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While 4th ID Major General Presses "Be Lethal" Message, One of his own Lt. Col. Stands So Charged
Sierra Times ^ | december 9, 2003 | Debi Brand

Posted on 12/09/2003 4:05:51 PM PST by Ispy4u

In seeking to find the equitableness in the case against Lt. Col Allen B. West, one struggles as the news poured out of Iraq, in regard to the action of the troops of the 4th ID--which Col West was a part of up until he was removed from his battalion command-- with in the span of one week, included the following:

November 17 Reuters reported: Angered by bomb attacks ... the commander of a US battalion in Iraq sent his tanks and armored vehicles through the streets on Monday in a demonstration of firepower to insurgents. Weapons of choice: Abrams tanks, Bradley fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, “.. Infantrymen in full battle dress... machine-guns mounted on Humvees...”

Message cast: It’s in your best interest to not resist us; cooperate with us; tell us what you know of the activities aiding this insurgency. Or there will be severe and fearsome consequences to pay. November 18, World Net Daily report:

'Heroic' officer faces Army hearing Lt. Col. West argues aggressive interrogation saved lives of troops Article breakdown: after suffering previous ambush attacks to his troops, upon being tipped-off of yet another organized attack designed for he and his men; in an attempt to advert that pending attack, Lt. Col. Allen B. West-- former commander of the 4th ID’s 2 battalion of it’s 20th Field Artillery Regiment--used a demonstration of fire power. Thus, successfully obtained legitimate human intel sufficient to avoid that foe-scheduled appointment with death for he and his troops.

Weapon of choice: 9 mm weapon. Fired twice; close to the mans head; with the urging: “Talk or I kill.”

The man, who had been with his female interrogators for two hours and yet only claimed he knew nothing, suddenly with the aid to his memory granted him by the aggressive actions of Col. West, was blest with total recall.

Additionally on November 18, Washington Post carried a story: This, a narrative of this division’s major general, MG Ray Odierno. It Spelled out, how he pressed to drive home his message to officers under his command: “ ... make sure you understand my intent: that I want to be lethal. Make them, (any insurgents) understand.”

This General is said to “care deeply” for his soldiers. Said to be a man who “lead by example”, a no nonsense kind of a leader. Article also spotlighted, General Odierno was “the youngest division commander and one of the most rapidly promoted officers of West Point's Class of 1976.”

Next caption: 18 November, Los Angeles Times: U.S. Flexes Its Muscles in Iraq's North, Tells of “Intimidation campaign.” Used to 'send a signal.’ Weapon of choice: “a missile carrying a 500-pound warhead.”

Message implied: No more footsies; Cooperate: Or there will be hell to pay.

November 19, Reuters: Emotional U.S. officer admits wrongdoing in Iraq.

Opening paragraphs quote a man who says he knows his actions were not in line with Article 128 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but argues his actions were in line with his will to do all he could to keep his promise to the families he and his boys left back in Ft. Hood, TX. That being, bring them home alive.

Weapon of choice: recall the 9mm pistol.

Intended end: Cooperate; or else.

Twentieth November, Army Times: “Military in Iraq gunning more firepower as scare tactic for insurgents”

Weapons of choice: “artillery, tanks and aircraft.” Message sent: Conveyed in article’s title.

All these, from the ranks of the 4th ID.

Now the hearing is past, and once he receives the recommendation from the Article 32 hearing officer the decision of what to do to Col. West lies with Major General Ray Odierno.

Should that recommendation be to proceed with a court martial, the General is in a tough spot.

How can he in good conscience do any thing less than decide to bring this--except for it’s sombourous possible ends --ridiculum on our will to be lethal without apology, to an all ready all-to-late and none-to-soon abrupt end?

Mean while, a division watches. So too, a nation.

Likewise an most lethal foe.

All-the-while, daily this past week the death toll in the 4th ID continued to rise. And as a mother of one 4th ID soldier, we can only pray our son is blessed enough to be serving under the command of a man the likes of the height, width and stock not far from that seen in Lt. Col Allen B. West.

Debi M. Brand 918-283-2477 20405 E. Hwy. 20 Claremore, OK 74019 Mother of a 4th ID Soldier, Serving in Iraq since Early April, When his unit first went in


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 4thid; alanbwest; allenwest; col; colwest; ltc; ltcwest; west
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To: BSunday
Our nation has embraced a good rule in sports activities that applies in Col. West's military interrogation situtation.

"No harm, no foul."

41 posted on 12/10/2003 6:51:38 AM PST by thinktwice (America is truly blessed ... with George W. Bush as President..)
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To: Poohbah
Please demonstrate that the ambush was actually about to happen

No need to. The burden of proof rests on the prosecution. Now please stop trying to assassinate people's character.

42 posted on 12/10/2003 8:19:03 AM PST by BSunday (Libs, libs, everywhere, but not a brain to pick)
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To: thinktwice
"No harm, no foul."

Good point. I think it is probably one of the basic laws of the universe, or something like that.

43 posted on 12/10/2003 8:38:20 AM PST by BSunday (Libs, libs, everywhere, but not a brain to pick)
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To: Ispy4u
Good thing you are not responsible for other lives, isn't it.

LVM

44 posted on 12/10/2003 12:00:01 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Thunder was his engine and White Lightning was his load....)
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To: LasVegasMac
How do you know I'm not?
45 posted on 12/11/2003 5:30:48 AM PST by Ispy4u
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To: Ispy4u
How do you know I'm not?

You would have killed someone by now.

LVM

46 posted on 12/11/2003 8:13:36 AM PST by LasVegasMac (Thunder was his engine and White Lightning was his load....)
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To: Ispy4u
Obviously, you enjoy the insults. You will NEVER, NEVER change some people's minds.
47 posted on 12/11/2003 8:27:45 AM PST by verity
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To: verity
I guess I'm just as stubborn.

Thanks for reminding me that beating my head against the wall is bad for me. : )
48 posted on 12/11/2003 8:30:26 AM PST by Ispy4u
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To: Ispy4u
And it damages the wall! :~)
49 posted on 12/11/2003 9:12:07 AM PST by verity
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