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Arizona Prepares For Secession From US
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 1-14004 | Julie Foster

Posted on 01/14/2004 2:59:22 PM PST by riri

An Arizona state legislative committee has approved a resolution calling for the dissolution of the federal government in the event that it abolishes the U.S. Constitution, declares martial law or confiscates firearms -- scenarios some say are not unrealistic. Critics of the resolution, however, call the measure a "total waste of time."

Rep. Karen Johnson, a Mesa Republican and chair of the House Committee on Federal Mandates and States' Rights, authored the resolution which the committee approved 3-2. Only the committee's vice-chair, Republican Rep. Gail Griffin, abstained from voting.

Specifically, House Concurrent Resolution 2034 outlines the origin of the United States, emphasizing the sovereignty of the states and their constitutional right to "establish a new federal government for themselves by following the precedent established by Article VII, Constitution of the United States, in which nine of the existing thirteen states dissolved the existing Union under the Articles of Confederation and automatically superceded the Articles."

It also articulates constitutional violations committed by the federal government as justification for the measure, saying "... the fifty current principals, or signatories, to the [Constitution] have done well in honoring and obeying it, yet the federal agent has, for decades, violated it in both word and spirit. The many violations of the Constitution of the United States by the federal government include disposing of federal property without the approval of Congress, usurping jurisdiction from the states in such matters as abortion and firearms rights and seeking control of public lands within state borders," says the resolution.

By adopting HRC 2034, Arizona states its intention to dissolve the current federal government with the approval of 34 other states and, in essence, start over. Participating states would re-ratify and re-establish the present Constitution "as the charter for the formation of a new federal government, to be followed by the election of a new Congress and President and the reorganization of a new judiciary," in keeping with the original intent of the "founding fathers." Individual members of the military will return to their respective states and report to the governor until a new president is elected.

In addition, each state will assume a prorated portion of the national debt and will own all land within its borders. After the new government is formed, the remaining 15 states will be permitted to join the revised union upon application, as was the case with the original union.

A three-year veteran to the Arizona Legislature, Johnson told the Sierra Times the resolution is "insurance policy." "If the federal government declares martial law or attempts to confiscate guns, the states shouldn't have to put up with that," she said.

Joseph Stumph, well-known author and historian, testified in favor of the resolution at the hearing.

"We're proposing that if things get as bad as they could get, that these states won't allow the federal government to put us into a one-world government," said Stumph, who is publishing a similar proposal in his home state of Utah. "I don't expect we'll get 35 states to sign on. The American people are not educated enough on this yet," he added.

The resolution was introduced Jan. 26, and now needs to be approved by the Arizona House. Should HRC 2034 successfully complete the legislative process, it will appear on the November ballot for voter approval. But one legislator does not think the measure will be taken seriously.

Rep. Bill Brotherton, a Democrat member of Johnson's committee, called efforts to promote the bill a "total waste of time."

"Obviously ... one of the more important issues we have is mental health in this state," Brotherton said mockingly. "I wonder if we are going to have a bill on the grassy knoll next to decide who shot Kennedy."

Johnson said she was asked by several Maricopa County residents to look into preventing the federal government from asserting power not authorized by the federal and state Constitutions. To Johnson, the resolution is a watered down, limited version of the "Ultimatum Resolution," written and promoted by Stump.

Johnson said HRC 2034 was introduced in response to recent actions by the Clinton administration regarding the Grand Canyon. On a recent trip to the landmark, President Clinton declared three new national monuments, threatening the property and livelihood of ranchers in the region.

Fears of martial law and firearm confiscation are mere "conspiracy theories" to some, but in light of the elaborate preparations government made for potential Y2K problems -- including a ready-to-sign executive order giving Clinton the equivalent of dictatorial powers -- "these fears have become real possibilities," according to Johnson.

Johnson also made it clear that the action of possible secession should only take place if the federal government suspends or violates the Constitution without approval from the state.

"There may be times when the nation may be at war, and such steps may need to be taken. But the states should have a backup plan if necessary," she said.

Arizona is not alone in its fears. Johnson noted other legislators in other states are considering taking similar steps.

Despite her current success with HRC 2034, Johnson is not relying solely on non-binding resolutions to ensure state sovereignty. She has been joined by a coalition of six other Arizona state representatives, private ranchers and other states' legislators in a lawsuit filed against the federal government.

The lawsuit is an attempt to reverse creation of the Grand Canyon-Parashant National Monument, which covers more than 1 million acres of land, roughly the same amount as Grand Canyon National Park. The group says national monument status will affect use and access to its private property, which will be surrounded by the federal property.

It also asks the court to find the 1906 Antiquities Act, used to create the Parashant monument, unconstitutional.. The coalition's lawyer claims the president "has taken the act to the point of actually abusing the rights of people in the West."

The act gives presidents emergency authority to protect threatened federal lands or "objects of historic and scientific interest," but lawyer Lana Marcussen said that in using the act for a non-emergency case, the president has gone too far.

Julie Foster is a staff reporter for WorldNetDaily.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: abolish; arizona; constitution; secession; stump
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To: sawyer
It is the Alaska Republic Party. They still have an active political fringe machine.
21 posted on 01/14/2004 4:01:53 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: SouthernFreebird
Maybe the "FOX" will start after them.
22 posted on 01/14/2004 4:01:56 PM PST by caisson71
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To: riri
They could spell supersede better.
23 posted on 01/14/2004 4:03:05 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: eno_
Well, it does seem like the modus operandi for the "everything happens by accident" crowd now doesn't it? I can't remember the whole phrase right now but it goes something like truth usually goes through different phases such as: ridicule, denial, questioning, etc. before eventual acceptance....some folks are just in the early stages of really understanding what's going on and when you don't have a real intellectual argument to counter issues like these the useful idiot has no choice but resort to ridicule.
24 posted on 01/14/2004 4:06:59 PM PST by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: riri
Hey, when did they move the grassy knoll to Arizona?

Actually, with Bush to the point of handing Fox the keys to the Alamo, we may be hearing the drums of secession in Texas soon, too.
25 posted on 01/14/2004 4:10:20 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: Spiff
This is an old story?

No wonder I can't find it at World News Daily.

Makes you wonder why it was posted with today's date.
26 posted on 01/14/2004 4:11:46 PM PST by Columbine
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To: riri
An Arizona state legislative committee has approved a resolution calling for the dissolution of the federal government in the event that it abolishes the U.S. Constitution, declares martial law or confiscates firearms

The government at Washington is a creature of the Constitution.

No Constitution, no government at Washington.

27 posted on 01/14/2004 4:14:48 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: riri
"The American people are not educated enough on this yet," he added."

And never will be as long as the "education" of our children comes from the federal government indoctrination centers.

28 posted on 01/14/2004 4:29:19 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: Land of the Free 04
We all need to insist that our state reps do the same! This is very good news.
29 posted on 01/14/2004 4:32:18 PM PST by jpsb (")
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To: stainlessbanner; Servant of the 9; null and void; viaveritasvita; nicmarlo; Budge; TheBattman
I thought this might be of interest.
30 posted on 01/14/2004 4:37:11 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: sweetliberty
I thought this was a recent article - until I saw the date.

I still think it's a GREAT idea!

31 posted on 01/14/2004 5:05:15 PM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: stainlessbanner; Servant of the 9; null and void; viaveritasvita; nicmarlo; Budge; TheBattman
Never mind. This is an old article.
32 posted on 01/14/2004 5:05:29 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: Budge; sweetliberty
Doh! I thought it was current too. I got linked through a different site and I briefly scanned over it.

Sorry all....

33 posted on 01/14/2004 5:24:50 PM PST by riri
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To: sweetliberty
BTTT.
34 posted on 01/14/2004 6:59:08 PM PST by demlosers
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To: CFW
The original article: Arizona Prepares For Secession From US
35 posted on 01/14/2004 7:05:01 PM PST by demlosers
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To: riri
How nice to hear that the Arizona legislature has the spare time to consider such measures.
36 posted on 01/14/2004 7:07:50 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: PistolPaknMama; stainlessbanner
Last I heard, Mexico was attempting to secede from the US. The President will keep them here by force. </sarcasm>
37 posted on 01/14/2004 7:11:12 PM PST by 4CJ (Dialing 911 doesn't stop a crime - a .45 does.)
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To: Comus
Father Abraham abolished them in 1865.

BINGO!

38 posted on 01/14/2004 7:11:27 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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To: riri
Wait just a doggone minute...we don't have enough troops yet
39 posted on 01/14/2004 7:27:40 PM PST by rangebum
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To: monkeywrench; riri
I thought this wasn't recent because, I think, Gail Griffin is no longer in the legislature, but a County Chair.
40 posted on 01/14/2004 9:21:45 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (What is the point of fighting in Iraq if we surrender to Vicente?)
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