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Woman charged with leaving her newborn in toilet
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | January 5th, 2004 | Frank Kummer

Posted on 01/05/2004 6:16:05 AM PST by 2banana

Woman charged with leaving her newborn in toilet

Police say the Mount Ephraim mother intended to dispose of the baby, who is in critical condition.

By Frank Kummer

Inquirer Staff Writer

MOUNT EPHRAIM - A borough woman who gave birth to a girl in a toilet Saturday has been charged with attempted murder, authorities say, for planning to leave the baby to die and then dispose of the body.

But the baby's head was out of the water, and she was breathing when the woman's boyfriend rescued her - minutes before doctors say the premature infant would have perished.

Denise Marie Winner, 42, of Mount Ephraim Avenue, a mother of two other children, is also charged with endangering the welfare of a child, Camden County Prosecutor Vincent P. Sarubbi said.

Winner, a former pizza shop worker, was held on $200,000 bail. Hospitalized yesterday, she was expected to be transferred to the Camden County jail today. She is barred from having contact with the infant.

Authorities say Winner was 71/2 months pregnant and had hid her pregnancy from her 52-year-old live-in boyfriend.

"This was a beautiful, young girl," Sarubbi said of the baby. "It is inconceivable how someone could do this... . These cases are among the most difficult our office investigates."

The baby - whom authorities had no name for as of last night - was in critical condition in an incubator at an undisclosed hospital.

The baby weighed 3 pounds, 2 ounces when it arrived at the hospital. Doctors say her chances of survival are good and that her temperature had recovered to normal after dipping to 82 degrees.

Sarubbi said he could not disclose Winner's motive.

Winner and her boyfriend shared the top floor of a two-story stucco building in an alley off the Black Horse Pike.

Sometime after 3 p.m. Saturday, Winner sent her boyfriend to a drugstore for sanitary napkins and aspirin, authorities said. While he was gone, she "went to the bathroom, sat on the toilet, and gave birth" about 3:42 p.m, Sarubbi said.

Winner's boyfriend returned to hear "a faint crying sound" in the bathroom, investigators said. Sensing something was wrong, he entered the bathroom and spotted a bath mat on top of the closed toilet seat.

He removed the mat, lifted the lid, and discovered the baby, authorities said.

He pulled the infant from the water, wrapped her in a towel and shirt, and called 911 at 4:17 p.m. In all, the newborn was in the toilet for at least 30 minutes, officials said.

Authorities did not know yesterday whether the boyfriend was the baby's father.

"In all likelihood, he saved the baby," Sarubbi said of Winner's boyfriend, who was not named. "Because of the coldness of the bowl and the water temperature, this child could have expired."

The baby would have died if she had remained in the toilet another 30 minutes or so, Sarubbi said doctors told him.

Winner was charged with attempted murder because investigators believe she planned to conceal the infant's birth and death, possibly planning to hide the body in plastic bags found nearby.

"It was her intention to eventually dispose of the fetus," Sarubbi said. "It was her intention to somehow remove the child from the toilet."

A man who answered the door at Winner's apartment last night identified himself as the boyfriend.

"There's no story here," he said. "It's an everyday thing."

With that he insisted that reporters leave.

Danny Rizzi, manager of Carollo's Family Restaurant & Pizza across Kings Highway from Winner's apartment, said Winner agreed to leave her job there after continued personal problems and showing up for work smelling of alcohol.

She worked there for about a year and was generally a nice person, quiet and a good worker, he said.

But Winner sensed she was about to be fired about 21/2 months ago and agreed to resign, Rizzi said.

"She was very sad, I have to say," Rizzi said of Winner's personality. "You would look at her and could tell there was something wrong. But she was such a good worker, real easygoing."

Sarubbi said Winner did not have a history of mental illness. He said he did not know of Winner's current relationship with her other children, who do not live with her, or whether she had been married.

His investigation continues, and his office was awaiting a toxicology report.

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Contact staff writer Frank Kummer at 856-779-3220 or fkummer@phillynews.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: abandon; abortion; babies; baby; mothers; sicksociety
A borough woman who gave birth to a girl in a toilet Saturday has been charged with attempted murder, authorities say, for planning to leave the baby to die and then dispose of the body.

But the baby's head was out of the water, and she was breathing when the woman's boyfriend rescued her

He removed the mat, lifted the lid, and discovered the baby, authorities said.

Nothing to see here, just an attempted post birth abortion. It is not as if this was any less cruel than a partial birth abortion...

1 posted on 01/05/2004 6:16:06 AM PST by 2banana
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2 posted on 01/05/2004 6:16:57 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: 2banana
Rope. Now.
3 posted on 01/05/2004 6:22:28 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 2banana


Neverminding the barbarity of the rest of the story, I'm always amazed at how disgustingly fat someone must be to be able to "hide" a pregnancy.
4 posted on 01/05/2004 6:24:23 AM PST by Eris
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To: Eris
I worked in a neonatal intensive care unit for 10 years. This is not rare; nor is it even uncommon. Babies are born prematurely in the toilet with some frequency, then brought to the NICU by EMTs. And those hugely fat women who can hide their pregnancies are common, too. Oh, the stories I could tell.........
5 posted on 01/05/2004 6:30:28 AM PST by DC native
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To: Eris
You don't have to be fat to hide a pregnancy. I've had friends who are thin and far along in their pregnancy's and no one would ever know by just looking at them.
6 posted on 01/05/2004 6:30:56 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: 2banana
"It is inconceivable how someone could do this..."

But if she had gone to a doctor and had it's brains sucked out it would have been perfectly legal.

7 posted on 01/05/2004 6:42:26 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: 2banana
"It was her intention to eventually dispose of the fetus," Sarubbi said.

I think the trend is that every person is a fetus until they are 18 years old. It is strange to see the term fetus used for a born baby

8 posted on 01/05/2004 6:48:34 AM PST by rface (Ashland, Missouri - self proclaimed expert on "Liberal Group Think")
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To: 2banana
"This was a beautiful, young girl," Sarubbi said of the baby. "It is inconceivable how someone could do this... . These cases are among the most difficult our office investigates."

Yet at 7-1/2 months pregnant, had this woman been inside an abortionist's office or clinic, to "quietly dispose" of this "beautiful, young girl" by partial birth abortion or some such "acceptable" method, would anyone have noticed, even so much as batted an eyelash?!

9 posted on 01/05/2004 6:49:39 AM PST by nfldgirl
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To: mhking
Just Dang candidate
10 posted on 01/05/2004 6:52:33 AM PST by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy)
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To: 2banana
Perhaps retrieving the child would have been harmful to the woman's health! Hey, she could have strained a back muscle or something.

Nothing to see here, folks. Move along, move along.
11 posted on 01/05/2004 6:55:51 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: 2banana
This lady is obviously considering running for the Democratic Presidential nomination...
12 posted on 01/05/2004 7:01:29 AM PST by Always Right
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To: 2banana
Another sicko moron.
13 posted on 01/05/2004 7:18:34 AM PST by freekitty
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To: 2banana
This "Winner" apparently was unaware of this.
14 posted on 01/05/2004 7:22:39 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: 17th Miss Regt
They will get her off with an insanity deal.
15 posted on 01/05/2004 7:53:03 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: DC native
You're right; it's actually fairly common. Here is another one from Pennsyvlania that did the same thing: http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/981748/posts
16 posted on 01/05/2004 7:54:57 AM PST by Born Conservative ("Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names" - John F. Kennedy)
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To: 2banana
A man who answered the door at Winner's apartment last night identified himself as the boyfriend.

"There's no story here," he said. "It's an everyday thing."

If this happens every day, remind me not to move into that apartment complex.

17 posted on 01/05/2004 8:08:09 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I have a photo of myself with Mussilini. He's upside down of course.)
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