Did President Bush lie to the American People? Did our Intelligence Agencies fail us?

ME | 2/8/04 | mjy1288

[MJY1288]

All you have to do is remove the willful distortions of the facts in the press lately and look at this whole thing realistically, I'll try to do so now

1. We know for a FACT that Saddam Hussein possessed and used both Chemical and Biological agents against his enemies and his own people. This is FACT

2. We know that he was trying to develop a Nuclear Weapon before Israel bombed their Reactor in the 1980's... FACT

3. We know that his Chemical Weapons development went undetected until after the Gulf War and undetected by Weapons Inspectors until his Son-in-Law defected and told us where they were being developed.... FACT

4. We know that after 6 years of obstruction, the U.N. Weapons inspectors could not find and destroy the WMD's Saddam himself declared he had, in 1998 the U.N. Inspectors left Iraq without destroying everything that Saddam still possessed....... FACT

5. We know that Saddam never verified the destruction of the unaccounted for WMD's he admitted having... FACT

6. We know that after 12 years of U.N. Sanctions and enforcing the No-Fly Zones, Saddam still never accounted for the WMD's he admitted having..... FACT

7. We know that after Saddam was overthrown, David Kay has reported that Saddam had "Many Clandestine Laboratories" that were in violation of U.N. Resolution 1441, and all of the other 16 U.N. Resolutions ......FACT

8. We know that Saddam was compensating the families of suicide bombers in Israel in the amount of 25,000.00 U.S. Dollars.... FACT

9. We know that after the Gulf War in 1991, we found out that Saddam was much closer to developing a Nuclear Weapon that we had estimated…. FACT

After all of this... we are supposed to believe that Saddam voluntarily destroyed his WMD's after we left Iraq in 1998? The only intelligent conclusion anyone with half a brain can come up with is that either we have yet to find them in Iraq, or Saddam had them moved to Syria, and since many in his Regime fled to Syria, my guess is that they are buried in Syria.

No President who respects the Oath he takes to defend this Country could ignore these facts in a post 9/11 world. It’s not like Iraq was some third world country that we had never had problems with before, in fact, we lost several hundred U.S. Soldiers in Operation Desert Storm and Saddam had agreed to terms of a cease fire that would allow him to remain in power.

After 12 years of violating every agreement he made after the Gulf War and as a Nation who expects the world to take us seriously, we needed to remove him for the sake of our fallen soldiers whose blood was used to sign that cease fire in 1991. For that reason alone, WE DID THE RIGHT THING.. Think about this...... :-)

Have you heard anything about Syria lately? any statements from the State Dept. or Defense Dept.? The answer is NO, Methinks, we are in the middle of serious negotiations with Syria as I type this. Much like the ones we were in with Libya before they capitulated. My question is... Where is Richard Armitage? he is the State Departments "Heavy Hand" and he is one hell of an asset to this country

[MJY1288]

Comments!!

[MJY1288]

Ping for your thoughts

[Keith in Iowa]

>>..Where is Richard Armitage..

He's in charge of the carrot & stick approach...he tells the other side if they don't take the carrot, we'll deliver the stick in a most unpleasant manner...

[McGavin999]

Of course you are right. We were told at the very beginning of this that there are things we would know and things we would not know. Nothing is going to be said for sure until these weapons are in safe hands.

[MJY1288]

Ping

[piasa]

At the moment Armitage in is Japan talking tough anout North Korea.

[onyx]

Kerry saw the same intelligence. The media has an agenda: defeat President Bush by any and all means, the dirtier the better.

Nice work, MJY1288.

[Revolting cat!]

Methinks, we are in the middle of serious negotiations with Syria as I type this.

Me thinks as you typed this (or that as the case may be) it was 05:58AM Monday morning in Damascus. Now explain why yourthinks we'd, whoever "we" are, be negotiating at 05:58AM with Syria or anybody for that matter!

[eyespysomething]

Pre 9-11, we had the leisure to think and discuss what we should do.

Post 9-11, we act. And act fast.

I don't see what poeple don't get.

One of my favorite quotes:

I'm under the impression that all terrorists are like wasps from the same nest. It is fruitless and pointless to try to figure out which wasp stung us and which wasp did not. Destroy the nest and every wasp you find in the nest. 98 posted on 08/19/2003 9:19 AM EDT by carton253

[MJY1288]

The latest uncovering of the Nuclear Bazaar that was going on between the "Axis of Evil" members and others in the Middle East and the Horn of Africa has completely legitimized President Bush's remarks in his 2002 SOTU address when he warned of these gathering dangers that we are facing. Quietly behind the scenes he has lead the fight against our enemies and has never taken credit for what he and his team has been able to accomplish since September 11th, 2001.

[olliemb]

good post. good information. thanks

[MJY1288]

LOL, OK I'm very sorry, I should have posted a disclaimer for the anal here on FR :-)

[Old Sarge]

I don't have a single thing to add.

Except, maybe, why is the Bekaa Valley of interest to my brethren under arms?

[nopardons]

Cogently written, factual, and exposes the biased media, rabid Dems, and FR's naysayers for what and who they are.

This is how the president and we need to counter the garbage being put out there.

[MJY1288]

"Except, maybe, why is the Bekaa Valley of interest to my brethren under arms?"

And bring a bunch of excavating equipment :-)

[Defender2]

Thank You For Your Outstanding Post and Ping!!!!:-)

[joesnuffy]

The ends sometimes justifies the means

[joesnuffy]

If anyone should have a comment on Kerry it might be Armitage...
If I remember correctly Armitage was Mobile Riverine in 69 as well...

[speekinout]

No President who respects the Oath he takes to defend this Country could ignore these facts in a post 9/11 world.

But not every President cares about the Oath. Perks of office are enough for some of them. The perks are there, no matter what.
Bush was quite clear when he said that he wasn't "going to kick the can down the road". Do we want to address the problems we face, or just stick our heads in the sand and hope nothing bad happens?
The choice is clear.

[BlessedAmerican]

Wish President Bush had had your talking points before he sat down with Tim Russert today. Maybe he'll use them in his radio address next weekend! Thanks for a good post.