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Purging the Neocons
Sobran Column ^ | 01-06-03 | Sobran, Joseph

Posted on 01/20/2004 9:24:58 AM PST by Theodore R.

Purging the Neocons

January 6, 2004 Did you know that the word neoconservative — often shortened to neocon — is an ethnic slur? Neither did I, but some, er, conservative pundits have set me straight.

David Brooks of the New York Times says of “the people labeled neocons” that “con is short for ‘conservative’ and neo is short for ‘Jewish.’” So when other people call these people “neocons,” you see, they’re really calling them Jews, which for some reason is anti-Semitic.

This must come as a surprise to Irving Kristol, who long ago cheerfully, indeed proudly, accepted the term. Though Jewish himself, he never suggested that you had to be Jewish to be a neocon. His Irish friend Daniel Patrick Moynihan was also called a neocon in those days, as are a number of other notable non-Jews today.

Kristol is still known as “the godfather of neoconservatism” and in a famous bon mot defined a neoconservative as “a liberal who has been mugged by reality.” The neocons were known for a qualified skepticism about the welfare state, though, unlike traditional conservatives, they accepted it in principle. Kristol wanted to ditch a lot of conservative baggage about limited government, the free market, and the U.S. Constitution. Nothing particularly Jewish about all that. (Kristol’s son William, by the way, is also a leading neocon.)

So what’s the problem? Well, the neocons broadly agreed with conservatives about foreign policy. They were anti-Communist and wanted an activist, some would say aggressive, U.S. foreign policy. And a lot of them, many of whom happened to be Jewish, especially wanted the United States to fight Israel’s enemies. In the last few years, neocon has become synonymous with these particular neocons, though it’s perfectly possible to adopt the neocon philosophy in principle without being either Jewish or pro-Israel.

In the real world, people can’t help noticing that a pro-Israel faction has come to dominate the neocon movement. To say this, however, is to court the charge of bigotry. I like to define a bigot as “one who practices sociology without a license.” There are certain social realities which it behooves one to discuss in euphemisms and circumlocutions. To talk about them bluntly is bigotry; to talk about them in academic lingo may be permissible.

Raising alarms about neocon influence is sometimes also called “a new form of McCarthyism.” But of course lots of things — hundreds, would be a safe estimate — have been branded “a new form of McCarthyism,” including any observation that communists and their sympathizers actually did infiltrate the administration of Franklin Roosevelt.

The real Joe McCarthy rose to prominence by affirming, none too academically, not only that there were Reds under the bed, but that a lot of them were in the bed with their pinko friends. This forced liberals to make sure that they kept a careful distance from Stalin’s little helpers, who had infiltrated the liberal movement and often hid behind liberal “fronts.” The Reds often found liberal causes handy for their own purposes.

Is there a lesson here for the neocons? I think so. Like the liberals of yore, they have carelessly allowed their movement to be infiltrated by Zionist partisans and agents who have brought suspicion on all of them. And just as the liberals of McCarthy’s day had to purge Communists from their ranks in order to preserve their good name, it’s up to patriotic American neocons — surely the great majority — to weed out the Israel-firsters among them.

At stake is the good name of the neoconservative philosophy. It would be a disaster to its principles for the general public to get the false impression that those principles are nothing but a “front” for agents of a foreign power who want to trick us into wars against our own interests.

Any genuine political philosophy can stand on its own feet. It must never be reduced to any particular interest if it is to have a broad appeal to ordinary people. The exposure of people calling themselves “neocons” (or taking shelter behind the label) as chums of the Israeli Likud threatens to discredit all the truly principled neoconservatives, who must now show that they represent a universal creed, not a narrow sect.

Otherwise, neoconservatives may find themselves once again mugged by reality.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: billkristol; davidbrooks; irvingkristol; israel; jews; josephmccarthy; mccarthyism; moynihan; neoconservatives; sobran; welfarestate; zionism
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To: rmlew
Here's how I see it.

Bob Novak > Pat Buchanan > Joe Sobran > David Duke
41 posted on 01/20/2004 12:24:44 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: cripplecreek
Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

National Socialist German Workers Party.

Just to really get their hackles up.
42 posted on 01/20/2004 12:31:50 PM PST by BJClinton (Vote Democrat, it's easier than thinking.)
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To: gcruse
Bob Novak > Pat Buchanan > Joe Sobran > David Duke

LOL, but where would Charley Reese fit in there?

43 posted on 01/20/2004 12:34:17 PM PST by westerfield
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To: junta
It is damn near impossible to find a neo-con who cannot write an essay without using the liberal hate word of "Racism" when it comes to critiqueing other conservatives.

I think Frum and a few of the other neocons learned their debating tactics from Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

44 posted on 01/20/2004 12:38:46 PM PST by westerfield
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To: junta
You wrote "transfer" with no doubt a straight face. A good many of your neocon friend excoriate America along with their lefty friends for its high crimes of "racism" (the never ending show trial, the need for never ending aversion therapy) so keep it up with that "transfer" non-sense and see where it leads. Or would you and your Manhattan flunkie friends like Frum like to "transfer" me somewhere where I cannot be pesky to you.
1. Neocons do not support "transfer" because it is inherently racial. It is at odds with their universalist delusions.
2. I am not a neocon. Think outside of the paleo delusion of persecution.
45 posted on 01/20/2004 12:43:47 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: westerfield
Following your link, it does appear that Sobran quotes Shahak concerning unflattering depictions of gentiles in the Talmud.
Shahak is a liar, who many anti-Zionists do not trust.

It is my understanding that the Torah is the main text of Judaism and the Talmud is merely a collection of Rabbi opinion, so I wouldn't necessarily be surprised that some un-pc stuff got in there, but that doesn't make Sobran a liar - just someone with perhaps a bit of a jewish obsession. Here is a link to an authoritative jewish source that pretty much concedes that what Sobran says about the Talmud is essentially true. http://www.daatemet.org/daathalacha/en_gentiles.html
The Talmud is a collection of customs, debates, and rulings.
There are plenty of unPC things there. However, Sobran contiues with lies. He lies about Jewish writtings on Jesus. Sobran and Shahak quote parts of rulings or even losing arguements as authoritative and use selective mistranslations.

If you want a collection of Shahak's lies,
http://www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/israel_shahak.htm
http://www.wernercohn.com/Shahak.html
http://www.meforum.org/article/87
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/exp.html
http://www.adl.org/presrele/asus_12/the_talmud.pdf
http://www.wquercus.com/talmud_attacks.doc

As far as Buckley getting a pass on his critisizing of Israel, I assume people cut him a break because he did after all dump Sobran and basically called Pat Buchanan an anti-semite. What seems to occur in these cases is that somebody starts out dissing Israel, then the attacks and name calling set in, until finally the person who has been set up thusly becomes even more hostile and obsessed with Jews. Kind of a vicious cycle.
Yes, their is a cycle, but only if there is truth behind the initial claim.

46 posted on 01/20/2004 1:01:46 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: westerfield
You sure they didn't learn it from those calling them "Israel-firsters"?
The neocon-paleocon debate has degraded into self-righteous name calling and claims of oppression on all sides. No one is without blame.
A pox on both their houses.
47 posted on 01/20/2004 1:03:52 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: westerfield
You know, I thought of Charley. I'd put him between Buchanan and Sobran. What do you thinK?
48 posted on 01/20/2004 1:07:03 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
Between Buchanan and Sobran? Yeah, that seems reasonable.
49 posted on 01/20/2004 1:19:27 PM PST by westerfield
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To: rmlew
The neocon-paleocon debate has degraded into self-righteous name calling and claims of oppression on all sides. No one is without blame.

I'll go along with that...the petty bickering did kind of degenerate into immature name-calling on both sides, tho it does point to some very real differences among conservatives when it comes to our relationship with Israel. While the vast majority of conservatives support Israel, the question of finacially subsidizing Israel rankles many, and whether it is appropriate for us to have a "special relationship" with what many consider just to be another ally is also a point of contention. Much of it seems to break down over one's religious beliefs (or lack thereof), tho certainly not exclusively.

50 posted on 01/20/2004 1:35:16 PM PST by westerfield
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To: westerfield
While the vast majority of conservatives support Israel, the question of finacially subsidizing Israel rankles many
Assuming that Zionist Neocons are Likudniks, they would oppose any financial aid to Israel. Former Israeli PM and not Economic Minister Netanyahu has called for such aid to be phased out. Military aid is trickier.
The "benefit" of the financial aid is not the Israeli economy, but the politicized labor unions who are crippling it. For this privilege, Israel looses independence. The US gains leverage, but is seen as responsible for anything and everything Israel does. This is an unhealthy relationship.

and whether it is appropriate for us to have a "special relationship" with what many consider just to be another ally is also a point of contention.
There are catagories of alliances. We have a special relationship to Britain and to the white Commonwealth nations. For different reasons, we have a deep bond with Israel. We have a debt of honor to the Philippenes and Micronesia.

Much of it seems to break down over one's religious beliefs (or lack thereof), tho certainly not exclusively.
I do find that most anti-Israel Paleos belong to religious denominations who follow replacement theology. (Pre-Vatican I Catholics, Orthodox Christians, various protestant denominations...)
I have found that atheist paleolibertarians to be almost exclusively anti-Zionist.

51 posted on 01/20/2004 6:27:22 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: Theodore R.
So, I guess the test of a true conservative is one who does not support Israel, right? After all, if you think Israel deserves our support, you're an Israel-firster, and you must be working for a foreign government.

What a crock.
52 posted on 01/20/2004 6:36:01 PM PST by Rocky
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