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Say It Ain't So, Dubya
boblonsberry.com ^ | 1/7/04 | Bob Lonsberrry

Posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:39 AM PST by shortstop

In politics, it’s good to be up for grabs. And it’s miserable to be a sure thing.

As President Bush will prove today. In an expected announcement of sweeping amnesty and Social Security benefits for illegal Mexican aliens, the president will kick conservatives in the teeth in order to woo Latino voters.

It’s clear proof that the adage “Dance with the one what brung ya” doesn’t apply in the GOP.

In the GOP, conservatives exist to donate money and vote a straight ticket, and then be ignored. At least in this Administration and by this Congress. Time after time, the principles of those who put George W. Bush in office have been compromised and rejected. And now, on an issue that could forever alter the nature of the United States, conservatives are being betrayed by their president.

And, you could argue, so is the country.

What are the details? We won’t learn until today. But it is expected that a new “adjusted work status” will be announced for most of the eight million Mexicans currently in this country illegally. Also, lifetime Social Security benefits will be guaranteed illegal Mexican aliens – even after they leave the United States – if they pay Social Security tax for as little as 18 months.

Lawbreakers will be rewarded, and the American taxpayer will become the primary funder of the Mexican retirement system.

And billions of dollars of wages earned by illegal aliens will continue to be sent back to Mexico – bleeding our prosperity and continuing as the second largest cash source for the Mexican economy.

Why is this happening?

Why is the Republican president selling out everything you would think his party stands for?

Because the Latino vote is in play.

Simply put, the large number of Latinos in America have not yet clearly identified with a political party. And the Republicans want them. The Democratic Party owns the black vote lock, stock and barrel and the Republican Party wants to do the same with the Latino vote.

Democrats hope to draw Latino voters by convincing them – as they have African-Americans – that they are an underprivileged minority which needs the Democratic Party to avenge it against the larger American culture.

Republicans hope to draw Latino voters by convincing them – as they have American moderates and conservatives – that they are part of the larger American culture.

Democrats want people identified as minorities; Republicans want people identified as the mainstream.

Apparently President Bush believes that the Republican Party can win the heart of Latinos by rewarding millions of illegal Mexican aliens and by creating a welfare entitlement for people who aren’t even Americans.

Specifically, by caving in to a demand by Mexican President Vicente Fox – the author of the policy President Bush will announce today.

Latinos are powerful because they are up for grabs. Conservatives are powerless because they are a sure thing.

Honestly, if conservatives get ticked off at George W. Bush, what are they going to do? Who are they going to vote for?

Howard Dean? Hillary Clinton?

No way.

After being walked on and ignored, conservatives will dutifully come out this fall to support not just President Bush but the Republican Congress. Why?

Because we want judges and cabinet secretaries and protections for guns and free enterprise and property rights – things we didn’t really get this go round but hope to get in the next.

Conservatives are patsies to the Republican Party, just like blacks are patsies to the Democratic Party. Both get stroked at election time, and both get some very pretty speeches, but when it comes time to make laws and keep promises, both groups are roundly ignored by their parties.

Critics of this policy – as comments from the White House spokesman already indicate – are going to be labeled xenophobes and bigots. There will be syrupy quotes about this being a nation of immigrants and how new people coming to America make it a better nation.

Well, it used to be that way. When our foreign forefathers came to America to be Americans.

But those days have passed. Overwhelmingly, Mexicans come to America to be Mexicans. The melting pot is broken. The language is not learned, the culture is not adopted, the customs and values are not acquired.

And in a couple of generations the Latin Quarter is going to refer to that part of America west of Louisiana and south of Oregon and Idaho. There is a broad-based Latinization of the United States underway, a cultural conquest that the Mexican army could not win but the American government is willing to surrender.

We are growing our own Quebec, and it speaks Spanish. Latino immigrants, and specifically Mexicans, are wonderful people. Yet their success in this country – and the continued integrity of this country – are dependant on obeying the law and acquiring the culture and values of the American Constitution and heritage.

And that is not done by rewarding those whose first act on American soil was an immigration crime.

Instead of granting amnesty and rewarding lawbreakers, we should make a guest-worker program that lets Mexican immigrants walk honorably through the front door instead of illegally through the back door. We have the jobs, they want the work, let us bring order to putting the two together.

And then secure the borders, with troops if need be, so that illegal immigration stops.

Reward those who do right, not those who do wrong. Quicker, more efficient legal immigration is right. Amnesty is wrong.

And this fool idea of opening the empty Social Security coffers to Mexican nationals in Mexico is insane.

But if insanity buys votes, in an election year it becomes law.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; aliens; bush; buyingvotes; camejo; cheney; dubya; edwards; election; gwb; illegalmexicans; invasion; kerry; lonsberry; mexico; nader; pandering; plunderamericans; theft; thenannystate; thewelfarestate; welfarestate
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"Conservatives are patsies to the Republican Party, just like blacks are patsies to the Democratic Party." This is the third straight issue where the President has supported a position opposite of what my mainstream conservative view is: the first being CFR, and most recently the drug benefit bill which will probably cost me several thousand dollars a year more than I pay now by 2006.
1 posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:40 AM PST by shortstop
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To: shortstop; newgeezer
Most of the Mexicans in CR Ia are better Americans than a lot of the legal's who make a living sitting on a porch smoking crack.
3 posted on 01/07/2004 6:10:39 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: shortstop
The Illegals Solution: Credit to Sabertooth.


Dealing with Illegals doesn't have to be the enormous burden on resources many imagine, not would it have to infringe on civil liberties.

I've posted this on a few threads, but I keep getting requests:

This problem is no harder to solve than wanting to solve it. We can get rid of Illegals rather effectively, by rolling up our sleeves and getting the Illegals to get rid of themselves.

The first order of business, of course, is to enforce existing laws on the books against Illegals and those who employ them. Also, politicians must be held to account when they pander otherwise.

Then...

1: Eliminate all mention of Section 245(i), even if expired, from the US Immigration and Naturalization Code. No more Amnesty, ever.


2: Get legislation through Congress that would enable States to deny goodies to Illegals, a la Prop #187.


3: Outlaw Mexican matricula consular IDs, and kick banks accepting them out of the FDIC. Legal depositors will withdraw from recalcitrant banks.


4: Beef up Border Security with manpower, resources, and a Volunteer Reserve, if necessary. No troops, and no messing with posse comitatus, this should be a civilian effort.


5: Beef up the immigration courts and set deportation hearings for two weeks after apprehension, with no bail.


6: Run sting operations at day laborer sites.


7: Establish two-way communication between the IRS and Border Security, and start apprehending and deporting Illegals using false SS numbers (no, the current overhyped voluntary program doesn't count).


8: Seize the assets of businesses knowingly hiring Illegals under the RICO Act, as they are ongoing criminal enterprises. Prosecute executives who knowingly hire Illegals.


9: Compile biometric information on Illegals, and declare that they will be permanently ineligible for immigration and citizenship.


10: If the United States declares that the above proposals against Illegals will be diligently enforced after a certain date, many Illegals will leave beforehand, and a relatively small number of well-publicized cases of enforcement throughout the Lower 48 will result in millions of Illegals deporting themselves.


11: End the busting of immigration caps by limiting family reunification to spouses and dependent children, and counting them against the caps when they are brought in. Require all future immigrants to declare their future intent to bring in family upon arrival. This way, families can immigrate in a controlled, orderly fashion without the current deceptions being used against the American public. We must have truth in immigration.


12: Outlaw anchor babies, and give the option to the Illegal parent of taking the child with them upon deportation, or putting them up for adoption.


13: Outlaw bilingual ballots, and resume the English-speaking requirements for citizenship.


14: Establish English skills as a prerequisite for future immigrants. Let's start admitting folks who will hit the ground running toward assimilation.


15: Shut off new immigration to nations that offer dual citizenship. Disqualify current immigrants from those nations from future American citizenship.


16: Make Mexico and Central America our cheap import sources of choice with tariffs on manufacturing from other sources, especially China.


17: In return, Mexico must open up to American investment by allowing the sale of real estate to us and guaranteeing property our rights. Getting Mexico to fix its economy is crucial.


18: Establish a guest worker program where an initial bond is posted by the Illegal and his employer, say $500 each, with more withheld from the Illegal's earning, as security for his departure from the US by the specified date. Guest worker visas must be applied for in the workers' countries of origin, and participants are only eligible to be employed by their sponsoring employer. Violation of these terms will render the worker ineligible for any future visas or residence in the US. Any guest worker program can only come after anti-Illegal measures are in place. Handshake promises of future diligence will not be trusted from any politician of either party, including President Bush.
The list above is by no means comprehensive, and can be adopted piecemeal or in a single package. That said, incrementalism is probably going to be the way to go, especially politically.

These measures would provide a little carrot and lots of stick for Illegals already here to get themselves out. Some of them will need to be tested in the courts, which is another reason to adopt them piecemeal, so that an injunction against omnibus legislation can't stall the whole effort.

We ought to be looking initially at easy, politically safe legislation, like the new accounting for family reunification, Border Security/IRS cooperation, English speaking citizenship requirements, and a few others. Our politicians are a trembling, timid bunch, and need to gain a little self-confidence before they'll tackle more difficult issues.

Note a few things that aren't on my list: troops or walls on the border. I think they are a futile diversion from cost effective solutions. The best possible wall at the border is to let foreigners know that we respect our sovereignty, and they had best do the same.

Note that their are no house to house searches.

Note also that I don't call for an immigration moratorium, though others may. I think their position is within the respectable mainstream of a dialogue about immigration, and while it's possible that I might change my mind later, but I am not currently persuaded that an outright moratorium is or will be necessary.

The main problem is multimillion-strong mass of Illegals, and the secondary problem is how we currently select legal immigrants for rapid assimilation into American society. I believe my proposals adequately address both situations, but there is certainly room for debate on the back end.

Note also that I have a guest worker program that is actually honest and responsible, and not an Amnesty by another name. My program would ensure that law-abiding foreigners are background-checked before entry, rather than rewarding lawbreaking Illegals after the fact.

All of the above could be adopted while allowing politicians so-inclined to chant the "compassionate conservatism" mantra.

A few final thoughts...

My proposals will cost money and require an expansion of the federal government in certain areas. However, this expense and expansion is all well within the legitimate, Constitutional responsibilities of the federal government. There will be a greater expense initially, as we ramp up to deal with the backlog of Illegals, but a number of my proposals are at least partially self-funding. Also, success in these endeavors will eventually reduce the need for them, and as many Illegals would leave on their own.

In contrast, there would be also be an increased expense and expansion of the government if there is an Amnesty, as checking backgrounds and processing 8 to 12 million Illegals wouldn't be cheap. However, such increases and expansions would only serve to reward the lawlessness of Illegals and the cowardice of politicians, thereby encouraging more of the same in both, unless there were also enforcement proposals like mine in effect for the American Interior.

But, if we strengthened and enforced our laws consistently within our borders, then we don't need the phantom solution of Amnesty anyway.
4 posted on 01/07/2004 6:10:53 AM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: SheLion
I will not vote for Bush or anybody else . Screw 'em .
6 posted on 01/07/2004 6:12:50 AM PST by sushiman
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To: shortstop
The Prez nees to quit listening to his father. This will only help the democrats and hurt the country. GW please wake up.
7 posted on 01/07/2004 6:13:48 AM PST by ohioman
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To: shortstop
And billions of dollars of wages earned by illegal aliens will continue to be sent back to Mexico – bleeding our prosperity

Simply hilarious. Thanks.

8 posted on 01/07/2004 6:13:55 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Few forums are home to as many people who despise our President as FR.)
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To: shortstop
Why is this happening? Why is the Republican president selling out everything you would think his party stands for?

When you have, as we have here in the USA, only two parties, the candidate, in this case President Bush, can do what ever he wants. Because, we conservatives have no one else to vote for without throwing the race to the communist running as demorats.

9 posted on 01/07/2004 6:15:45 AM PST by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: shortstop
How many illegal aliens can dance on the head of the Republican Party?
10 posted on 01/07/2004 6:17:33 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: shortstop
Good article. BTTT
11 posted on 01/07/2004 6:17:36 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: shortstop
I thought the women that called in last few minutes of Rush's show yesterday made a good point about this.

She said that the Republican party treated conservatives the same way the Democrats treat blacks. That is the Republicans need conservative votes to get elected so they throw out a few platitudes around election time to make sure conservatives come out to the polls, but as soon as the election is over conservatives concerns are forgotten untill the next election. A few conservatives are given token positions of power, but any true conservative that strives for power is dismissed as extreme and not supported by the party. And just like Blacks and the Democrat party, the republicans can get away with this because conservatives have nowhere else to turn.
12 posted on 01/07/2004 6:18:16 AM PST by apillar
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
You are exactly right. As a conservative I cant hardly stand to see what Dubya is doing to us. First it was Medicare now it is the illegals. If I didn't want one of those damn hippie's in the White House I would just not vote this year to protest my feelings.
13 posted on 01/07/2004 6:19:14 AM PST by MizzouTigerRepublican (82nd ABN Gulf war vet)
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To: KantianBurke
bump
14 posted on 01/07/2004 6:19:53 AM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: apillar
You are so right.
15 posted on 01/07/2004 6:19:58 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: shortstop
Actually I think President Bush is showing a great deal of courage and leadership. Realistically we have to shut down the black market illegal alien railroads that don't care if they're shipping migrant farm workers or Ossama's best buddy. The best way is to open up the foreign worker system and document those entering the country *legally*.

Also realistically this nation has to start addressing the impending worker shortage as the baby boom generation retires and one way to do that is through immigration reform, because if things are left standing there won't be enough people working to support the retirees expecting their social security and medicare checks. This process begins in 2006 and gets progressively worse in each successive year.

The move is also going to be politically costly for President Bush, but he's doing it anyway because it has to be done.

Of course the US will change with a larger influx of Mexican immigrants, but melting pot has always changed and remade itself when it absorbed large influxes of immigrants, in over 200 years that process has made us nothing but better.

16 posted on 01/07/2004 6:21:10 AM PST by pcx99
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
Exactly. What do you want? Bush and strong defense, or Dean, and a foreign policy subject to French approval?
17 posted on 01/07/2004 6:21:14 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: MizzouTigerRepublican
You are exactly right. As a conservative I cant hardly stand to see what Dubya is doing to us. First it was Medicare now it is the illegals. If I didn't want one of those damn hippie's in the White House I would just not vote this year to protest my feelings.

I live in Texas so my vote is irrelavent (if GWB is in danger of losing TX then he has lost to many other states to matter). So I am thinking of the Constitutional party as my protest.
18 posted on 01/07/2004 6:22:27 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: biblewonk
Most of the Mexicans in CR Ia are better Americans than a lot of the legal's who make a living sitting on a porch smoking crack.

What you say is probably quite true, in many more instances than anyone here would find comfortable. It is troubling, also, that the persons who consider themselves to be conservative, are taken for granted by the Republican party, much as persons of minority status are taken for granted by the Democrat party.

It is almost as if the Republican party believes that they can somehow have it all. But what is happening, is that the conservatives are making inroads on the persons of minority status, however painfully and slowly, and the currents continue to shift, seemingly unnoticed by either major party.

I like George W. Bush. I really do. But on several things, he is well deserving of criticism, and I do hope that the criticism is received on a constructive basis.

19 posted on 01/07/2004 6:22:30 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: apillar
I heard her also...she was right on the money.
20 posted on 01/07/2004 6:22:39 AM PST by Lady Eileen
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