Posted on 01/09/2004 7:24:05 AM PST by RepublicanLady
Sen. Foxx banks on her experience
N.C. Sen. Virginia Foxx By Dwight Sparks - Forsyth County has long dominated the 5th Congressional district. This year, a woman from the mountains is threatening to change that. She is State Sen. Virginia Foxx. The Banner Elk resident has the most formidable political record of all those running. First as a three-term member of the Watauga County school board. Then as president of Mayland Community College. And now a five-term member of the State Senate. Her district encompasses 35 percent of the voting power of the congressional district — a strength that has put her in the cross hairs of some of opponents. She claims the “most experienced” title in the crowded field. “Most of them haven’t even served in an elected office. I have represented a large part of the population already,” she said last week. Forsyth County represents 28 percent of the district, and the congressman has usually been a local resident. Sen. Foxx is not yielding the Forsyth voters. She wants to get her share here, too. “I have found a lot of appeal. I have gotten a lot of positive response in Forsyth County. We have friends in Forsyth. A lot of people have migrated here from the counties surrounding Forsyth, and I can identify with the folks here very well.” She lives in the shadow of Grandfather Mountain. She and her husband operate Grandfather Mountain Nursery on N.C. 105 between Banner Elk and Boone. They got involved in the Christmas tree business early in its explosion in the mountains, even delivering them to customers in this area. “We would pick out the Christmas tree based on the customers specifications, cut it no more than six days before delivery, and if possible, the day of delivery and deliver them to Winston-Salem, Greensboro and Raleigh. People would get their tree baled with their name on it. They trusted us to pick out their tree.” She was elected to the Senate in the 1994 Republican sweep. No Republican had ever won in that district. She has a 10-year voting record for her opponents to scrutinize, and they have. Winston-Salem alderman Vernon Robinson has challenged her conservative credentials based on some of those votes. “I don’t like negative campaigning. I don’t think anybody does. Vernon has attacked me on voting for women and minorities to be on the (UNC) Board of Governors, for goodness sakes. That’s one way he says I’m not a true conservative.” Robinson calls himself the “black Jesse Helms.” Borrowing from that, Foxx said, “I’m the female Jesse Helms in this race.” She says her voting record and experience as a politician can give voters an indication of what kind of congressman she will be. “There are some who think you don’t want people with experience. But you can gain experience without compromising your principles. If anything, I have gained strength in my principles since being there. (Former State Sen.) Betsy Cochrane told me that would happen. If you are a good legislator, you will become stronger in your beliefs. I’m not a waffler. I’m a kind person, but I’m a person who goes to the heart of the matter.” She says the rough-and-tumble General Assembly has prepared her for Congress. “(The General Assembly) is a tough place, there’s no question about it. That’s one of the reasons I think you need some legislative ability before you go to Congress. You need to have a sense of how those systems work.” She is the lone woman in the race, and that can be an asset and a liability, she said. “I’ve been told there are some men who absolutely won’t vote for me because I’m a woman. And there are some people who recognize that to be a woman and to be where I am I’ve had to work very hard. Perhaps I care a little more about people and doing things for people than some other candidates might. “I grew up extraordinarily poor. All I’ve tried to do in my life is the best at whatever task the good Lord has put in front of me. Prior to Richard Burr’s announcement that he was running for the U.S. Senate, I had not given any thought to running for Congress. And the reason I gave it some thought was because people came to me and asked me to run. They said, ‘You’re the most qualified person in the district.’” Born in New York City, she moved to Avery County at age six, back to her mother’s home. “As some people say, I wasn’t born in North Carolina, but I got here as soon as I could.” Her family didn’t have indoor plumbing until she was 14. Her husband, likewise, didn’t have indoor plumbing until he enrolled at the University of North Carolina. “We’ve both been supporting ourselves since 12 years old,” she said. She credits strong high school teachers for steering both of their lives. “In my case, I was the high school janitor my junior and senior years. I was sweeping after school, and there was a teacher who said you need to go to college and you need to marry a man with a college education. I was third in the class, but I had no intention of going to college. I took the SAT at the last possible time you could take it. I enrolled at Lees McRae as a day student. I had no way of paying to stay on campus.” Some of her views: On President George Bush: “I like him because he has backbone. He has strong faith. He focuses on what’s right and good. I don’t think he takes himself too seriously. I don’t agree with him on everything. I don’t think the federal government should be trying to run the school systems, but I understand his motivation. His motivation is to make things better at the local level. I think some good things have come out of No Child Left Behind. Look how North Carolina was lying about its graduation rate. They got by with it. We need a system of checks and balances among the levels of government, and every once in a while the federal government does something that turns out right. Forcing people to live up to those statistics may be the best thing that comes out of it. I just don’t think you should go into the classroom and tell the teacher how to teach.” On the war in Iraq: “I support what the president is doing. I have been astonished and pleased at the high calibre of our military, the young ones especially. We’re just so fortunate to have people willing to put their lives on the line for the principles we believe in.” On the response to the 9/11 attacks: “I’m not privy to all the information, but I have confidence in the president and the people around him. I believe they are doing what they need to be doing. We’ve got to be vigilant that we don’t allow things like the Patriot Act to go to far in terms of stepping on our rights, but we’ve got to do what we can to make this country secure.” On the delicate balance of religion and government: “I see nothing that these people would substitute that would provide the same kind of moral perspective that we’ve had in this country that absolutely has made us the greatest nation in the world. We basically, Christians and Jews, operate out of a system of love for others and a system that says we should do good for others. I don’t see anything wrong with that. The focus is doing positive things for other human beings in our Judeo-Christian heritage. There’s no better system. I don’t dance around it. It’s not intended to offend anyone. Maybe people have gotten a little too sensitive.” On gay marriage: She calls for a constitutional amendment defining marriage as a union between a man and woman. On Vernon Robinson’s criticism: “It doesn’t feel good, but my attitude is ‘this too will pass.’ I frankly don’t think people want that kind of person representing them. You can either have a bomb thrower or a thoughtful, intelligent person. You don’t have to be that way to stand on strong principles. You don’t constantly have to be berating someone else to get your message across. When you’re in Congress, like when you’re in the legislature, you have to get along with other people. No one does anything unilaterally. If you are constantly belittling and criticizing other people, then you are not going to be able to accomplish anything for your district and the people you represent.” She defined three primary roles for a congressman. “One, constituent service. I am known for outstanding constituent service. When people call me at home or write me emails, they get an answer. I’m accessible. Two, being a representative for your area, making sure you do what you can in ways it needs help. Three, standing up for the principles you believe in when there’s major legislation. People have to think about having someone in Washington who will vote right on the big issues but who will be focused on serving the people of the region. I have proven myself over and over to be able to do that.” Foxx served as Mayland Community College president from 1987 to 1994. The college serves Mitchell, Avery and Yancey counties and was faced with an auditing nightmare. “They had fired the first president. The school was in terrible shape. A month before I got their the auditors found the college had classes they should not have run and received over $300,000 in state funds they should not have received. The state told me I had to pay it back. We were forced to revamp. That was 10 percent of the college’s budget at the time. We eliminated a lot of administrative positions, but we came out of it a much stronger institution. My focus was on high quality. I told the people I didn’t want to be the biggest community college in the state, but I did want to be the best. We began some new programs and we eliminated some programs. We went from one of the least respected to one of the most respected.” One of the problems the college faced was adequate child care for its students’ children. With inmate labor and by raising money, a nationally accredited center was constructed to house up to 98 children. The inmates learned masonry at the college and used those skills on the building. “It took us three years to do it, but it saved us half the cost by doing that. And all but $50,000 of the $600,000 it cost in cash was private money I raised.” She and her husband, Tom, have a daughter and two grandchildren. She is a graduate of UNC-Chapel Hill with a degree in English and a masters in sociology. She earned her doctorate in higher education at UNC-Greensboro in 1985. She has taught at Caldwell Community College and Appalachian State University. Former Gov. Jim Martin appointed her deputy secretary of the N.C. Department of Administration. She was endorsed recently by the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List organization. “Many people believe that all women are pro-choice. It is time to end that misconception and elect more women to Congress who will speak out and vote against abortion,” she said. Why should voters consider her? “I’ve got values, I’ve got experience, and I will do in Washington what I have done in Raleigh. I have been a successful businesswoman, a successful educator, successful legislator. I share the values of the people of the 5th district. I work hard and will work hard. I have the commitment to serve others.”
That was in the Courier?? Gee, the most political that pamphlet usually gets is in discussions about Village Council meetings!
I just love how everybody in this race are trying to be the ________ Jesse Helms (multiple choice answer, fill in the blank with your favorite adjective -- it's like Mad Libs). At least you've got about five candidates trying to "out conservative" each other.
Even Jay Helvey is peppering the local Rush Show radio spots with "And now a conservative minute, with Jay Helvey." And he's the carpetbagger liberal by comparison (the northern Jesse Helms?).
I agree about this part. Vernon is launching grenades at people three feet away from him, and that is not smart; it will affect his chances of drawing support in the primary and in Congress if he's elected.
He needs to wise up his campaign strategy. It's not like he's in a two-person race.
Vernon is the man to support.
The question is this: who else?
Virginia Foxx - seems to be willing to make any deal to get what she's after (though I can't quantify that any better - it's a feeling/hunch thing). She's gotta prove to me that she'll only do deals with the GOP as a member of the majority. I always wonder about things like abortion and women's issues with women in politics, too. Most are social libs.
Ed Broyhill - shyster; more 'used car dealer' than businessman; liar (campaign ads call him "considered one of America's leading businessmen" when he bankrupted the one major business he had. BTW - he fails to mention that business in his new resume!). Running on Daddy's name and reputation; not fit for office. Neither his corporate office nor any elected office, that is.
Ed Powell - lousy capaigner; Ex-Department of Motor Vehicles Commissioner and ex-state Representative turned lobbyist. No distinguishing characteristics.
Jay Helvey - a moderate at best; recently moved back to NC, I understand. Annoying fluffy commercials that mean nothing. One positive point: he's not used Helms' name. Negative? I suspect he wouldn't be caught dead doing so.
Nathan Tabor - the "young Jesse Helms" probably will be good, but far too young with zero political experience. Has not answer my littany of questions from a month ago (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-campaign2002/1041062/posts?page=16#16)
Given these options, if I had to vote today, it would have to be Robinson, with Tabor second and Foxx a distant third.
While the words above come from V Foxx in the context of a campaign pitch, I have to admit that there are thing I do like about her:
-- If she is indeed a social conservative as claimed, then that helps a bunch.
-- She DOES have a reputation for getting things done -- not just talking about them.
-- She does represent the district (the WHOLE district) better since she's not from Forsyth county. IMHO, this is still a plus over Ed Powell
-- In the NC Gen Assy, she has had to operate as a minority member, which limited her options. By all accounts, she managed to overcome this and I can't really complain about deals in that kind of environment.
-- I know from radio stints (WSJS) that she's a bit of a budget hawk
I hereby elevate Foxx to #2 on my virtual ballot, with the race (and my actual vite) still up for grabs. Sorry, but Ed Powell doesn't generate any enthusiasm or interest. I believe he gets smothered in this campaign, as there's way too many "names" on the ballot better known than his.
Robinson(who I like the best) stood up for it in the past when it counted. Have any others?
It's based on his unsuccessful 2002 run with the stupid "Ed Powell says; Ed Powell says" ads that really didn't "say" anything of use at all.
Powell lost his primary race to (Party Jumping) Mike Decker 61% to 39%... and there were only 28 precincts involved. Not exactly a ringing endorsement when heading into a hotly contested Congressional race. He's gonna get steamrolled.
Note for the future: I agree completely, BUT don't short-sell the religious activists bit. I'm one of those (but not for Tabor) who worked for Dr. David Weldon, a military doctor who made his first political run in 1994. He also ran for Congress, and also beat up a "well qualified" field of 6 Republicans in Eastern Florida. He had everything against him -- the media, the experience of the other candidates, and the endorsements of others.
All that and he won anyway due specifically to church support. And he's still in the US House today.
Now: why do I think that won't work here? Tabor's age, and the fact that the churches in this area aren't nearly so political as they are in Brevard County, Fl.
Vernon: can't tell you about the whole history -- he's mostly been a county alderman and I can't get all of his returns. As I say, he ran a lousy campaign in a black district for state house last time out, but they were going DEM if he walked on water. Note that I'm not entirely comfortable with him since I get the impression that This Is All About Vernon and this "Next JC Watts" or "Black Jesse Helms" thing. He'd better settle down or that won't wash.
All that notwithstanding, the one who sells her/himself better is the one who wins. Everybody knows Vernon is running -- can't say that about Powell yet.
Are you saying he lied when he said that the WS Journal called him the next Jesse Helms or a "black Jesse Helms"?
Well I just spent $8.95 (thank you very much </sarcasm) to pull this article out of the Winston-Salem Journal Archives:
OFFSIDE: POLITICIAN COMMITTED A FOUL PLAY:[METRO Edition]
Winston - Salem Journal. Winston-Salem, N.C.: Sep 21, 2003. pg. 21 For education and discussion only
Full Text (602 words)
Copyright Media General, Inc. Sep 21, 2003
Irvin is the president of Future Focus 2020. He can be reached at nat.irvin@mba.wfu.edu
"Unlike most politicians, Vernon Robinson will stand up against racial agitators like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton!" -from a campaign flier distributed at a recent East Forsyth High School football game.
Jesse Helms is back! This time he is black. And he has decided to use the venue of local high school football games to spread his brand of the new conservative gospel.
"Every year, many of Forsyth County's high school seniors are denied admission to the colleges of their choice (e.g. UNC Chapel Hill) because they are white," reads the campaign literature of Vernon Robinson, one of nine Republicans who have entered the race to replace U.S. Rep. Richard Burr.
I learned of Vernon's latest campaign foray from a reader whose daughter came home with one of Robinson's campaign fliers. It was an old campaign trick. On one side of the flier, the football fan sees a pictorial description and explanation of hand signals used by officials during the game - illegal motion, offside, holding and personal foul.
At the bottom of the page is the face of the smiling would-be congressman from the 5th District of North Carolina, Vernon Robinson. No message. No harm. No foul.
The real message
But on the other side of the flier is a message reminiscent of the old South, where race is used to scare the white would-be voter into the arms of the conservative Republican fold, lest the white sheep stray come time to vote. The only thing missing was a picture of the Confederate flag.
"As a Congressman, Vernon will work tirelessly to abolish all racial quotas, preferences and set-asides. In fact, it was Vernon's lawsuit that ended the use of taxpayer-financed, blacks only scholarships at North Carolina public universities," proclaims the flier.
There is a certain irony in the fact that Robinson has found it necessary to use the same race-mongering tactics to get elected that Jesse Helms and other white, conservative, racist politicians used to keep blacks from being elected to office. Some progressive voters are likely to be appalled by Robinson's tactics, but it is a strategy that has worked in the past. Whether it will also work for a black Republican remains to be seen.
True to his ideology
Robinson is nobody's fool. He is a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy, and on the national scene, he is known as a conservative's conservative. When appearing in large venues, he strikes a brilliant pose. He can talk the talk and comes across as a thoughtful ideologue, who really believes what he says.
excerpt
Conclusion: He did not lie, you owe me $8.95 and you need to ask the moderator to pull your post.
Not real good -- maybe that's why I wouldn't be a good politician: I'd actually tell everybody what I think, and I'd answer everybody's surveys. I happen to believe people respect that. And hey - we're a friendly enough bunch, but I'd like to know what's behind a guy whose salary I'd be paying (like the case of John Edwards: a man perpetrating an outright fraud for collecting a Senate check to run for President).
I'll put in a word for Helvey, though he'd prolly be #3 on my list. He says he's a conservative, and I've met the guy, and I think he's a decent guy. I've met his campaign staff, and they seem like nice folks as well. Nice as in honest. Is there any proof he's a conservative? No, no track record, although he didn't hesitate to max out to the BushCheney04 campaign (best $2k he's spent yet, IMO). Is there any proof he's a moderate or liberal? No.
Of course, to be safe I'd go with Vernon (first, although sometimes he gets a little RonPaul-ish) or Tabor (second, although he's so . . . "Soy Boy"-ish). There's no question how they would vote in Congress, maybe a little different but both stellar, supporting Christian conservatism.
Third would be Helvey; my impression is that he is sincere, and that he'd be a good congressman to have run statewide some day (gotta keep a good political bench!) if he proved himself in Congress. He told me he hadn't been involved in politics before (maybe not even voted????), but maybe some voters would find that refreshing. I just looked at him and tried to keep a straight face. "Oh, okay Jay." Spend a couple years workin' it in the GOP, let people get to know and trust you, let people see where you stand within the party, and maybe they'll be ready to trust you with a major elective office based on more than a hunch.
I've heard way too many stories about Foxx spinning a different tale depending on who she's talking to, especially on social issues, to trust her further than I could throw her. I'm sure she'd be a decent congresscritter, but take her newfound support for a Marriage Amendment for example. I'd bet that when push came to shove she'd team up with the House moderates against the conservatives to go for a very weak, hollow Marriage Amendment, one that allowed civil unions and goodness knows what else, and then come home and spin it that she worked to get the strongest M.A. possible.
Ed Powell gets along with "everybody".
PS: The hot staunch conservative babes tell me that they think Vernon's a stud-muffin!
In that case, we'll need to set up a special 5th district count for the Freepathon! C'mon y'all, pitch in!
Unfortunately some of them have a short shelf life on FR.
New people continue to sign up here to express their views on who is most qualified to replace Richard Burr.
Unfortunately some of them have a short shelf life on FR.
RepublicanLady: Maybe you can negotiate with TaxRelief to let you contribute the $8.95 to the Freepathon instead, although with a handle like "Republican Lady", you should be good for the "dollar-a-day" club!
PS: For conservatives of good faith, it is proper freep etiquette to request the admin moderator to remove one's false allegation postings when pointed out to you.
That would largely be the various "handles du jour" of the soy team's paid consultants.
:-)
Insofar as liking Vernon or not, I've said in multiple posts that he's currently got my vote for this district until somebody convinces me otherwise: I do not belittle the man, only that last campaign, and I hope to see a different style this time, for if not -- well, he won't survive the primary.
Yes. Perfectly clear.
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