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Pak seeks Al-Qaeda leader among arrested suspects; FBI called in
Hindustantimes and AP ^ | Jan 19,2004 | NA

Posted on 01/19/2004 1:56:22 PM PST by Dog

Pak seeks Al-Qaeda leader among arrested suspects; FBI called in Associated Press Karachi, January 19

Pakistani agents are struggling to determine whether an Al-Qaeda leader is among seven suspected members of the terror group arrested in a weekend raid, and they've called in the FBI to help interrogate them, intelligence officials said on Monday.

Officials said the suspects were two Egyptian and three Afghan men, and two Arab women. They wouldn't identify them further, and there's been no word on whether they were believed to be engaged in an active plot.

They were arrested in a raid on an apartment complex on Sunday, a day after President Gen. Pervez Musharraf renewed Pakistan's vow to fight terrorism. Five grenades, four handguns, ammunition and maps of Pakistan and Afghanistan were seized.

"Photographs of the arrested people have been taken and they are being matched with other pictures of Al-Qaeda suspects," an intelligence official said on condition of anonymity. "We are trying to establish whether any senior Al-Qaeda leader is among these people."

Agents from the US Federal Bureau of Investigation were set to join Pakistani intelligence officers on Monday or Tuesday in interrogating the suspects, the official said.

US Embassy officials were not immediately available for comment.

The Pakistanis had hoped to arrest a leader of a local Islamic militant organization in the raid on Sunday, but he was not there, the official said.


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Could this be Ayman Al-Zawahiri..
1 posted on 01/19/2004 1:56:24 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog Gone; Angelus Errare; Coop; Jacob Kell
Ping!
2 posted on 01/19/2004 1:57:09 PM PST by Dog
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To: seamole; MJY1288; BOBTHENAILER; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Miss Marple
fyi...
3 posted on 01/19/2004 1:58:02 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
That would be too good to be true. Can you imagine a SOTU with a surpise announcement like "We got Al-Zawahiri"?!!!
4 posted on 01/19/2004 2:02:22 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Dog
The Iranians "leaked" that they booted out Zawahiri...supposedly last September, with Muganiyeh too.

They said they were put on a "flight to Turkey" which was boviously unlikely.

Could have been evicted to Pakistan...
5 posted on 01/19/2004 2:02:30 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Does Zawahiri have a wife....the BBC is reporting the women captured are wives.
6 posted on 01/19/2004 2:03:52 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
That's probably too much to hope for, but let's hope anyway.
7 posted on 01/19/2004 2:06:23 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Shermy
Muganiyeh was behind the Beruit barracks bombing....I have a hunch he is in northern Iraq constructing these massive IED's we have seen over the weekend...one took out a Bradley.
8 posted on 01/19/2004 2:06:29 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
Al-Zawahiri is in Iran, by all accounts.

My guess is that this is one of his minions, as they would have already identified him by now. Probably this is the one of the brains behind the recent assassination attempt.
9 posted on 01/19/2004 2:07:29 PM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: Dog
An earlier article said could be Qaeda, but not on FBI's "most wanted" list.
10 posted on 01/19/2004 2:07:55 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Dog
Muganiyeh is Hizballah, if he's caught in Iraq.... Syria will be knee-deep in Shiite.
11 posted on 01/19/2004 2:08:22 PM PST by adam_az
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To: Dog
The following is from Oxblog

http://oxblog.blogspot.com/2004_01_18_oxblog_archive.html

Posted 1:01 PM by Patrick Belton

THERE SOME QUITE INTERESTING things afoot in Pakistan at the moment. Responding to US concern about madressahs, special groups drawn from the security agencies examined the records of madrassas in Faisalabad, paying particular attention to the names of students and staff, connection with other religious organizations, and sources of funding (raids which drew in turn criticism from the Islamist group Jamiat Ahle-Hadith). This comes on the heels of an International Crisis Group report which is highly critical of Gen Musharraf for not having followed through on his promised steps to stem jihadi ideology in the madressahs and bring them under government-approved curricula while making closer examinations of their funding sources. (ICG's Asia director Robert Templer argues in the report that Musharraf is too dependent upon the political support of the religious parties to have been able to move against the religious schools.)

At the same time, raids against Al Qaeda operatives in Karachi have increased in frequency, while in Peshawar similar crackdowns are being attempted against tribesmen harboring suspected Al Qaeda members. Also in Karachi, the operations chief of the Taliban- and Al Qaeda-linked Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (Shamim Ahmed, 25) was arrested today for his role in a bombing last Thursday at the city's Anglican cathedral.

What's really happening there? Stratfor believes that the national government in Islamabad has acquired some new level of support from the sundry tribes, enhancing the government's capability to flush out militant Islamists from tribally-controlled badlands and allowing Musharraf to cooperate with the U.S. while irking a smaller amount of anti-U.S. domestic sentiment through countermilitancy operations prosecuted in middle-class neighborhoods. On the one hand, Al Qaeda seems to be feeling under the gun after the organization posted a bad December - this, according to analysts of the Osama tape released in January. On the other hand, Musharraf also is feeling under the gun, as shown by the obvious penetration by militants of his security apparatus indicated by close knowledge of his movements drawn on in the two recent assassination attempts, while international flows of terrorists into his country continue to be exemplified by foreign-born operatives such as Uyghur separatist Hasan Mahsum and the Chechen-born suicide bomber who attacked Musharraf on Christmas Day. Some argue that precisely by appearing so weak in the face of Islamist opposition and two assassination attempts, Musharraf has gained serious negotiating power with both Washington and New Delhi, neither of which wishes to see him replaced with an Islamist successor. Combined with the possible playing out an end-of-term desire on Vajpayee's part to establish a place for himself in history aided by the current strong position of his popular Bharatiya Janata Party (shored, in turn, by a booming Indian economy), then the potential for amicable progress in Kashmir talks along lines fairly favorable to Pakistan seems increasingly likely, which could weaken Kashmiri radicals and their supporters within the lower levels of the ISI. At the same time, the increasing tempo of crackdowns on Al Qaeda members could indicate that the effect of two assassination attempts perpetrated by Islamists may have been to draw Musharraf more firmly into Washington's orbit, rather than toward the propitiation of his would-be murderers. And that would be good news indeed.

12 posted on 01/19/2004 2:08:40 PM PST by aculeus
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To: Angelus Errare
Could it be SAIF AL-ADEL?

The Afghans with him could be bodyguards.

13 posted on 01/19/2004 2:13:06 PM PST by Dog
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To: Angelus Errare; Shermy; Coop
I found a article with more details...

Here.

The officer said that two of the arrested were Yemenis, and three, including a woman, were Afghans. The official also said an Egyptian couple was among the seven. Information about one of the suspects came from the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the official said, requesting anonymity. He identified the man wanted abroad as Fazal Mohammad Abdullah al-Misri, who is considered an explosives expert capable of making high-powered bombs. "He could be handed over to his home country," he said without saying what that country was.

Who is Fazal Mohammad Abdullah al-Misri?

14 posted on 01/19/2004 3:03:31 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/termohammed.htm
15 posted on 01/19/2004 3:06:55 PM PST by Ex-Dem (-_-)
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To: Ex-Dem; Cap Huff; Dog Gone; cmsgop
I think it's him......we got a biggie.
16 posted on 01/19/2004 3:09:09 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
Is he the biggest fish they've gotten though, is the question. He's not the Egyptian, Yemeni, or Afghan.
17 posted on 01/19/2004 3:10:41 PM PST by Ex-Dem (-_-)
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To: Dog
Right On!
18 posted on 01/19/2004 3:12:48 PM PST by cmsgop ( How Come Vic Tayback Never Won an Oscar ???????????????????????????????)
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To: Ex-Dem
He was the AQ leader for the US Embassies bombed in Africa in 1998.
19 posted on 01/19/2004 3:13:51 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
I'm still holding out hope that by senior AQ leader, they mean Al-Zawahiri.

These guys are Egyptians too. No Afghans are on the FBI's short list.

Ayman Al-Zawahiri
Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah
Muhsin Musa Matwalli Atwah
Ahmed Mohammed Hamed Ali
Mustafa Mohamed Fadhil
Muhammad Atef
Saif Al-Adel
20 posted on 01/19/2004 3:19:00 PM PST by Ex-Dem (-_-)
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To: Ex-Dem; cmsgop; Shermy; Angelus Errare
What if Fazal Mohammad Abdullah was the tipster....look at this from the article.

Adnan and Fauzan, two boys, who were temporarily detained by the law-enforcement personnel at the time of raid, as they wanted to go outside Cassim Complex to join their duties, told this correspondent that the a handcuffed man led the security personnel to the apartment.

What if they were after a bigger fish..

21 posted on 01/19/2004 3:23:11 PM PST by Dog
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To: Ex-Dem
They found a satellite phone and computer with them.
22 posted on 01/19/2004 3:25:52 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
Well, dang. This does sound like a big catch, no matter who it is.
23 posted on 01/19/2004 3:27:42 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog
Those are Big Boy Toys, Good Deal
24 posted on 01/19/2004 3:28:47 PM PST by cmsgop ( How Come Vic Tayback Never Won an Oscar ???????????????????????????????)
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To: Dog Gone
If it is who I think it is....he has a $25 MILLION dollar reward on his head.
25 posted on 01/19/2004 3:29:27 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
I turned him in!
26 posted on 01/19/2004 3:35:15 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
I'm going to surf over to some Pakistani news sites.....morning papers should be coming out.
27 posted on 01/19/2004 3:36:28 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog Gone; Dog
One thought I had would be that it could be Rifa Ahmed Taha, the leader of Gamaa al-Islamiyyah. By all accounts, this raid was launched to catch the Pakistanis who tried to assassinate Musharraf, but it seems they've ended up with folks a little higher up the food chain.

If this guy is an explosives expert, then he was probably the same fellow who's arranged the last two assassination attempts on Musharraf. The presence of the computer, satellite phone, and two Afghans who are likely Taliban bodyguards certainly suggests as much. I don't think that he's al-Zawahiri or al-Adel variety, but my guess is that this is the new al-Qaeda boss in Karachi following the capture of Tawfiq Attash Khallad and probably for the rest of Pakistan as well.
28 posted on 01/19/2004 3:54:30 PM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: Angelus Errare; Dog Gone
Here is another name that I found over in a Pakistani newspaper...

Amir Hussain Abdullah al-Misri ~~~ this is who they are saying was caught.

29 posted on 01/19/2004 3:57:42 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
The common thread here seems to be Abdullah and al-Misri/al-Masri (the Egyptian). Keep in mind that "amir" may be a title here, but right now it looks like at the very least that some Egyptian Islamic Jihad or Gamaa al-Islamiyyah thug is going to be removed from the playing field. It's good news for us, either way.
30 posted on 01/19/2004 4:11:09 PM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: Dog
Here are some details about the arrest from "The Dawn", an English language Pakistani newspaper published in Karachi.:

7 Al Qaeda suspects held

By Arman Sabir

KARACHI, Jan 18: Law enforcement agencies picked up seven people, including two women, in a pre-dawn raid on an apartment in Gulistan-i-Jauhar for their suspected links with Al Qaeda, officials said on Sunday.

"We have recovered five grenades, four TT pistols, a lot of ammunition, maps and other things from their apartment", said an intelligence official on condition of anonymity.

He said two of the men were Egyptian nationals and three were Afghans, while the two Arab women were probably of Egyptian origin. The raid was conducted on an apartment No.528, Block-A, Cassim Complex in Gulistan-i-Jauhar at around 3am, he added.

He said the two women were wives of an Egyptian and an Afghan, who were among five arrested. A visit to the apartment showed that its door was locked and most of the apartments in the residential complex were vacant.

Residents of the complex said that a number of police and rangers mobiles and private vehicles surrounded the complex in the early hours. Some 50-60 officials in police uniforms, rangers, and in civvies, went straight to the top floor flat where a family, who had rented the place some two months back, resided.

A youth, who lived in a downstairs apartment said: "I heard the officials broke open the door and I saw they dragged away five men who were in handcuffs." Another resident said there were two boys of four and five years and an infant in the lap of one of the women, who were whisked away by the raiding party.

The residents claimed that a youth, identified as Jani and resident of a third floor apartment, was also taken away by the officials. However, he was later released. After his release he along with his family left the apartment for an unknown destination.

A watchman of the complex, Munir Ahmed said: "Police, rangers and people in civvies turned up at around 3am and asked me to open the main gate. When I asked for the reason they said they wanted to raid an apartment. When I opened the gate they ordered me to stay in my room, adjacent to the gate."

An auto mechanic whose workshop is situated in the complex said the men residing in the said apartment preferred to stay inside their flat. An estate agent said the apartment was owned by the builder of the complex, and it was rented out through another estate agent, who could not be available at his shop. The police authorities expressed ignorance about the raid and arrest of Al Qaeda suspects.

link

31 posted on 01/19/2004 4:12:37 PM PST by jpthomas
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To: Dog
Could this be Ayman Al-Zawahiri..

My initial thought as well.

32 posted on 01/19/2004 4:15:13 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Angelus Errare
Here is the latest at the Daily Times posted 25 minutes ago at Google.

We were looking for one of the foreigners wanted for terrorist activity outside Pakistan,” Mr Rashid said. The intelligence official identified the suspect as Fazal Mohammad Abdullah al-Misri, who is considered an expert in making high-intensity bombs.

Looks like it is the bomber of the US Embassies in Africa..

33 posted on 01/19/2004 4:18:22 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog; Dog Gone
Amir Hussain Abdullah al-Misri ~~~ this is who they are saying was caught.

This might spoil the party after the Hawkeye-Cauceye.

The computer and sat phone coupled with interrogation knowledge, could ruin al Qaeda and their democRATic enablers, come November.

34 posted on 01/19/2004 4:26:01 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Dog
The Pres. is going to have a grin from ear to ear tomorrow night at the SOTU.
35 posted on 01/19/2004 4:27:01 PM PST by OXENinFLA (I knew I should have gotten beer before I came home.)
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To: Dog
Does he have a $25 mil reward on his butt?
36 posted on 01/19/2004 4:27:38 PM PST by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
The assassination attempts on Musharraf seem to have sparked a real crackdown on the terrorists. They're not just America's enemies anymore.
37 posted on 01/19/2004 4:29:21 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: cibco
Look at the link in post 15....if we are correct.....that is who we caught.
38 posted on 01/19/2004 4:38:31 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
Great news. Anybody see if the lights are on late in the WhiteHouse?
39 posted on 01/19/2004 4:45:13 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Dog
Thanks. The names these clowns have just make me dizzy after awhile...
40 posted on 01/19/2004 4:54:33 PM PST by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: Dog
Muganiyeh was behind the Beruit barracks bombing....I have a hunch he is in northern Iraq

It would be sweet to dispatch or detain that ef'n monster. Hope we have or get the intelligence to do so.

God help me but I love knowing we are capturing and killing these vermin.

Along that line, here's my dream of the ideal 9-11 memorial: Ranks and rows of crystal clear coffins. Start with three thousand, but make the park expandable. As the proper protection of intelligence allows, fill the coffins with the remains of al-Qaeda leaders and jihadis that have been wasted by Americans or their agents. Some coffins might only contain a petri dish, but, with those containing more substantial remains, visitors to the memorial could witness their slow disintegration.

Once a year there could be a ceremony wherein the Mayor of New York City, and representatives of the military and NYPD/FD, open coffins and pound some of the mummies or their bones into dust.

41 posted on 01/19/2004 5:25:18 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Dog
Looks like it is the bomber of the US Embassies in Africa..

Works for me. Whenever the interrogators have thoroughly wrung him out, try him and fry him. I like the idea of a stoning, on the plaza in front of the State Department, by four thousand visitors from Kenya.

42 posted on 01/19/2004 5:37:01 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Dog
this is not Mursi, the master bomber that they feared was in Mexico?
43 posted on 01/19/2004 5:38:34 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Dog Gone
The assassination attempts on Musharraf seem to have sparked a real crackdown on the terrorists. They're not just America's enemies anymore.

Once the ISI gets purged, he may be safer, but not until this seeming crackdown continues in a widespread manner.

44 posted on 01/19/2004 5:59:50 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
If it is,then Benladen is never far away.
45 posted on 01/19/2004 6:50:26 PM PST by dobberkcd
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To: Dog Gone
The assassination attempts on Musharraf seem to have sparked a real crackdown on the terrorists. They're not just America's enemies anymore.

I bet it might be the other way around. The crackdowns started and then the assassination attempts.

The same question can also be asked about S.A. and Libya. Both have seen Al-Qaeda resistance increase.

46 posted on 01/19/2004 6:51:34 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
bump and watch
47 posted on 01/19/2004 7:00:25 PM PST by sarasmom (If I get a fake blue card, does that mean I wont have to pay for health and auto insurance?)
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To: aculeus
[Oxblog]:...Responding to US concern about madressahs, special groups drawn from the security agencies examined the records of madrassas in Faisalabad, paying particular attention to the names of students and staff, connection with other religious organizations, and sources of funding (raids which drew in turn criticism from the Islamist group Jamiat Ahle-Hadith). This comes on the heels of an International Crisis Group report which is highly critical of Gen Musharraf for not having followed through on his promised steps to stem jihadi ideology in the madressahs and bring them under government-approved curricula while making closer examinations of their funding sources...

So according to this blog, the madressahs crackdown began because, the ICG reported a problem, THEN the U.S. reacted, and THEN Musharraf reacted.

I question this.

48 posted on 01/19/2004 7:18:09 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Dog
It's obvious to me why AQ and the Iraqis are not faring better in their campaigns against the West - NO DIVERSITY!! They need someone like Hildebeast to advise them; then, with the moral superiority gained by having women in leading positions, many different races represented and many religions included (inclusive is so powerful, doncha know), they will be able to defeat the vile forces of the free world.

alright, turn off the sarcasm\\ 8^)
49 posted on 01/19/2004 7:52:52 PM PST by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: Allan; pokerbuddy2
Ping.
50 posted on 01/19/2004 9:52:51 PM PST by Mitchell
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