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Why is there a bias against interracial dating?
AJC ^ | 1/10/04 | AJC

Posted on 01/10/2004 7:02:50 PM PST by freedom44

Shaunti Feldhahn, a right-leaning columnist, writes the commentary this week and Diane Glass, a left-leaning columnist, responds

SHAUNTI FELDHAHN for ajc.com

As a kid, I never realized there was a bias against interracial dating -- or that any serious racial bias still existed. Like most kids in the Washington, D.C.-area melting pot, I grew up around everyone from the children of African diplomats to kids who came over on the boats from Cambodia. My classmates spoke every language and lived in everything from luxury lake homes to public housing. Our dinner guests were just as likely to be from Nigeria or India as from Kansas or California.

After graduation, I left home for a summer waitressing job at a Colorado guest ranch, completely unaware that my multi-racial upbringing had been unusual. I learned fast.

Twenty young staffers came to the ranch from all over the country, and we girls put up pictures and frills to make each bunk our own. One evening, I showed another waitress my snapshots. She gestured at a Homecoming picture of me and my best friend with our dates, standing in front of my date's vintage Mercedes.

"And who is this," she asked, "your chauffer?"

"No, silly," I laughed, "he's my date."

"Your date?" She pulled away, appalled that I would go to Homecoming with a black friend. She stood up, walked out of the room and never spoke to me again. From then on, she communicated through other staff members. "Mary, tell Shaunti to fill the syrup bottles."

Word got around quickly. The next morning, the two cooks -- two young men who had been my friends -- started chanting, "once you go black, you never go back" over and over again. I was horrified, and had no idea how to respond. They were merciless the rest of the summer, and I received a ruthless and swift education.

Why is there a bias against interracial dating, especially between blacks and whites? Almost certainly, people with that bias are people who have no close friends of other races. And unfortunately that's still a sizeable population. Once you have spent time with each other, cried on each other's shoulders, worshipped together at church, or played games long into the night at each other's homes, somehow the idea of their daughter dating your son becomes a non-issue.

And that relationship, by the way, is what makes the difference between giving politically-correct lip service to racial diversity and having a real love for one another as people, and a desire for community.

The problem is, there will always be those who choose to wall themselves off from those friendships, whether out of subtle discomfort or hard-core bigotry. But in most cases, no wall is wanted. It's just that someone of another color seems different. And they are different. We all are. A rich mixture of different elements makes us all who we are -- including our race, gender, economic background, faith, beliefs and interests. That's what makes relationships so interesting and worthwhile, including dating relationships. And because racially biased people have never experienced it, they don't understand what a blessing that diversity can be.

Rebuttal Diane Glass AJC columnist

Shaunti gets a gold star for political correctness. I don't think many would disparage her heartfelt experience. But asking "why is there racism" isn't nearly as interesting or provocative as asking what you are going to do in the face of bigotry? We all know racism exists. Knowing something doesn't change it. Doing something does.

After Shaunti faced racism head on, what did she do? Did she shy away from interracial dating as an adult, bite her tongue and shake her head in silent disapproval? Or did she fight bigotry with spirited defiance? Silence and obedience are just as toxic a poison. And the question I'm dying to ask is: Would Shaunti consider marrying a black man? She advocates a stable home where the triple scourge of divorce, atheism and gay marriage endanger children. How would she feel about an interracial marriage fraught with social stigma, family arguments and sarcastic barbs at school? Would she take a stand against racism if her children had to suffer?

I wonder.

I ask because the statistics suggest that many may lament the failings of a racist culture but few want to withstand the approbation when racial boundaries are crossed. Since 1980, interracial marriages have more than doubled but today this still only represents a mere 2 percent of married couples in 2000.

Interracial dating isn't so black and white. Pardon the pun. And yet it is. The Asian population intermixes with any race and this barely raises an eyebrow. Likewise with Hispanics. It's often an issue of black and white relationships. Black men with white women is the most problematic for Americans, even though black men and white women are more than twice as likely to marry than black women and white men.

Resentment and a healthy dose of prejudice are veiled in the tales about the mythic physical endowments of black men. Yet racism isn't only a failing of the white population. Black women often feel betrayed by black men who look outside of their race and choose the arms of an enemy who exemplifies the American ideal. The blond Ivory Girl smile and blue eyes of Tiger Woods' future wife no doubt raised the ire of many who wondered why such a powerful role model to black youth couldn't embrace his own race.

Racism, like the history of marriage, is about power: Who has it, who wants it, how can I get it? People feel betrayed and angry about interracial couples because these couples step across enemy lines. "Can we all just get along?" That's not likely until power among the races is on a level playing field and marriage, or dating, is no longer an act of treason.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: african; asian; black; blacks; caucasian; dating; diversity; intermixed; interracial; marriage; mixed; multiculturalism; pc; white; whites
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To: Thumper1960
Wonder when that train went off the tracks... that 'first time' experience with Justim must have a been a loo-loo.
81 posted on 01/10/2004 10:01:57 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
I'm tempted, but I won't go there. LOL

The poor girl's problems are deeper than a Timberlake fiasco or the realization by many that her "talent" was over-sold.

82 posted on 01/10/2004 10:08:41 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: Thumper1960
Think you're right. I never hear her really talk about her family too much, or is it me??? Oh well...
83 posted on 01/10/2004 10:10:14 PM PST by cyborg
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To: freedom44
> The blond Ivory Girl smile and blue eyes of Tiger Woods' future wife no doubt raised the ire of many who wondered why such a powerful role model to black youth couldn't embrace his own race. <

Shows you how dumb the writer is: Tiger is multi-racial himself, more Thai than black, since Earl (his father) has both American Indian and (I believe) Caucasian blood in his veins.
84 posted on 01/10/2004 10:12:56 PM PST by jaime1959
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To: raybbr
I dated a woman who was half black. We didn't get any grief here in CT or back home in Il when I went to visit the folks. However, we took a trip to Germany and should have seen the stares I got there. I look very German. It was like I was being accused of heresy.

Give Boris a call, maybe he has a few tips for you.

Boris Becker and ex-wife 2001

Angela Ermakova successfully
proved Boris Becker fathered her child.


85 posted on 01/10/2004 10:17:00 PM PST by Major_Risktaker (dididit dadadah dididit)
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To: Sister_T
"With Kobe Bryant, why isn't the history of his "alleged" victim allowed to be considered? Maybe because it destroys the notion that SOME white women are as pure as snow as SOME white men have propped them up to be."

Whoa Sister -- Have you been watching too many Spike Lee movies, or what??

Regarding the original issue addressed at the beginning of this thread, know this much -- tribalism and elitism is NOT exclusive to the US. It has been in existance almost since Adam and Eve, and everywhere since, whether it's North vs, South; East vs. West; OR White vs. Whiter; Black vs. Blacker; Rich vs. Poor...

My own grandmother from Naples on my father's side was appalled at the thought of her son marrying a Sicilian (southern Italian).

86 posted on 01/10/2004 10:19:36 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: cyborg
Bravo. I am married to a Jamaican woman and her take has always been that in Jamaica there are only two kinds of people: Jamaicans and tourists. Jamaicans come in all shades... West Indian, Black, Chinese, German, Jewish, Indian (India), English, Irish, et cetera. However, they are not (---)-Jamaican. They are JAMAICANS, period. She has problems with American Blacks because she says they whine too much (not all, of course)... Her feelings largely reflect my own. Though MOST of my ancestors came from the U.K. (some came on the first boat over, Mayflower; the rest came later, I'm sure), I am a NATIVE American, born and bred for many generations. At the same time, I welcome non-NATIVE Americans of ALL shades and hues to the country we share and love like no other. All I ask is that we all meld together to become ONE PEOPLE. United. Forget the hyphens. Learn what we can from the past then let it go. Honor and uphold our Constitution, fight tooth and nail to ensure that it is upheld as the Supreme law of the land and continues to always GUARANTEE (but not GRANT) our liberties as Americans, native and by-choice.

Tell your parents, Welcome to the United States... and thanks for your post.
87 posted on 01/10/2004 10:20:08 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: dcwusmc
Terrific comments.
88 posted on 01/10/2004 10:23:45 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Jaysun
We have a great time at family gatherings ,You go ,LOL,hugs from here.
89 posted on 01/10/2004 10:25:20 PM PST by fatima (Karen ,Ken,Jim-Go Eagles Go,)
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To: freedom44
I could be perfectly happy with mixed-race grandkids but I can't stomach the thought of having Carrot Top marry my daughter and having grandkids that look like him.

Am I a "hairist"?


90 posted on 01/10/2004 10:26:29 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Tailback
Yes, I live in South Carolina. I have black fellas talking to me all the time about white girls, but when I start talking about black girls they get hot. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
91 posted on 01/10/2004 10:27:44 PM PST by IndependentSouthernDemocrat (RON PAUL 2008)
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To: freedom44
Racial diversity and Homogenizing the gene pool.

How do you do both ?
92 posted on 01/10/2004 10:28:38 PM PST by festus
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To: dcwusmc
My mom is from Trinidad and Tobago. Yeah my mom had those same problems with the whining. I read Dinesh D'Souza's book What's So Great About America and he talks about the chief benefit of being immigrant is that you come in with 'outside enthusiasm'. My parents were together for 35 years. My dad had your attitude which was responsible for my mom staying here. I agree with you about unifying. I wish we could have 9-11 unity all the time.
93 posted on 01/10/2004 10:28:55 PM PST by cyborg
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To: IndependentSouthernDemocrat
IndependentSouthernDemocrat,"I have black fellas talking to me all the time about white girls, but when I start talking about black girls they get hot. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.This thread is not going to live long,Why are the black men hot.
94 posted on 01/10/2004 10:40:27 PM PST by fatima (Karen ,Ken,Jim-Go Eagles Go,)
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To: fatima
They do not like the idea of white men dating black women.
95 posted on 01/10/2004 10:52:27 PM PST by IndependentSouthernDemocrat (RON PAUL 2008)
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To: IndependentSouthernDemocrat
IndependentSouthernDemocrat,Thank you for being so honest and Black men do not like white men dating black women.
96 posted on 01/10/2004 11:00:11 PM PST by fatima (Karen ,Ken,Jim-Go Eagles Go,)
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To: cyborg
shocked that interracial marriage was illegal when she first came to this country 1963

Interracial dating was never illegal anywhere that I ever lived, I don't know where you mother lived.

97 posted on 01/10/2004 11:01:44 PM PST by Eva
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To: fatima
Are you being honest or sarcastic?
98 posted on 01/10/2004 11:04:40 PM PST by IndependentSouthernDemocrat (RON PAUL 2008)
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To: Eva
My mom is from Trinidad and Tobago.
99 posted on 01/10/2004 11:04:44 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
I have some friends from Trinidad, it sounds like a beautiful place, but difficult to make a good living.
100 posted on 01/10/2004 11:09:19 PM PST by Eva
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