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The Real Culprits: Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men
BreakPoint ^ | 14 Jan 04 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 01/14/2004 2:39:04 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

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To: Ancesthntr
Oh, so people who see UFOs are drunk, huh? What if the phenomenon is recorded on video, or seen by many people instead of one?

Or how about four people seeing one from approximately 500 yards?

61 posted on 01/14/2004 8:12:03 PM PST by Houmatt (Kooldawg is a coward.)
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To: Houmatt
New Paltz, NY in 1986

Welcome to the club. 2 miles NW of Sinai, South Dakota at 9:30pm. My car was within 100 yrds of it, and it paced me for about a half-mile, I was 18 yrs old and just getting ready to start college. Big metal wedge (equilateral triangle) like a thick wedge of cheese, three red lights at the corners, pulsing white light in the middle. No, it did not revolve. I was coming home from work, the only thing I was drinking was a 12 oz bottle of Mt. Dew. Raced the last 4 miles home, and showed my Dad what I saw. Spent about a half hour following it, before it suddenly took off.

Coolest part of the whole thing was the 'special' on UFO's they had on CBS about 3 months later, in which this brute was filmed over Belgium. Demon? Yeah, right .....

62 posted on 01/14/2004 8:28:50 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: mrsmith
I keep dreaming that my ex died... She's still here...
63 posted on 01/14/2004 8:29:06 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there is the face of Islam!)
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To: CommandoFrank
Overheard conversation:

"My wife's an Angel."

"You're lucky, mine's still alive..."
64 posted on 01/14/2004 8:35:20 PM PST by null and void (Stand up and be counted or give up and be toe tagged.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
It seems apparent, says Ross, that UFOs, if there are such things, "must be associated with the activities of demons."

My husband introduced me to this theory, and I must say it does make a great deal of sense. He takes it a step further in his belief that there would be no better way to explain the sudden disappearance of a large number of people (the Rapture) than that they had been 'abducted'.

Very interesting read. Will look forward to reading more. Would you ping me please? TIA

65 posted on 01/14/2004 9:21:08 PM PST by kimmie7 ("Cleaning with the kids at home is like shoveling during a snowstorm." -- Phyllis Diller)
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To: Delbert
I posted about my husband's belief in that very thing before seeing your post. ;-)
66 posted on 01/14/2004 9:22:27 PM PST by kimmie7 ("Cleaning with the kids at home is like shoveling during a snowstorm." -- Phyllis Diller)
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To: Mr. Silverback; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; Ghengis; ...
THANKS. MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR POST.

UFO PING LIST PING!
67 posted on 01/14/2004 10:04:42 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I don't believe that ALL craft are 'merely' demons materializing as craft.

I don't believe that ALL "ET's" are demons in engineered bodies or otherwise.

But I do believe that the bulk of the ET races commonly reported on are either demons in some sort of body or ET's in cahoots with satan and demons.

I doubt seriously that all the ET races are that way. There's even a VERY small amount of UFO reports that seem indistinguishable from Biblical angels.
68 posted on 01/14/2004 10:24:17 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: djf
There's far more than that at this point.

Wtih more than 4,000,000 people having UFO/ET contacts of some significant sort . . . even 1% of that would be plenty.
69 posted on 01/14/2004 10:26:00 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: Hodar
Perhaps as part of a millenia long planned hoax . . . part of what the Bible describes as the

GREAT DECEPTION

of the end times.

70 posted on 01/14/2004 10:26:53 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: protest1
The crop circle hoaxers still do not account for the authentic crop circles with 4-5 or so very specific scientific distinctives always NOT present in the hoaxed ones.

The History Channel's program on them was good.
71 posted on 01/14/2004 10:31:21 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: Democratshavenobrains
No, if Wesley was president,

he and Billdo would be having a convention with the . . .

I can't finish it.

72 posted on 01/14/2004 10:32:17 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: VadeRetro
Have wrestled with demons in a variety of ways--my own and those of others . . .

I know several people who have SEEN them optically--at least optically as far as their brain was concerned.
73 posted on 01/14/2004 10:36:59 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: Mr. Silverback
There's nothing wrong with a space goblin that can't be fixed by a 12 guage shotgun.
74 posted on 01/14/2004 10:37:36 PM PST by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: Hodar
I agree with you.
75 posted on 01/14/2004 10:44:52 PM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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To: Houmatt; Mr. Silverback
"For instance, they may be detected by radar but not seen, or they're seen but not detected by radar."

There is plenty of evidence of both occurring at the same time. Very eerie happenings do occur. Air traffic to pilots or weather radar dispatch to police in the field. Hard to dispute their credibility on official transcripts.

76 posted on 01/15/2004 12:41:48 AM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: Houmatt
They are not hoaxers, they are quite open about what they do and even have a web site explaining their methods. But even when they practically stand in front of people and show them how they make the complex geometrical shapes in the crops the response is often ... no it was definitely aliens it's to complicated for humans to do that.

A quote from the web site http://www.circlemakers.org/jim2.html

"As I began to make circles myself, l noted that my own mistakes, or unconscious idiosyncracies, were transformed magically by cerealogists into special accomplishments that no human could possibly duplicate. A standing stalk in a circle of felled wheat, missed by my garden roller as a lawnmower might miss a blade of grass, was seen as a cerealogical miracle. A pictogram, fabricated with the aid of several pints of Guinness and a wood-and-rope stalk stomper, was later alleged, with the most sensitive instruments, to be buzzing with radioactivity. "

77 posted on 01/15/2004 1:39:19 AM PST by protest1
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To: Quix; All
You must read what they said about the transitor!!

http://www.alientel.com/alientel_museum.htm

ABOVE LINK OVERVIEW:
Not long ago, a famous Personal Computer company uncovered an amazing secret... and a world famous computer scientist, the real inventor of windowing and today's PC architectures, an advisor to business, industry, defense department and presidents, found himself in a very strange situation.

Truth be known, he was unable to establish where the Transistor that was discovered by AT&T scientists in 1947 had actually come from. He learned it already existed in an exotic electronic device that AT&T was able to research and duplicate for a top secret US Government / Defense Department "blacked-out project" between 1947 and 1958, a project that involved AT&T, IBM and RCA, the top three technology companies on earth.

And despite the presence of the finest minds of America, from American, German and British research institutes, at Bell Labs, it took AT&T more than 9 years to produce commercially viable applications for these tiny devices patented by them in the names of three Nobel prize winning physicists of enormous stature, John Bardeen, Walter Britain and William Shockley.

Furthermore, he found out other even more advanced technologies existed in 1947 that could simply not be explained in those days. As a researcher committed to ethics in science he was in a quandary: where had the research come from that led to the Transistor discovery - it was no where documented in Bell Labs history?

And so, he decided to create a project to inquire as to what the Truth was. What happened next was of earth shaking consequences.

He and his PC company, American Computer Company, were not sure that what it discovered was actually valid, or just further disinformation program fed him by mysterious intelligence operations. Nonetheless, he and his company decided to raise the question before the Public on the then "newborn" commercial internet: "Had AT&T scientists received alien technology from a visiting species during a mishap wherein one of AT&T's high energy experimental radar had accidentally downed what has since become known as the Roswell Spacecraft that allegedly crashed in 1947? What exactly had caused such great and unexplained leaps in technology with so little personnel hours behind them, at Bell Labs?" read their first Web publication.

After they had published the report (right on their own Home page) as luck would have it: a Brazilian expert on UFOs and Parapsychology, and a renowned Artist, noticed the publication on American Computer Company's website. He posted excited information about it to a number of UFO mailing lists... "This is a legitimate company, and they are openly questioning the origins of the Transistor without any prompting from our community!" read one excited UFO-buff's email to a friend...

In no time at all, little American Computer Company was absolutely flooded with public confirmation inquiries, 60,000 per day... And, it answered honestly: "We don't know, all we know is that the history of the Transistor does not appear to be what the publicity from the pre-deregulation AT&T made it out to be in documentation, and the principle scientists appeared only to know surrface details about how the device worked, relying on an industry mix of science from various research companies to formulate commercial strategies."

And then, the problems began... A mix of government black ops, operatives of special ops, the FBI, and industry antagonists besieged him and the famous little PC company. Unadulterated harassment, terrorism, death threats, assaults, web flaming, bulk spamming, DoS attacks, intrusions, break-ins to their computers and even their offices, business interference and combative behavior continued steadily from 1997 to 2003 until, after enormous damage was done to them, ACC was finally caused to go out of business.

American Computer Company, trampled in the process, is gone. However, it left a legacy behind, one that represents one man, a visionary who was undaunted by competition, yet was not a believer in UFO Conspiracy theories, placing his and his company's integrity before personal gain, and placing his obligation to his country and his fellow Americans before personal wealth. His sacrifice led to further revelations about the question as to whether we are entirely Alone in the Universe. American Computer Company's legacy has changed history for all of us.

We're here to carry on their search for The Truth... Thanks to ACC, we know it's out there, and we have "the Technology", we know how to build it... With your help, we can defeat the powers of darkness that have withheld so much for so long...!

78 posted on 01/15/2004 2:08:58 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Quix
I know several people who have SEEN them optically--at least optically as far as their brain was concerned.

Semantic quibble: optically is with the eyes. Seeing with the brain is more like "neurologically." (Or "pharmacologically," whatever.)

79 posted on 01/15/2004 5:53:21 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Many times, it's a toss up to them as to which it is.

Many times, they see them as though they saw the stop sign, the door in their home etc. in vivid detail as detailed as any other natural seeing.

Many times it's clear they are seeing "in The Spirit."

And, then there's the evangelist whom my aunt knew well--and--given her personality and that of her kids--tested extensively. He had a glass eye. People could blind fold him, hold their hand over his good eye--whatever they wished--and he could still read a newspaper or whatever out of his GLASS EYE.

He couldn't answer why God didn't just give him another eye unless it was to show forth HIS Glory.


And, I think HIS fun with us.
80 posted on 01/15/2004 7:59:02 AM PST by Quix (Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
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