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Dean Reverses Statement to Quit if He Fails to Win in Wisconsin
The New York Times ^ | 02/09/04 | JODI WILGOREN

Posted on 02/09/2004 2:17:54 PM PST by Pokey78

GREEN BAY, Wis., Jan. 9 — Reversing his statement to get out of the race if he failed to win Wisconsin's primary on Feb. 17, Howard Dean said today that "it's not going to be the end of the line" and that "we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other."

Dr. Dean acknowledged that his statements, made in a series of interviews with television stations here, were an "obvious contradiction" to a fund-raising e-mail message sent to supporters last week saying that his campaign would be over unless he won in Wisconsin. Asked today whether he would drop out if he lost next week, Dr. Dean said, "No." Asked if he were in it for the long haul, he responded, "Yup."

"There's too many people who've come up to me and said whatever you do, `Don't drop out,' " Dr. Dean said. "I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen in Wisconsin, but we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other.`

Dr. Dean flew around this state today with a new slogan, a new speech and a new policy proposal, urging voters in Wisconsin to use their Feb. 17 primary to keep the Democratic nominating contest going.

"The media claims that this contest is over," Dr. Dean told 300 people gathered in a Madison hotel ballroom, before flying here. "They say that Wisconsin's voice doesn't count, that your votes don't count. They expect you to rubber-stamp everybody else's choice.

"But you don't have to listen to them," he added. "Wisconsin, you have the power to keep this debate alive."

Here, at a satellite campus of the University of Wisconsin, Dr. Dean stood under a sheet painted with the new slogan "Real Choice, Real change" and proposed a ban on lobbyists' giving campaign contributions, and an instant online database that would list whom lobbyists met with and what they discussed.

Speaking in Madison, Dr. Dean said, "I'll take on the big-money lobbying at the heart of the corrupt Washington game — the means by which special interests buy access and influence." He added: "The reason Congress writes an energy bill for oil companies and a Medicare drug benefit for pharmaceutical companies is that they pay the piper so they call the tune. Average Americans have no idea this is happening because the lobbying disclosure system in this country is a joke."

These proposals, along with reiterations of his ideas for overhauling campaign financing, highlighted Dr. Dean's main line of attack against the front-runner for the presidential nomination, Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, whom Dr. Dean has criticized for taking money from lobbyists.

As he has since his ballot losses in Iowa and New Hampshire, Dr. Dean emphasized his record of balancing budgets and expanding health insurance as governor of Vermont, along with the broader theme of being willing to stand up for unpopular positions.

"Let's just everybody close their eyes for a moment," Dr. Dean urged his audience in Wisconsin, painting a picture of a general election debate in October. "The president turns to the Democratic nominee and says, `Well, you voted for my war on Iraq, you voted to support my No Child Left Behind, you voted for some of my tax cuts. Why don't you just support me?"

As his rivals toured Tennessee and Virginia, which have primaries on Tuesday, Dr. Dean kicked off an eight-day sprint in Wisconsin, a state he has attached great significance to for his campaign. He plans to camp out in the state most of the week, leaving only to fly back to Vermont for his son's two high-school hockey games. His campaign also began running television advertisements today for the first time since Jan. 27.

In an interview with the ABC television affiliate in Madison, Dr. Dean noted that although he had not yet prevailed in any of the 12 states that have voted thus far, he is "only about 200 delegates behind John Kerry, maybe a little bit more, but I'm second in delegates right now."

Many of those delegates, however, are the elected officials and others known as superdelegates, who often switch camps throughout the process — indeed, Representative Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick of Michigan withdrew her endorsement of Dr. Dean on Sunday night, following the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

But in the television interview, Dr. Dean confidently predicted that "a win in Wisconsin would allow every state in Super Tuesday to take a second look."

"My great fear is that John Kerry may not be the strongest nominee against George Bush, because he believes in so many of his platforms," Dr. Dean said. "All I want to do is make sure we nominate the strongest person. Obviously I believe I'm the strongest person or I wouldn't be running, but I think Democrats ought not to be stampeded into the kind of rush that's going on right now."

Asked about the weekend's results, in which Washington State, Michigan and Maine — three states once thought very friendly to his message — all gave overwhelming support to Mr. Kerry, Dr. Dean said, "I think it's great."

"Three seconds in a row," Dr. Dean noted. "Better than anybody else so far."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2004; dean; greenparty
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1 posted on 02/09/2004 2:17:57 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Run Howie run.
2 posted on 02/09/2004 2:20:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
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To: Pokey78
Why is The Times still covering this putz? They should focus on a more viable candidate, like Ralph Nader.
3 posted on 02/09/2004 2:21:20 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: Pokey78
"I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen in Wisconsin, but we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other.

Green Party candidacy. Bet money on it. :)

4 posted on 02/09/2004 2:22:00 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: Pokey78
Dean needs to take revenge on his party and the press by running as a Green.
5 posted on 02/09/2004 2:22:44 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Pokey78
Go Dean Go! Hahaha....
6 posted on 02/09/2004 2:26:21 PM PST by demlosers (SUVs=Haliburton=Bush=Religion=Flag=VRWC=Repubs =WMDs= Oil=Black Helicopters=We're all going to die!!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I hope, I hope, I hope...
7 posted on 02/09/2004 2:26:21 PM PST by TheBigB (I got a fever...and the only prescription...is MORE COWBELL!)
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To: Pokey78
Bet he's heard something's going to break about Ketchup Boy...
8 posted on 02/09/2004 2:27:34 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Pokey78
I can't get enough Dean. Seriously, I love watching him like I love those Fox shows that feature shows of really stupid people doing dumb things and hurting themselves badly. The "I have a scream" speech ranks right up there with drunks jumping off hotel roofs and missing the pool or skateboarders overestimating their skills and smashing their face into a metal railing.

I guess I'm weird, but if somebody put out a Wellstoneapalooza DVD, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

9 posted on 02/09/2004 2:27:48 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: demlosers
Dean is beginning to slip into the Kucinich territory of total irrelevance..
10 posted on 02/09/2004 2:28:05 PM PST by ambrose (John Kerry is a War Criminal, Not War Hero)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Words right out of my head.
11 posted on 02/09/2004 2:30:05 PM PST by cksharks (quote from)
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To: ambrose

ARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHWARRRREEEEYEAAAAHHHH!!! (Sorry, just couldnt resist ONE more Iowa Yell).

12 posted on 02/09/2004 2:30:15 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Another vote here for Bush, only IF Congress ends up defeating his illegal immigration amnesty law)
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To: Pokey78; sauropod; NYC GOP Chick
GREEN BAY, Wis., Jan. 9 — Reversing his statement to get out of the race if he failed to win Wisconsin's primary on Feb. 17, Howard Dean said today that "it's not going to be the end of the line" and that "we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other."

I am thrilled to hear it! Now all our "Dean People Suck" t-shirts and buttons won't have been a complete waste of money.

13 posted on 02/09/2004 2:31:29 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Pokey78
Green Dean coming up?
14 posted on 02/09/2004 2:31:41 PM PST by SAMWolf (I am reading a very interesting book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down)
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To: ambrose
Dennis Kucinich Haikus, for you...

Little Denny boy Turned the lights out years ago Still not very bright

Boy Blunder beware Our dear Mistake on the Lake Was his own Default

In Cleveland we Trust His reign ever in turmoil Let George pay the bill

Recall the Mayor One who did so much damage In so little time

Imagine our town Shining City on the Bluff Gone in one big Puff

He said so proudly Rebuild the neighborhoods now Big Banks had a cow

15 posted on 02/09/2004 2:32:14 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Another vote here for Bush, only IF Congress ends up defeating his illegal immigration amnesty law)
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To: #3Fan
can Republicans and/or Independents cross-over in the WI primary?
16 posted on 02/09/2004 2:32:49 PM PST by mwl1
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
The Times is still covering ''this putz'' because Howie keeps things interesting, because it's still a long time until convention, because a lot of delegates are still up for grabs & because running for president does not make one immortal, in the practical sense of the word. More than that, the press is interested (or should be) in what Wisconsin is going to do--noting that Bush narrowly lost the state in 2000. I would NOT be surprised if Dean wins in WI, the addt'l wrinkle being that WI is an open primary state.
17 posted on 02/09/2004 2:33:01 PM PST by elli1
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To: hellinahandcart
And if he runs Third Party, you can market two versions, the other one being: Green People Suck
18 posted on 02/09/2004 2:33:07 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Another vote here for Bush, only IF Congress ends up defeating his illegal immigration amnesty law)
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To: #3Fan
He really was dirted by McAullife, and even more so by the media.
19 posted on 02/09/2004 2:33:35 PM PST by mwl1
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To: mwl1
Not sure. Apparantly they can in VIRGINIA (hint, election tomorrow) :-) (uh oh, that ought to give some DU lurkers the palipations and hershey squirts!)
20 posted on 02/09/2004 2:34:14 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Another vote here for Bush, only IF Congress ends up defeating his illegal immigration amnesty law)
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