Enough With The Neocon And Paleocon Carping—I'll Stand With George W. Bush In 2004

Toogood Reports ^ | Thursday, December 11, 2003; 12:01 a.m. EST | Bernard Chapin

[Fledermaus]

In other words, you'd like to see a Democrat in the White House -- I guess you learned nothing during 8 years of Clinton.

Sorry, but that's intellectually lazy and simply childish.

I could just as easily say that if you aren't willing to spend $75,000 on a Humvee, you want your children to die in an accident. Come on, you know better than that.

[Dane]

In other words, you'd(Fledermaus) like to see a Democrat in the White House -- I guess you learned nothing during 8 years of Clinton.

Exactly, except Fledermaus and the other so called malcontents use Clintonian tactics to mask it.

[Concentrate]

The Prez leans left for 2 reasons:
1. He's more to the left than purists, so he's actually not doing so, and...
2. To get more votes by acknowledging the general will of the people.

Only a centrist can win this election. Or at least a seeming Centrist. All others are wasted votes, as the general will rejects the extreme right or left.

[nopardons]

How about making even the " pro-choicers " having to call a baby in utero a BABY ?

How about the anti partial birth abortion stuff ?

There's a HUGE list, in FR's archieves, with his accomplishments, many of which, I'm certain you would agree with. :-)

[SAJ]

To quote from someone you likely dislike, ''There are no contradictions. If you think there are, check your premises.''

I agree with you in that I think it extremely unlikely, short of some amazing outrage, that the American people will revolt against the government. However, I do trust that you will consider my opinion, whether you agree with it or not, is sincere, and that I am not an hypocrite.

If revolt is not a likelihood, and, again, I do not think it is, then the options are very clear: stay, and let this gov't grind you down one way or another, or leave.

I would hate to leave this lovely land, but I shall, if I can no longer see any hope for the practice of the principles of the Constitution.

And, given current developments, in fairly short order, too.

[nopardons]

They are ONLY well pleased, when they and everyone else here is miserable. The all of NOTHING crowd, is never so happy, as when they get NOTHING; unfortunately.

[Howlin]

Presidency of George W. Bush --the first 36 months



Banned Partial Birth Abortion


Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.

Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.

Killed the U.S. - CCCP ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.

Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy.

Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.

Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules that would have shut down every home business in America.

Passed 2 tax cuts----1 of which was the largest Dollar value tax cut in history

Pushed through TWO raises for our military.

Increased Defense Dept funding which had deteriorated during the previous 8 years

Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit

Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.

Ordered Attorney-General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, NOT a leftist-imagined *collective* right.
Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control.

Successfully executed 2 wars: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.

Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the Presidency

Reorganized bureaucracy...after 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency: the Department of Homeland Security.

Initiated discussion on Social security and individual investment accounts.

Improving govt. efficiency with .8 million jobs put up for bid...weakening unions and cutting undeserved pay raises. Wants merit based promotions/raises only.

Executed a WAR ON TERROR by getting world-wide cooperation to track funds/terrorists (has cut off much of the terrorist's funding and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network)

Stopped foreign aid that would be used to fund abortions.

Supported and upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals

Signed E.O. reversing Clinton policy of not requiring parental consent under the Medical Privacy Act


Orchestrated Republican control of the White House, the House AND the Senate.

Killed the liberal ABA's role in vetting federal judges for Congress.

GWB signed an executive order enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision (re: union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes)

Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed

Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.

Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia

Initiated comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE was critical.

Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first ten ABM silos in Alaska, so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes

Turning around an inherited economy in recession.

Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains

In process of eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people

Signed into law the No Child Left Behind legislation delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations)

Reorganized the INS in an attempt to safeguard the borders and ports of America and to eliminate bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.

Signed trade promotion authority

Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men and women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa

Urging Medicare Reform

Urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits

Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims

Submitted comprehensive energy plan--awaits Congressional action (works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.)

Endorses and promotes The Responsibility Era ("In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else -- to one in which every single American understands that he or she are responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself. " -----this quote was too good to leave out)

Started the USA Freedom Corps

Pushing for privatization of Medicare and CHOICES based on current Federal Employee Health benefits program.

Initiated review of all federal agencies with a goal to eliminate federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of federal gov while increasing private sector jobs.

Part of coalition (Russia, Israel, Palestine, USA) for Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace"

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become The League of Nations ( in other words, completely irrelevant)

Nominated strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.

Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary clean-up of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.

As part of the national forests clean-up, the President restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges) and removed the need for an EIS (Environmental Impact Statement) before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.

Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.

[EGPWS]

Why do you think the left despises him so?!

Some from the left have conveyed to me they hate him because he's stupid!...(chuckle) I hope I never find a fox as stupid as Dubya' on my property!

[SAJ]

Correct. A few years of living in certain other nations would likely enhance their respect for the Constitution VERY sharply. Alas, 'tis not to be, eh?

[Dane]

I would hate to leave this lovely land, but I shall, if I can no longer see any hope for the practice of the principles of the Constitution

Then go already and stop your whining masked as flowery rhtoric.

[Fledermaus]

Exactly, except Fledermaus and the other so called malcontents use Clintonian tactics to mask it.

What a joke. I bet I was fighting Democrats before you were born. I hate most all of them. But I'd take a Truman over Bush 41.

I've been on the front lines of the conservative wars since the early 1970's and I'm not going to have soft-bellied, give away the store types tell me I'm too much a purist!

I stood behind Reagan, Newt and others for decades only to be sold out constantly when the rubber hit the road (much less so by Reagan who still raised taxes on Soc Sec, gasoline, watered down reforms). Compromise is one thing. Co-opting the other's beliefs to gain politcal advantage is not leadership and does nothing but continue to meld the "two major parties" into one giant monolith of bureaucrats, regulators, cronies and hucksters who are all never held accountable for their mistakes, their mindless idiocy or their flat out criminality.

Sorry, I'm a conservative and I want true conservative governance of small federal powers based completely on the Constitution that IS NOT a f'ing "living, breathing document" to be re-interpreted every decade based not on it's law, but the precedent of the courts.

Don't dare lecture me when you are the ones willing to throw principle out the window to "win" but can never tell us exactly what you won.

[EGPWS]

Well said and "ditto's" to your excellent post for it is a great reminder to all as to what Dubya' has done.

My reply is more of the same however depth of it is lacking...(I haven't got the wind!) LoL's : )

[nopardons]

Good... LEAVE ! What you'll then find out, is that no other place will satify you either; NONE.

From the very beginnings of this nation, the government has refrained from doing what you and others imagine they should have done and done what you rail against governments and presidents doing. We, all of us, can only vote for those who will do the least TO us and ours and do a bit of what we want done. That's REALITY , not childish wistfullness; which is what you engage in.

And revolt is completely and utterly just a daydream of those who refuse to comprehend exactly what would happen here, yes, even here, should that be attempted. If no one led a revolt during the 8 years of the Clinton horde, it just is NOT going to happen...unless something REALLY horrendous happens, such as being overtaken by the now faltering, faded, almost gone Taliban/OBL's goons.

[Concentrate]

Quite impressive! Can I have a copy of that?

[nopardons]

Hey, we're still friends and what are friends for? LOL

But seriously, that was one worthy post! :-)

[Fledermaus]

SAJ and I were fighting Clinton hard those eight years WELL BEFORE FRepublic even existed in other forums.

[nopardons]

Well then, you should know, that I have been fighting, as well, the evil Dems, where I was, and FREEPING all alone, when Jim was still in kindergarten and FR wasn't even a gleam in his eye. LOL

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"When all is said and done, when it comes to domestic issues, it looks to me like the legacy of the Republican control of Congress and the presidency for the first time in 50 years is going to be the largest entitlement in modern times, the greatest increase in domestic spending in modern times and one of the greatest set-backs for liberty in modern times. That's the legacy of Republican control of government. This may be "compassionate" conservatism, but it's not "conservatism" at all."

[SAJ]

Ah, the hidden totalitarian mindset. If you don't agree, leave, if we'll let you. Or die.

Just, dane, as I would encourage you to make the best decision(s) for your own life in your own good time, I trust that you would allow me the same. And so I shall, in my own good time.

You would presume to dictate the time frame of MY decisions because you disagree with my view on certain matters?

Wow. What size brown shirt do you wear?

[FairOpinion]

"I would hate to leave this lovely land, but I shall, "

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And you should leave indeed, if you don't appreciate what we have here. Go live somewhere else, and you would kiss the ground and beg on your knees to be let back in.