's? It had about 300 posts in it and I thought I could just use "search" to find it. I can't. Would someone provide a link? Thanks a lot!
37 posted on 11/14/2003 1:30:52 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: An American In Dairyland
I'm tired of these "witnesses" also. Strange how they ALL saw her something she wasn't wearing!! Strange also how that her cell phone was in her car and her purse and house keys were hanging the closet. NOW we have to listen to this Conner was born alive bs??? I really really dislike Geragos and always have. He's dishonest, a blowhard and a media hound.
38 posted on 11/14/2003 1:35:09 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Yaelle
check your comments!! I think that will get you to the thread.
39 posted on 11/14/2003 1:41:47 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
This is a rather interesting discussion:


Video

Hammer & Moore Friday: Discussing The Latest Peterson Developments

http://www.ktvu.com/video/2637899/detail.html
40 posted on 11/14/2003 1:47:42 PM PST by maggief
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