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Cyprus and Greece
Essay | Dec. 4th, 2003 | George Post

Posted on 12/04/2003 11:05:27 AM PST by WashingtonRules

Cyprus has been destroyed by Greece many times over. Its people is indigenous and does not belong to the Greek racial characteristics, although many migrants from Greece arrived during the Ottoman Empires open borders which allowed Greeks to prosper and migrate to other lands. Many Greeks also migrated during the period which the British Empire temporarily monitored the island at the approval of the Ottomans. The Greeks arrived in huge numbers during the period where economic, political and social conditions in Greece were horrendous after the Greeks declared their independece from the Ottoman Turks.

The Greek government suffered greatly after they fell for a British bait for them to attack the Ottomans in 1919 while they were at war with Armenian terrorists, Kurdish bandits, UK, France, Russia and Italy. This was after the wars that were stirred up by the British in Iraq, Palestine and Arabia, which were all relatively peaceful and prosperous under the Ottoman Turks. The Greeks assaulted, pillaged, destroyed, murdered and raped the Turkish populations of Northern Greece and the Aegean. The Greeks burned down Izmir(Smyrna) They later assaulted Rhodes, which was 90% Turkish, until the megalo racist philosophies of the Greek Orthodox church flourished their thoughts that ended in defeat.

The Greeks were forgiven by the Turks, but they didn't let go of there demonizing and conquering campaign. Cyprus, which was never given back to its rightful owner, Turkey, had been declared a federal nation with two communities, Turks and Greeks(which were a majority after they migrated from Greece). The nation had 3 Guarantors under Treaty: Turkey, Greece and the United Kingdom. During the 50s the Greek government was arming and inciting ethnic Greeks to start taking away the democratic powers of the peaceful Turkish community.

Greeks assaulted Turkish villages and openly practiced ethnic cleansing. The result was a Treaty that was signed in 1963 at the expense and suffering of the Turkish population. In 1974, the Greeks had once again built up demonization and conquering tendencies. They brutally killed thousands of Cypriot Turks, mostly women and children. The final straw was when they declared Enosis(union with Greece) and toppled the Cypriot Government. Obviously, being the culprit, Greece did not exercise its Guarantor rights to protect Cypriots and Britain declined. Turkey took on the mighty challenged and crushed the Greek military in a matter of 48 hours. Cyprus has been divided to two sections since Turkey liberated the ethnic Cypriots. There has been no death and war since.

The only negative impact has been an embargo pressured throught the US congress by the powerful Greek American lobbyists at a time when the world knew very little of Turkey(Midnight Express was later produced by Greek/Armenian partnership to present a demonized view of Turks). The EU, in an effort to prevent democratic Turkey's entry into the EU, declared that it give a way Cyprus(in theory to Greek control) and went as far as offending Turkey by accepting a divided burden of a nation, before a friend and defender of Europe, Turkey. Turkey has been on the frontline of the Cold War and now the Terror War.


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1 posted on 12/04/2003 11:05:28 AM PST by WashingtonRules
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To: WashingtonRules
Im glad you informed me of such a reaking news item.
2 posted on 12/04/2003 11:07:50 AM PST by smith288 (Did you even look at yourself in the mirror when you left the house??? Ugh)
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To: WashingtonRules; Admin Moderator
This does not belong in breaking news.
3 posted on 12/04/2003 11:08:13 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (If you build it, city council will change zoning on you.)
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To: WashingtonRules
"WashingtonRules"

Not with Spurrier as their coach, they don't.

4 posted on 12/04/2003 11:08:56 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: WashingtonRules
Apparently since you live by "Washington Rules" you've ignored FR rules. Could be a good essay. But it's not Breaking News.

Welcome to FR. Hope you have a thick skin.
6 posted on 12/04/2003 11:09:48 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (I'm not Fonda Hillary! / www.wardsmythe.com)
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To: WashingtonRules

Michael Dukakis- Governor

Olympia Dukakis- Actress

George Stephanopoulos- Journalist/ Political Analyst

It's Greek to me!


7 posted on 12/04/2003 11:12:48 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("He's got to win in '04. No one else can prosecute this war like he can."- Cpt. J. Morrison, Baghdad)
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To: WashingtonRules
And Lord knows, the good and gracious Turks have never mishandled a Greek in any way over the centuries.....

Based on my observations of Turkish "support" for our operations in Iraq, I only have one thing to say regarding that particular nation:

Turkey sucks.
8 posted on 12/04/2003 11:13:10 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: WashingtonRules

Does that make Al Franken "Cyprus"?

9 posted on 12/04/2003 11:15:19 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("He's got to win in '04. No one else can prosecute this war like he can."- Cpt. J. Morrison, Baghdad)
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To: Lead Moderator
But Dallas rules with Parcells, right.:-)
10 posted on 12/04/2003 11:15:31 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (We're gonna get you, Philly. Be afraid. Be very afraid.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Isn't Arianna Huffington greek too?
11 posted on 12/04/2003 11:23:13 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: WashingtonRules
Wow, you must think we're all really ignorant,Turk.

105th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. CON. RES. 148

Commemorating the 75th anniversary of the burning of Smyrna and honoring the memory of its civilian victims, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

September 9, 1997 Mrs. MALONEY of New York (for herself, Mr. SHERMAN, and Mr. BILIRAKIS) submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on International Relations

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CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

Commemorating the 75th anniversary of the burning of Smyrna and honoring the memory of its civilian victims, and for other purposes.

Whereas in 1914 the Turkish Nationalist regime initiated a systematic campaign to eradicate the ethnic Greek population in Asia Minor, consigning and killing thousands of male conscripts in forced labor battalions and destroying Greek towns and villages and slaughtering additional hundreds of thousands of civilians in areas where Greeks composed a majority, as on the Black Sea coast, Pontus, and areas around Smyrna;

Whereas in 1922, Smyrna, the largest city in Asia Minor, a cosmopolitan hub populated by a highly educated Greek community and flourishing commercial and middle classes, was sacked and burned and its inhabitants massacred by the Turkish forces of Kemal Attaturk;

Whereas Turkish forces turned on the Greek population, whose numbers had swelled to 400,000 with the influx of refugees from Greek villages destroyed in the countryside, after first slaughtering the Armenians of Smyrna in their quarters;

Whereas on September 9, 1922, Turkish soldiers, led by their officers, set fire to Smyrna and razed most of the city under the gaze of United States, British, and French ships and foreign diplomats and journalists stationed offshore;

Whereas Metropolitan Chrysostomos, the spiritual leader of the Orthodox Christians in Smyrna who refused to abandon the city, was seized from religious services he was conducting in the cathedral by Turkish police forces and given over to be dismembered by a mob in the streets;

Whereas 3 other Orthodox metropolitans were brutally tortured to death in 1921 and 1922, as were 37 Armenian clerics and thousands of priests in the broader period from 1894 to 1923;

Whereas in 1923 more than 1,200,000 Greeks were expelled from Turkey; and

Whereas persecutions of Greeks in Turkey were repeated in a pogrom in Istanbul in 1955 whereby Orthodox churches and Greek businesses were burned and vandalized, again in 1964 with the expulsions of Greeks, and continues today with restrictions on press and religious freedoms and harassment of the Ecumenical Patriarchate: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That--

(1) the Congress joins the Hellenic and the Armenian American communities in honoring the memory of the victims of Smyrna in 1922 and the millions of Orthodox Christians who perished in the genocidal campaign in Asia Minor from 1894 to 1923;

(2) the United States should encourage the Republic of Turkey to take all appropriate steps to acknowledge these crimes against humanity and commemorate the victims at Smyrna; and

(3) the American people should never forget these events, and an accurate history thereof should be restored and preserved so that such atrocities may never be repeated.

12 posted on 12/04/2003 11:30:36 AM PST by katnip
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To: katnip
Wow. Game, set, and match. Nicely done.

I'm a little baffled why we see an occasional Turkish propagandist show up here from time to time, trying to convince us how wonderful Turks are compared to Greeks. Perhaps they don't know that most of the U. S. really doesn't care one way or the other who started the Greek / Turk hate fest. We just want them not to drag us into it.

13 posted on 12/04/2003 11:40:10 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: Snuffington
You're right, I don't know why some Turks feel they need to come here and rewrite history. No one here much cares anyway.

My husbands grandfather escaped Smyrna and came to this country. I've made it mine and my sons job to know his
heritage.
14 posted on 12/04/2003 11:51:23 AM PST by katnip
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Granite, you've hit the better looking bunch of pro-Communist government Greece's narrators in the US.

Try Bilirakis and bunch of others that are only in power because they represent the hate donations that brought them to power. As we all know, their policies stink. Greeks have always voted Democrat.
15 posted on 12/04/2003 12:05:42 PM PST by WashingtonRules
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To: katnip
Katnip, you shouldn't ASSume anyone that exposes Greek Myths at the halls of Congress as being Turkish. There are many Americans that are aware of your people's hidden agenda.

Everyone can read how opinionated, lack of historical facts, and one-sided the bill you cut/paste on this post is. And to see Bilirakis(Greek) and Pallone(major pro Greek/Armenian support) to support this bill rests my case that Greeks are a wedge between Turkey and the rest of the Western world.

Believe, I can get into ancient history too. Etruscans, Ionian, Lydians, Sumerians, Trojans, Thracians and Khazar were all Turkic tribes that predate most Greek Civilizations. Greeks are not truly from the area that they settled in 3,000 years ago. They originally are from the Indus Valley and are of the Indo Aryan group of languages. Turkic has been proven to be one of the oldest European languages. Proof can be found in the Isles of Ireland, Shores of Sweden/Finland/Denmark, France, Switzerland and of course Anatolia, written in the oldest form of Turkic language, RUNIC, Dated 5,000 years ago....

The GREEK MYTH will is exposed.

Try Education, rather then church hate sermons, to learn your history.
16 posted on 12/04/2003 12:14:53 PM PST by WashingtonRules
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To: WashingtonRules
"Cyprus has been destroyed by Greece many times over. Its people is indigenous and does not belong to the Greek racial characteristics, although many migrants from Greece arrived during the Ottoman Empires open borders which allowed Greeks to prosper and migrate to other lands."

This articel appeared in a paper?? The writer sounds like he can't speak English. As a matter of fact, the writer sounds like - A TURK!!!

The Islamic Turks, not the Greeks are the interlopers here. They are descended from barbarians from Central Asia who converted to Islam and, surprise, surprise, looted, plundered, murdered, raped, enslaved and burnt their way into Christian Anatolia and the Balkans.

Christians have suffered enough from Muslims, including the expansive Turks who once laid siege to Vienna itself and captured and plundered the Christian city of Constantinople, turning the Cathedral of Hagia Sophia into a Muslim mosque, as it remian today to the disgrace of all Christiandom.

Log live Vlad Tepes!!!!
17 posted on 12/04/2003 12:27:57 PM PST by ZULU
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To: WashingtonRules
Oh boy, you guys want Ireland now too?
18 posted on 12/04/2003 12:32:33 PM PST by katnip
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To: WashingtonRules
There are many Americans that are aware of your people's hidden agenda.

Try Education, rather then church hate sermons, to learn your history.

I'm an American buddy. Educated enough by Roman Catholic nuns to know the tripe you're spewing is a bunch of sh*t. Irish/Swede heritage. We don't like liars.

19 posted on 12/04/2003 1:01:39 PM PST by katnip
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To: katnip
Just facts katnip. Read a little. Try www.khazaria.com

FYI- Turks were one of the first Christians. The Karsak/Kafkas Turks from the Caucasus(not Armenians who emigrated in the 5th century) adopted Christianity early on as Nestorians as the some of the tribes in Buhara. Later on, the Bulgars, Khazars and Huns adopted Christianity.

No one claimed Ireland or Sweden. Just the facts. Read on the Turks Isle in NorthWest Ireland and Birke in Sweden. There are also countless Turkic burial sites throughout the Ukraine(Scythians) and some found in Switzerland(hence burial mounds with their horses by their side are strictly a Turkic rite).

Stop reading the Greek bull that has been elevated to create a pseudo-christian superiority based on so-called the birth of Western Democracy, where only the elite practiced democracies and the people they subjugated were forced to have ALL of their men killed off(Miletus/Milletians-birth of Philosophy-not Greeks). Macedonians aren't Greek. Ionians aren't Greek. Even todays Greeks are the ancient Greeks. The ancient artisans of Greece emigrated during Roman supremacy. They settled in the land of the Vandals. Today's Greeks are gypsies from the Middle East and India(no Turks mixed with the Greeks-hence the different Euro-Asiatic features of Turks).
20 posted on 12/04/2003 1:49:41 PM PST by WashingtonRules
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