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Bush rules out 'blanket amnesty'
Washington Times ^ | 12/16/03 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 12/15/2003 9:45:11 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:11:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush yesterday ruled out granting "blanket amnesty" to as many as 12 million immigrants illegally in the United States, but said he supports a policy that benefits American business owners and immigrant job seekers.

"We need to have an immigration policy that helps match any willing employer with any willing employee," Mr. Bush said in a news conference yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; dreamact; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; republicanturncoats
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To: Torie
"Security" will also be the admission of failure by Bush and Ridge.

The greatest country in the world can't secure it's borders.

41 posted on 12/15/2003 10:51:51 PM PST by texastoo (What a Continent!!! (sarcasm))
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To: Sabertooth
BTW, that's the first time a federal official has conceded that there might be as many as 12 million Illegals in the country.

Ironic?
42 posted on 12/15/2003 10:56:03 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals (It's more than a lib/con thing- All 3 branches of govt colluded to limit the 1st amendmenthave been)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
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43 posted on 12/15/2003 11:03:25 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Southack
Texas is already on the Basic Pilot Extension Act. We were one of the pilot states. It is used with large corporations mainly. Let me assure you that illegal immigration has increased in Texas since its implementation.

No one has mentioned militarizing the borders. Just you.

If Bush can't enforce our immigration laws then he must admit he is a failure.

This one issue that you refer to includes:

1- Sovereignty
2- Social Security
3- Welfare
4- Homeland security
5- Education
6- Infrastructure
7- Health care
8- Crime and corruption
9- Environmental issues
10-Medicare

Illegal alien immigration is one heck of "one Issue"
44 posted on 12/15/2003 11:09:52 PM PST by texastoo (What a Continent!!! (sarcasm))
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To: Southack
First, President Bush is against blanket amnesty.

That's like being against flagrant fouls. Who isn't?

Second, President Bush just expanded the workplace verification bill so that employers like me don't get faked by the forged documents of illegals.

It's voluntary.

But that's not good enough, is it?

Not even close. President Bush is resolutely unserious about getting Illegals out of the country. There are millions more here now, after he took office, and after the worst terrorist attack in History was perpetrated by violators of our immigration laws.

If Bush doesn't militarize the borders, then he's with them rather than us to far too many gullible posters around here.

And I'm seldom persuaded by such all-or-nothing positions.

It's not my position at all.

Not every President has been against blanket amnesty for illegals. Bush is.

Every President has been against blanket Amnesties for Illegals. Even President Reagan.

Even in that Amnesty, some Illegals, like convicted felons, were not eligible.

Not every President would have extended the verification program. Bush did.

Every President signs toothless, feel-good bills.

So even on this one issue, Americans could do far worse than to have Bush in office.

The only reason why President Bush isn't just as bad as President Clinton is because he hasn't successfully passed a Section 245(i) Amnesty, yet. Though not for lack of trying.

Neither was serious about deporting Illegals from the interior, and that's where the solution lies.

President Bush signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal Aliens
S. 1685, the Basic Pilot Extension Act of 2003, was signed by President Bush on December 3, 2003.

It extends for five years the workplace employment eligibility authorization pilot programs created in 1996. It expands the pilot programs from the original five states to all 50 states.

As I said, it's voluntary.

Here's what's coming...

Matricula consular ID cards make sense
      Posted by yonif
On 12/15/2003 12:53:36 PM PST with 18 comments


The Morning Call ^ | December 15, 2003
The Bush administration nearly reached agreement with the Vicente Fox government to give legal status to millions of Mexicans illegally in America, but Sept. 11 brought it to a halt. Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said Tuesday it's time for a legal status short of citizenship for 8 to 12 million illegal immigrants from various countries. The government would legalize the status of those already in the country on a one-time basis, he said. ''Then, as a country, you make a decision that from this day forward, this is the process of entry, and if you violate that process of...
     
 
Playing political games with illegal immigration: Buying votes affects us all
      Posted by yonif
On 12/15/2003 4:03:25 PM PST with 14 comments


JewishWorldReview ^ | Dec. 15, 2003 | Joe Scarborough
George Bush, the Republican Congress and Democratic politicians are playing political games with illegal immigration. And it could cost you and your family your lives. By now, you know how craven politicians are when it comes up to grabbing Hispanic votes. They cynically believe that minority voters in border states are going to like them a lot more if they reward Mexicans for breaking American laws. We have told you about how California, and maybe even your state, wants to give illegal immigrants their own driver's licenses. And even that crass move makes us all less safe in those post-9/11...
     
 
New Hope on Immigration (New York Times Editorial)
      Posted by sarcasm
On 12/15/2003 3:54:08 PM PST with 15 comments


The New York Times ^ | December 15, 2003
ithout more detail, it was hard to determine, exactly, what Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge meant when he called for an ambitious plan to give millions of illegal immigrants some kind of legal status. But his candid comments in Miami last Tuesday, which apparently caught the White House off guard, offer the first hopeful sign since the World Trade Center attack that the Bush Administration is returning to immigration reform.For over two years now, the White House has been virtually silent about how to relieve an immigration mess that has been building for nearly 20 years. Because the 9/11 terrorists...
     
 
Reggie Rivers: Ridge at last redeems himself
      Posted by logician2u
On 12/12/2003 10:59:31 PM PST with 15 comments


The Denver Post ^ | December 12, 2003 | Reggie Rivers
Article Published: Friday, December 12, 2003 reggie riversRidge at last redeems himselfBy Reggie Rivers I never expected to like Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Ever since the position was created, I've been suspicious about the organization's mission. The advent of color-coded terror alerts and duct-tape-and-plastic panics just cemented my view that Ridge and his staff were part of a shock-and-awe campaign designed to scare us into surrendering our rights. But this week, I was pleasantly surprised to read that Ridge thought that millions of illegal immigrants in the United States should be granted some form of legal status short...
     
 
***CAPTION THIS***Director Tom Ridge at Miami Event to Float Illegal Alien "Trial Balloon"
      Posted by AmericanInTokyo
On 12/12/2003 6:59:11 AM PST with 37 comments


Miami Herald ^ | 12 December 2003 | AmericanInTokyo
     
 
RIDGE IS WRONG
      Posted by DoctorMichael
On 12/12/2003 6:32:45 AM PST with 91 comments


Washington Times ^ | 12/12/03 | Editors
Ridge is wrong We disagree with Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge's remarks on Wednesday supporting the legalization of millions of illegal immigrants now living in the United States. Speaking at a town hall meeting in Miami Wednesday, Mr. Ridge declared that the government "had to come to grips with the presence of 8 million to 12 million illegals" now in the country, in order "to afford them some kind of legal status some way." While Mr. Ridge said he was not advocating the granting of citizenship to this group, history suggests that legalization is often a first step in that...
     
 
White House verifies immigration review
      Posted by yonif
On 12/12/2003 12:05:21 AM PST with 350 comments


The Washington Times ^ | December 12, 2003 | Jerry Seper
    The White House yesterday said a new immigration review is under way that could lead to amnesty for millions of illegal aliens living and working in the United States.     Confirmation of the review came during a White House briefing, just two days after Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said during a town hall meeting in Miami that the government had to "afford some kind of legal status" to the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens in the country.     "We've taken steps to improve border security -- significant steps, I might add; have made great progress there. We've taken steps...
     
 
Bizarro GOP, Ridge Offer Pass to Illegal Aliens
      Posted by yonif
On 12/11/2003 9:15:42 PM PST with 124 comments


Rush Limbaugh ^ | December 11, 2003
Tom Ridge, who is charged with securing our borders as the Secretary of Homeland Security, took it upon himself recently to solve our huge illegal alien problem - by suggesting we "legalize" eight-to- twelve million lawbreakers. Did Ridge not take an oath to defend the laws of the United States? Why are immigration laws, the lax enforcement of which was key the 9/11 attacks, somehow meaningless? Then there's this from the Arizona Republic: "U.S. and Mexican officials are discussing an agreement that would allow millions of Mexicans to go home and still collect U.S. Social Security checks." Does this not...
     
 
Social Security for Mexicans closer to reality (Millions of immigrants to collect benefits)
      Posted by VU4G10
On 12/11/2003 7:55:33 PM PST with 175 comments


www.wnd.com ^ | December 11, 2003 | WorldNetDaily
The prospect of millions of Mexicans receiving United States Social Security checks is moving closer to reality. The Gannett News Service reports U.S. and Mexican officials are discussing a "totalization" agreement that would transfer hundreds of millions of dollars in payments south of the border. The plan would allow documented and undocumented immigrants to return home but still collect U.S. benefits. WorldNetDaily reported the idea to merge both countries' Social Security systems was pushed late last year by Mexican President Vincente Fox as payback from President George W. Bush for failing to secure major new immigration reforms beneficial to Mexico...
     
 
Ridge rapped for immigration views
      Posted by kattracks
On 12/10/2003 10:30:42 PM PST with 44 comments


Washington Times ^ | 12/11/03 | Jerry Seper
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge's suggestion that 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens now in the United States be "legalized" drew harsh criticism yesterday from congressional and other opponents of such legalization.     Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican and chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, said Mr. Ridge should resign if he is unable or unwilling to enforce immigration laws enacted by Congress.     "Mr. Ridge ought to read the laws he is charged with trying to enforce," Mr. Tancredo said in a telephone interview. "We have laws on the books that call for him to find and deport these...
     
 
Tom Ridge's Immigration Remarks Draw Fire
      Posted by VU4G10
On 12/11/2003 9:08:56 AM PST with 89 comments


newsmax.com ^ | Thursday, Dec. 11, 2003 | NewsMax.com Wires
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge's expression of support for giving legal status to immigrants drew congressional criticism Wednesday but heartened advocates. At a town hall meeting in Miami, Ridge said the country needs to "come to grips" with an estimated 8 million to 12 million illegal immigrants and "determine how you can legalize their presence." He also said during a visit to Florida on Tuesday that the immigrants should not be rewarded citizenship. Asa Hutchinson, undersecretary for border and transportation security, said Wednesday in Miami that Ridge's comments simply reflected the debate in Congress on immigration. "Secretary Ridge addressed it...
     
 
AMNESTY CRISIS: Fight Tom Ridge's new plan
      Posted by Klickitat
On 12/10/2003 1:28:20 PM PST with 192 comments


Numbers USA ^ | 12-10-03 | Roy Beck
The country needs your faxes and phone calls immediately and steadily over the next few days. Tom Ridge, the head of the new U.S. Department of Homeland Security, yesterday advocated legalizing (giving amnesty) to 8-12 million illegal aliens. Click here to read the story titled: "Homeland security chief endorses legalizing undocumented immigrants." "Click for article" This creates an immediate crisis that must be met with massive outcry -- like the outcry in August of 2001 that stopped Pres. Bush's July proposal for a massive amnesty for some 3.5 million illegal aliens from Mexico. The most important thing is shoot this...
     
 
Homeland security chief endorses legalizing undocumented immigrants
      Posted by patriotUSA
On 12/10/2003 10:33:06 AM PST with 49 comments


South Florida Sun-Sentinel | Posted December 10 2003 | Tanya Weinberg
Homeland security chief endorses legalizing undocumented immigrantsHomeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge told a Miami audience Tuesday that the country should legalize millions of undocumented immigrants living in the country. "The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals, afford them some kind of legal status some way, but also as a country decide what our immigration policy is and then enforce it," Ridge said at a town hall meeting at Miami-Dade Community College. The forum was the second in a national series organized by the nonprofit Council...
     
 
Ridge: Give illegal entrants 'status'
      Posted by Klickitat
On 12/10/2003 5:18:44 AM PST with 106 comments


The Miami Herald ^ | MICHAEL VASQUEZ
Ridge: Give illegal entrants 'status' A top Bush administration official suggests at a town hall meeting in Miami that illegal immigrants should be granted limited legal status. BY MICHAEL VASQUEZ mrvasquez@herald.com Department of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said Tuesday that he believes the vast majority of illegal immigrants in the United States are not a threat to national security and should be given ``some kind of legal status.'' Ridge's comments came during a town hall meeting at Miami Dade College in response to a question from the audience about whether offering amnesty to illegal immigrants might make them easier...
     
 
Analysis: Driver's license issue still a test for the governor
      Posted by NormsRevenge
On 12/04/2003 8:45:06 AM PST with 17 comments


Sac Bee ^ | 12/4/03 | Amy Chance
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was up early and on the radio Wednesday morning to promote his economic-recovery plan, but the interview wasn't sticking to the script. Radio host Bill Handel, who averages about 1.5 million listeners a week on his top-rated Los Angeles talk show on KFI (640 AM), also wanted to ask about driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. Schwarzenegger campaigned for repeal of a license measure signed by then-Gov. Gray Davis, and Wednesday he signed a measure to do so -- his first action on a bill as governor. But why, Handel wanted to know, was Schwarzenegger willing to discuss...
     
 
Plan assists Mexican trade
      Posted by JohnHuang2
On 12/03/2003 10:48:38 PM PST with 24 comments


Washington Times ^ | Thursday, December 4, 2003 | By Thom J. Rose
The Washington Timeswww.washingtontimes.com Plan assists Mexican tradeBy Thom J. RoseUNITED PRESS INTERNATIONALPublished December 4, 2003          Department of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge will announce today a system to allow commercial trucks to clear customs at the Mexican border in as little as 5 seconds by using preregistered ID cards.     A similar system has had success regulating trucks from Canada, but the less-secure southern border could pose challenges.     "We actually have gone through an enrollment program of enrolling drivers, carriers and the companies that import goods," U.S. Customs official Jayson Aherm said Tuesday at an industry homeland security conference. Drivers...
     
 
Give border parity to Mexican citizens
      Posted by Holly_P
On 12/03/2003 1:13:26 PM PST with 35 comments


San Antonio-Express-News ^ | 12/03/03 | Editorial
Thousands of times a day, Mexicans who legally cross the border into the United States face greater restrictions than Canadians who cross the northern U.S. border. It makes no sense that Canadians can enter the United States, go anywhere they choose and stay six months, while Mexican nationals, even those who own property in the United States, can only stay 72 hours and cannot travel farther than 25 miles from the border. This disparity breeds anger and suspicion and must be eliminated. Toward that end, U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, and U.S. Reps. Solomon Ortiz, D-Corpus Christi, and Ruben Hinojosa,...
     
 
Bush, GOP 'Naive' for Pushing Bill to Help Illegal Aliens,(DREAM Act)
      Posted by thefamous
On 10/17/2003 3:48:56 PM PDT with 15 comments


CNSNews.com ^ | 10/17/03 | CNSNews.com
Bush, GOP 'Naive' for Pushing Bill to Help Illegal Aliens, Critic Alleges (CNSNews.com) - Illegal immigration opponents Thursday said President Bush and congressional Republicans risk losing their core voter base in national elections next year by embracing measures that would grant amnesty to illegal aliens. The remarks came as the Senate Judiciary Committee held a markup session on a bill that would allow in-state collegiate tuition and residency for illegal immigrants. "The Bush administration wants to push for some form of amnesty but hasn't come to terms with how to do that without offending its political base," David Ray, spokesman...
     
 
Repeal of Illegal Alien Driver’s License Law Represents a Change in Tactics, Not a Change of Heart
      Posted by VU4G10
On 11/25/2003 2:16:04 PM PST with 20 comments


fairus.org ^ | November 25, 2003 | Press Releases
Action by the California legislature to repeal the illegal alien driver’s license law it passed last summer is a tactical move designed to thwart a voter initiative to bar illegal aliens from obtaining licenses, charges the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). The repeal of SB 60 by the Senate and the anticipated repeal by the Assembly is a clear effort to stop the voters from having their say, rather than an effort to stop illegal aliens from acquiring California driver’s licenses. Senator Gil Cedillo, the primary sponsor of SB 60, has vowed to reintroduce the legislation with some cosmetic...
     
Net immigration rises by millions
      Posted by .cnI redruM
On 11/26/2003 7:18:03 AM PST with 39 comments


THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 26 Nov 03 | By Jerry Seper
Net immigration to the United States rose dramatically by 1.4 million in each of the past two years, about half a million of whom were listed as illegal aliens, a report said yesterday. The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) said if the numbers remain unchanged, this decade will mark the most massive wave of immigration in American history, with 45 million immigrants — about 14 percent of the country's total projected population — forecast to be residing in the United States by 2010. The extensive FAIR report also said the figures show that immigration totals are unrelated to the...
     
 
Natives in U.S., Britain getting restless on immigration
      Posted by Kepitalizm
On 11/23/2003 11:55:58 PM PST with 20 comments


Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 18 November 2003 | John O'Sullivan
LONDON -- Immigration in Britain, as in the United States, is a sort of subterranean political issue. Opinion polls regularly show that the great majority of Brits and Americans favor lower levels of immigration and stricter rules on entry, but the elites (Republicans and Democrats, Labor and Tories, Big Business and Big Labor) in both countries support higher levels and laxer rules -- and some even favor "open borders." This produces an unstable hegemony of the elites. Legal immigration is now almost a million new arrivals a year and the many illegal immigrants are deported only if they have committed...
     
 
U.S. To Abandon Anti-Muslim Visitor Program
      Posted by knak
On 11/22/2003 5:06:28 PM PST with 22 comments


islam online ^ | 11/21/03
WASHINGTON, November 22 (IslamOnline.net) – In a move welcomed by America's largest Islamic civil liberties group, the U.S. administration plans to abandon a visitor-registration program that primarily targets Muslim males from predominantly Muslim countries and drew complaints from civil liberties groups, a leading U.S. newspaper reported Friday, November 21. The decision of the Department of Homeland Security came after thousands had protested the unexpected arrest of law-abiding people, who were ordered later to be deported and after many department officials have deemed the effort ineffective, said The Washington Post. The approach was implemented late last year by Attorney General John...
     
 
Arizona Amnesty. Rewarding illegal aliens.
      Posted by .cnI redruM
On 11/21/2003 6:22:03 AM PST with 14 comments


NRO ^ | November 21, 2003, 8:54 a.m. | By Mark Krikorian
The border state of Arizona recently completed an amnesty that allowed violators to get right with the law. Those who did not take advantage of it will now face extra enforcement officers using new computer systems. But it wasn't for illegal aliens — it was a tax amnesty. It allowed people who hadn't paid their taxes to make arrangements by November 1 to pay up without penalty. The state has collected more than $45 million, with a total of $73 million expected by May, nearly triple what had been predicted. Too bad the state's congressional delegation didn't check with the...
     
 
R-Arizona Lawmakers (The Three Stooges) Rally Guest-Worker Supporters
      Posted by VU4G10
On 11/20/2003 10:43:30 AM PST with 45 comments


azcentral.com ^ | Nov. 20, 2003 | SERGIO BUSTOS
WASHINGTON - Three Arizona lawmakers brought several local community organizers to Capitol Hill on Wednesday to show that widespread grass-roots support exists for their bill to create a nationwide guest-worker program that would include legalizing scores of undocumented immigrants. The groups, mostly representing Hispanic immigrants, hailed from as far away as California and as nearby as the District of Columbia. They included organizations such as the Bangladeshi American Federation here; the Society of Honduran Residents in Oakland.; and the Dallas-based Mexican Professionals Abroad. In Arizona, the Tucson Chamber of Commerce and others have endorsed the bill. "These are the people...
     
 
Driver's license repeal stalled; Democrats snub a Schwarzenegger bid for a compromise
      Posted by StoneColdGOP
On 11/20/2003 12:54:18 PM PST with 52 comments


Sacramento Bee ^ | Published November 19, 2003 | Jim Sanders and Ed Fletcher -- Bee Staff Writers
State lawmakers signaled Tuesday that they won't move quickly to fulfill Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's campaign pledge to repeal a measure granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. Convening in a special session, Assembly Democrats blocked efforts to immediately repeal the new law, and Senate President Pro Tem John Burton labeled as "racist" the push to kill SB 60. Meanwhile, Schwarzenegger offered the possibility of an eventual compromise, saying he would consider allowing licenses for illegal immigrants who undergo background checks -- but only after SB 60 is overturned. "We want to get rid of it, because it has been done the...
     
 
A foreign-born president?
      Posted by kattracks
On 11/12/2003 9:41:11 PM PST with 16 comments


Washington Times ^ | 11/13/03 | Terry Eastland
"Only those born in the U.S.A. may apply." That, in effect, is what the Constitution says to naturalized citizens who might think about running for president. They may not do so. "No Person," states Article II, Section 1, "except a natural born Citizen ... shall be eligible to the Office of President."     The natural-born citizen requirement is one of those parts of the Constitution that has operated silently over the years, without litigation. But now comes Sen. Orrin Hatch, Utah Republican, to say we should amend the Constitution to take down that "do not apply" sign.     Mr. Hatch acknowledges what...
     
 
FRN Columnists' Corner - "On Illegal Immigration" By Pat Baska
      Posted by Bob J
On 11/07/2003 9:49:54 AM PST with 24 comments


Free Republic Network ^ | 11-7-03 | Pat Baska
Columnists' Corner "On Illegal Immigration" By Pat Baska The Bush administration is spending millions of our tax dollars to train border patrol and customs personnel and build border outposts in Iraq, while our own borders, particularly the southern, remain wide open two years after our worst terrorist attack. An estimated 1,000 illegals pour into this country daily via just the Organ Pipe National Monument. According to U.S. Park Ranger Bo Stone "We have caught people from China, Pakistan, and Yemen coming through. If 1,000 illegal immigrants can walk through the desert here, so can 1,000 terrorists." Even without the...
     
 
Attack of the Open Border Elites (Ingraham)
      Posted by MNLDS
On 10/28/2003 9:12:14 PM PST with 56 comments


www.LauraIngraham.com ^ | October 28, 2003 | Laura Ingraham
THE ATTACK OF THE OPEN BORDER ELITES You are scanning the newspaper headlines one day and one in particular catches your eye: “Rep. Pelosi Says Arrests of Bank Robbers ’Terrorizing’” You read on. SAN FRANCISCO -- US House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi complained that in many instances, police and other law enforcement officers "terrorize" the bank robbers and other criminals they are attempting to arrest. "Breaking into people's homes, pointing guns at them, yelling 'Freeze!' – this is all very traumatic for people who are just trying to feed their families. It is true that technically these people are breaking...
     
 
DREAM ACT PASSES SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
      Posted by Klickitat
On 10/23/2003 2:30:05 PM PDT with 69 comments


Numbers USA email ^ | 10-23-03 | Anne Manetas
---------------------------------------- DREAM ACT PASSES SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE ---------------------------------------- This afternoon the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 16-3 to pass S. 1545, Senator Hatch's DREAM Act to grant in-state college tuition rates and amnesty to illegal aliens under the age of 21 who have been physically present in the country for five years and are in 7th grade or above. The only three Senators on the committee who voted AGAINST the DREAM Act and represented the majority of Americans who oppose amnesty and other rewards for illegal aliens were: Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) Only...
     
 
DREAM Act is a Dream Come True for Illegal Aliens
      Posted by sheltonmac
On 10/23/2003 5:04:52 AM PDT with 51 comments


Ever Vigilant ^ | 10/23/2003 | Jeff Adams
The stupid party is at it again! The Senate Judiciary Committee is working on a bill that will allow illegal aliens to pay in-state tuition for college and permit them a level of residency, thus legitimizing their criminal behavior of flagrantly violating our immigration laws. The Republicans are in the lead on this latest effort to destroy our culture and our sovereign integrity. While 85% of Americans view immigration as a serious problem, the only thing that has prevented President George Bush from granting a general amnesty for illegal aliens was the backlash from 9-11. However, the political elites continue...
     
 
U.S. congressman sees immigrant worker bill by end of year
      Posted by Brian S
On 10/22/2003 3:41:14 PM PDT with 28 comments


Associated Press ^ | 10-22-03
Wednesday, October 22, 2003 ---------------------------------------- (10-22) 14:25 PDT MEXICO CITY (AP) -- A bipartisan delegation of U.S. congressmen visiting Mexico Wednesday said they expect quick passage -- perhaps as soon as December -- of a bill that would help some immigrant agricultural workers gain legal residency. However, the delegation, which is to meet with Mexican President Vicente Fox Friday, said broader immigration reform is still far off. "The first (migration) legislation that could get adopted in Congress is the legislation dealing with agricultural workers, and that seems to be moving well," said Rep. Sam Farr, a Democrat from California. "Hopefully,...
     
 
Immigrants may be key to Bush victory
      Posted by JustPiper
On 10/18/2003 12:29:25 PM PDT with 87 comments


Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 10-18-03 | MORTON KONDRACKE
If the 2004 election is another squeaker, President Bush could lose it because he failed to follow through on his promise to help undocumented Hispanic immigrants gain legal status. Polls indicate that Latino voters regard immigration as a litmus test issue -- the way African Americans do civil rights, one expert said -- and Bush shows signs of losing once-promising support. Meantime, Democratic presidential candidates and members of Congress -- with some assistance from Republicans -- are moving to seize the immigration issue that Bush so far has dropped. Bush can recoup -- and some GOP strategists say he must...
     
 
Bush, GOP 'Naive' for Pushing Bill to Help Illegal Aliens, Critic Alleges
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 10/17/2003 8:53:04 AM PDT with 48 comments


CNSNews.com ^ | October 17th, 2003 | Steve Brown
Bush, GOP 'Naive' for Pushing Bill to Help Illegal Aliens, Critic Alleges By Steve Brown CNSNews.com Staff Writer October 17, 2003 (CNSNews.com) - Illegal immigration opponents Thursday said President Bush and congressional Republicans risk losing their core voter base in national elections next year by embracing measures that would grant amnesty to illegal aliens. The remarks came as the Senate Judiciary Committee held a markup session on a bill that would allow in-state collegiate tuition and residency for illegal immigrants. "The Bush administration wants to push for some form of amnesty but hasn't come to terms with how to do...
     
 
Major Provisions of the Three Main Amnesty Proposals in the 108th Congress
      Posted by Klickitat
On 10/16/2003 6:26:44 PM PDT with 47 comments


Numbers USA ^ | 10-15-03 | Rosemary Jenks
Major Provisions of the Three Main Amnesty Proposals in the 108th Congress For more information or explanation, contact Rosemary Jenks at info@numbersusa.com.   H.R. 3142 Rep. Cannon and Rep. Berman View all cosponsorsS. 1645 Sen. Craig and Sen. Kennedy View all cosponsors H.R. 2899 Rep. Kolbe and Rep. Flake View all cosponsorsS.1461 Sen. McCain View all cosponsors S. 1387 Sen. Cornyn View all cosponsors Border security provisions None None None Interior enforcement provisions None Requires establishment of a toll-free, electronic employment eligibility verification system, but only employers of H-4A and H-4B workers have to use it to verify the status...
     
 
Congress Looks to Grant Legal Status to Immigrants; expect Judiciary to approve the bill this week
      Posted by Brian S
On 10/13/2003 10:50:14 AM PDT with 38 comments


New York Times ^ | 10-13-03
By STEVEN GREENHOUSE Published: October 13, 2003 Eighteen-year-old Yuliana Huicochea moved to the United States at age 4, but now faces deportation because immigration officials stopped her on a school trip to a science fair. Ms. Huicochea's troubles began last year when she and other members of her high school science team traveled from Phoenix to Buffalo to enter their 15-foot solar-powered boat in the fair and decided to take a side trip to the Canadian side of Niagara Falls. Immigration officials stopped Ms. Huicochea and three teammates and told them they faced deportation because they were illegal immigrants. "I'm...
     
 
The Illegal Alien Amnesty of Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas) - S.1387 - full text
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 10/12/2003 5:18:18 PM PDT with 38 comments


October 12th, 2003 | Sabertooth
In July of this year, Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas) introduced his Border Security and Immigration Reform Act of 2003 (full text below), for the purpose of establishing new regulations on foreign-born "guest workers" in the Untied States. Several sections of Cornyn's legislation warrant a bit of scrutiny... SEC. 218A. GUEST WORKER PROGRAMS. (i) ABSOLUTION FOR PAST ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR- An alien who participates in a guest worker program shall be absolved of all liability for illegal behavior, as such behavior pertains to the immigration status of the alien, that occurred before the alien's participation in the guest worker program. SEC. 218B....
     
 
R-Cornyn bill would help immigrants, allows millions to work legally in U.S.
      Posted by VU4G10
On 10/10/2003 9:18:29 AM PDT with 75 comments


www.valleystar.com ^ | NOEL ESPINOZA
A new guest-worker program sponsored by U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, would allow millions of undocumented immigrants to work legally in the United States. Introduced in the U.S. Senate as the Border Security and Immigration Reform Act of 2003, it would allow seasonal workers to stay in the country for up to nine consecutive months and non-seasonal workers to stay up to a full year – not to exceed 36 months during the life of the program. The proposed law would encourage undocumented immigrants to apply for guest-worker status with their employers.In an interview this week, Cornyn said the program...
     
 
SENATE POISED TO GRANT ILLEGAL ALIEN STUDENT AMNESTY
      Posted by wilyrascal
On 10/06/2003 6:23:36 PM PDT with 68 comments


F.A.I.R. ^ | 10/6/03
SENATE POISED TO GRANT ILLEGAL ALIEN STUDENT AMNESTY We Can Stop It With Your Help We need you to call members of the Senate Judiciary Committee to stop passage of S. 1545, the DREAM Act. The bill will be voted on in committee the week of the 13th. Call as many people on the list below as possible. If you are a constituent of any of them, send them a free faxed message through our web site. New Developments: Yesterday, October 2, the full Senate Judiciary Committee came close to approving S. 1545, which would repeal the current federal law...
     
 
Hatch Backs Schwarzenegger, Says Foreign-Born Americans Should Run For White House
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 10/06/2003 10:37:31 AM PDT with 57 comments


GOPUSA ^ | October 6th, 2003 | Jimmy Moore
WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- Battered California recall candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger has received some unexpected support from Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch, who said the Republican gubernatorial candidate should be forgiven for his past indiscretions and even suggested that he should have the opportunity to run for president someday. Hatch said the sexual misconduct allegations that have been thrown at Schwarzenegger by his political enemies since late last week happened so long ago that they are simply not relevant to the kind of governor he will be for the people of California in 2003. "We have to look at people who...
     
Army says illegal-immigrant soldier can stay
      Posted by bicycle thug
On 10/03/2003 11:13:14 PM PDT with 33 comments


seattletimes.nwsource.com ^ | Friday, October 03, 2003 - Page updated at 12:00 A.M. | By Florangela Davila
In a widely watched immigration case, the Army yesterday said it will assist Pvt. Juan Escalante, of Seattle, an illegal immigrant and veteran of the Iraq conflict, in securing legal status to remain in the United States. Richard Olson, spokesman at Fort Stewart, Ga., called Escalante "a good soldier and a value to the Army." "The intent of the command is to resolve this to the benefit of all parties concerned," Olson said. An executive order signed by President Bush last year allows noncitizen soldiers who have served honorably during Operation Enduring Freedom to apply for U.S. citizenship. That order...
     
 
Bush aides anger GOP lawmakers on consular IDs
      Posted by Brian S
On 10/02/2003 7:02:21 AM PDT with 77 comments


Washington Times ^ | 10-02-03
Bush administration officials yesterday angered lawmakers by refusing to take a position on illegal aliens obtaining U.S. driver's licenses and avoiding questions about its decision to recognize Mexican identification cards. Officials testifying before the House Select Committee on Homeland Security said they are reviewing what documentation is secure and reliable, but evaded direct questions on the matricula consular cards now accepted by California and New Mexico to obtain driver's licenses. Critics say the cards issued by the Mexican Embassy are easily falsified and used by illegal aliens to establish residency. Stewart Verdery, Homeland Security assistant secretary, was asked directly whether...
     
 
Solving the Immigration Impasse (Arnold redefines Amnesty)
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 09/24/2003 11:43:11 AM PDT with 117 comments


JoinArnold.com - Schwarzenegger Campaign Website ^ | August, 2003 | Arnold Schwarzenegger
Solving the Immigration Impasse Summary:Immigration has been the engine of California's economic prosperity and the richness of our culture. Almost 9 million Californians were born in a foreign country and nearly 40% of all households in our state speak a second language in addition to English. We have a proud tradition of being one of the most ethnically diverse places in the world. But it is important to ensure that new immigrants enter California the right way, so that they can get on a path toward fully participating, and contributing, to the California economy. And we should make sure...
     
 
Vasquez slams efforts to aid illegal immigrants
      Posted by jokar
On 09/26/2003 11:26:35 AM PDT with 63 comments


The Idaho Statesman ^ | September 25,2003 | Sandra Forester
CALDWELL — Canyon County Commissioner Robert Vasquez on Wednesday issued a searing condemnation of efforts by Idaho´s congressional delegation to support legislation to help illegal immigrants. “I am accusing Larry Craig, Mike Crapo, Butch Otter and Mike Simpson of collaborating with the unarmed enemy invading America,” Vasquez wrote in a news release issued on his official commissioner stationery. “All for a vote to stay in office.” Craig and Crapo, Idaho´s U.S. senators, declined comment. Vasquez opposes proposed legislation that would give undocumented workers the opportunity to earn permanent legal status. Craig and Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., are co-sponsoring such a...
     
 
Stealth amnesty for illegal aliens?
      Posted by JustPiper
On 09/19/2003 1:30:15 AM PDT with 36 comments


WND ^ | 9-19-03 | Jon Dougherty
Arizona lawmakers criticized for bill meant to reduce border crossings Members of Arizona's congressional delegation are under fire from an immigration-reform group for sponsoring legislation critics say is little more than stealth amnesty for illegal aliens. Republican Reps. Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake, as well as Sen. John McCain, have co-sponsored H.R. 2899, the Border Security and Immigration Improvement Act, which they claim is really a "guest worker program." Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Ariz. According to Kolbe, who introduced the bill July 25, it is designed to "halt illegal immigration, make it easier for foreign workers to apply for visas and...
     
 
Treasury keeps rules allowing acceptance of Mexican ID; victory for immigration and Latino groups
      Posted by Brian S
On 09/18/2003 9:21:33 AM PDT with 64 comments


Associated Press ^ | 09-18-03
SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press Writer Thursday, September 18, 2003 ---------------------------------------- (09-18) 09:14 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Treasury Department said Monday it will leave in place rules that allow financial institutions to accept the Mexican identification card, called matricula consular, which often are used by undocumented immigrants to open bank accounts. The decision is considered a victory for immigration and Latino groups who have protested efforts to prohibit use of the identification card as anti-immigrant and anti-Hispanic. Financial institutions, too, had opposed any change in the rule. The card is issued by Mexico's consulates in the United States and shows...
     
 
Mass Deportation of Muslim Illegal Aliens ruled out
      Posted by jonatron
On 04/04/2003 6:35:55 AM PST with 167 comments


WORLD TRIBUNE ^ | 2/18/03
Tuesday, February 18, 2003 The Bush administration has rejected the prospect of mass deportations of Muslim illegal aliens. The administration plans to relay this message to American Muslim leaders amid the current nationwide alert for an Al Qaida attack. Hundreds of Muslims have been detained as illegal aliens as part of a crackdown by federal law enforcement authorities, Middle East Newsline reported. On Tuesday, FBI Director Robert Mueller will meet American Muslim leaders to discuss federal measures against Al Qaida threats. Muslim groups have filed a class action suit against the government, charging that the Immigration and Naturalization Service has...
     
 
FBI Director Stresses Need For Secure Mexico Border
      Posted by chance33_98
On 09/09/2003 10:04:19 AM PDT with 22 comments


ksat ^
FBI Director Stresses Need For Secure Mexico Border Mueller Attends Border Terrorism Conference In S.A. POSTED: 10:17 AM CDT September 9, 2003 SAN ANTONIO -- FBI director Robert Mueller said Monday in San Antonio that the United States faces a difficult and long-lasting balancing act on its southwest border with Mexico: letting beneficial trade and immigrants pass through while filtering out potential terror threats. Mueller (pictured, left) used this week's second anniversary of the 9-11 attacks to trumpet successes in thwarting America's enemies and to reiterate the continuing risks posed by al-Qaida and others. "Al-Qaida keeps adapting," he told...
     
 
A Constitutional Anachronism: Immigrants should be eligible for the Presidency
      Posted by Destro
On 09/06/2003 2:53:44 PM PDT with 78 comments


nytimes.com ^ | September 6, 2003 | nytimes.com
A Constitutional Anachronism America is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants have shaped our politics and diplomacy, run our government and defended us in wartime — more than 700 recipients of the Medal of Honor have been immigrants. Yet no matter how great their contributions or sacrifices, immigrants remain ineligible for the nation's highest office because of a provision in the Constitution that bars naturalized American citizens from becoming president. The provision has long since outlived its usefulness, if it had any in the first place. Orrin Hatch, a Senate Republican, and Vic Snyder, a House Democrat, are pushing amendments to...
     
 
Cornyn proposes plan for immigrant 'guest workers' (Amnesty)
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 07/11/2003 8:38:16 AM PDT with 14 comments


Dallas Ft. Worth Star-Telegram ^ | July 11th, 2003 | Dave Montgomery
Cornyn proposes plan for immigrant 'guest workers' By Dave Montgomery Star-Telegram Washington Bureau John Cornyn WASHINGTON - U.S. Sen. John Cornyn launched his first major legislative initiative Thursday, calling for a guest worker program that would enable millions of undocumented immigrants to legally live and work in the United States for up to three years.The bill puts the first-term Texas Republican in the center of politically volatile efforts to overhaul the nation's immigration laws. The issue has strained relations between the Bush administration and Mexican President Vicente Fox, who is pressing the U.S. government to grant legal status to the...
     
 
Orrin Hatch addresses immigrants(Illegal aliens)
      Posted by 4.1O dana super trac pak
On 09/05/2003 5:51:28 PM PDT with 97 comments


Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 9/52003 | Christopher Smith
WASHINGTON--Speaking at a rally of young undocumented immigrants who are urging Congress to allow them to attend public colleges at in-state tuition prices, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said the country will "benefit enormously" by opening college classes to the children of people who entered the U.S. illegaly."We can choose either to keep these talented young people underground or we can choose to give them a chance to contribute to the United States," Hatch said at a Capitol Hill news conference Thursday to urge support of his "DREAM Act," the Development, Relief, and Education For Alien Minors Act.The Bill sponsored by...
     
 
Powell meets Mexican envoy, hopeful on immigration reform; "We may get results slowly but surely"
      Posted by Brian S
On 09/05/2003 7:09:40 PM PDT with 127 comments


AP ^ | 09-05-03
GEORGE GEDDA, Associated Press Writer Friday, September 5, 2003 ---------------------------------------- (09-05) 18:42 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- Secretary of State Colin Powell said Friday after a meeting with Mexico's foreign minister that he believes progress may be possible in resolving long-standing differences with Mexico on immigration issues. Powell said that at November meetings with Mexican officials, the United States plans to offer ideas that "will demonstrate to the Mexican people and to Americans that we are serious about resolving immigration issues." Powell's meeting with Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez also covered the administration proposal for a new U.N. Security Council...
     

45 posted on 12/15/2003 11:12:59 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Bttt
46 posted on 12/15/2003 11:37:22 PM PST by lainde
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To: Sabertooth
By hook or crook, Bush will get some form of bill through Congress that will allow these millions to vote for him. The Constitution is unclear as to voter eligibility or citizenship because these matters were left up to the states. By partial amnesty, the ideal plan would be to make full amnesty dependent on Bush being reelected. Politicians with a large constituency of illegals in their district or state can be expected to follow in lock step because it will further their interest in getting reelected.
47 posted on 12/15/2003 11:47:03 PM PST by meenie (Remember the Alamo! Alamo! One more time. Alamo!!!)
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To: kattracks
I prefer we give a blanket party.
48 posted on 12/15/2003 11:57:00 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Southack
"President Bush just expanded the workplace verification bill so that employers like me don't get faked by the forged documents of illegals." One lil problema with that Southack! The workplace verification is voluntary!

You may verify, but unless you put some teeth in that thing, the majority will not!

And Bush knows it!

49 posted on 12/15/2003 11:57:21 PM PST by navyblue
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To: kattracks
Maybe they'll just switch the more popular "sleeping bag" amnesty.
50 posted on 12/16/2003 12:03:05 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: kattracks
Why don't we just annex Mexico and, along with Puerto Rico, make it the 51st and 52nd state?

I'm actually being serious. Mexico is such a mess, even California under Grayout Davis was ran better.

And it's got more oil than ANWR we can use. They already send us nearly as much oil as Saudi Arabia and we could get twice that or more, and natural gas, and save on the shipping costs since the Mexican government runs the industry so badly it's totally corrupt and inefficient.
51 posted on 12/16/2003 12:06:43 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: Kuksool
It's a bad idea. We've been down this road before and were stabbed in the back.

Reagan gave amnesty in the mid-eighties on the implied deal that once amnesty was granted the INS would STOP illegal immigration.

Fool me once...
52 posted on 12/16/2003 12:08:24 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: cyborg
After Klintoon every president looks good, except Jimmy Carter.

Millard Fillmore still looks bad! lol

53 posted on 12/16/2003 12:10:01 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: cyborg
I sent Bush a letter telling him how proud I am of the war and the troops capture of Saddam. But he was gonna lose my vote if he granted blanket amnesty. I sent it last night and this came out today...LOL. Did my letter get read or what? I said he is blowing off his base left and right..CFR..Medicare..and the amnesty crap was gonna be the third strike.
54 posted on 12/16/2003 12:42:09 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour In May 2004...Be There)
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To: kattracks
But the president reiterated a stance he has enunciated often: "This administration is firmly against blanket amnesty." spell out his preferred policy. A handful of options are floating around Capitol Hill, including one co-sponsored by several Republicans who propose giving legal residency to illegal immigrants through work.

No, it certainly won't be called a blanket amnesty by the administration, but that will be its effect.

55 posted on 12/16/2003 12:54:26 AM PST by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Spiff
I wonder what euphemism they'll try this time.
56 posted on 12/16/2003 1:26:11 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: All
Here's the un-noticed zinger:

12 million immigrants illegally in the United States

12,000,000? I thought it was 1.2 million...

57 posted on 12/16/2003 1:28:56 AM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: cyborg
President Bush yesterday ruled out granting "blanket amnesty" to as many as 12 million immigrants illegally in the United States

Perhaps he got my irate letter. lol.

58 posted on 12/16/2003 1:36:20 AM PST by Indie (Have you bought more ammo today??? My rights are guaranteed by Smith and Wesson. How about yours?)
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To: Indie
In all seriousness, we all know this is double speak. Results no matter what you call it:
Open border remains, illegals allowed to take jobs and drive and get welfare and spread third world diseases like Hepatitis, they continue to take and consume, while simultaneously calling for "breeding the gringo out of existence," etc ad infinitum. The Republic dies with the next attack.
59 posted on 12/16/2003 1:46:27 AM PST by Indie (Have you bought more ammo today??? My rights are guaranteed by Smith and Wesson. How about yours?)
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