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Dean Reverses Statement to Quit if He Fails to Win in Wisconsin
The New York Times ^ | 02/09/04 | JODI WILGOREN

Posted on 02/09/2004 2:17:54 PM PST by Pokey78

GREEN BAY, Wis., Jan. 9 — Reversing his statement to get out of the race if he failed to win Wisconsin's primary on Feb. 17, Howard Dean said today that "it's not going to be the end of the line" and that "we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other."

Dr. Dean acknowledged that his statements, made in a series of interviews with television stations here, were an "obvious contradiction" to a fund-raising e-mail message sent to supporters last week saying that his campaign would be over unless he won in Wisconsin. Asked today whether he would drop out if he lost next week, Dr. Dean said, "No." Asked if he were in it for the long haul, he responded, "Yup."

"There's too many people who've come up to me and said whatever you do, `Don't drop out,' " Dr. Dean said. "I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen in Wisconsin, but we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other.`

Dr. Dean flew around this state today with a new slogan, a new speech and a new policy proposal, urging voters in Wisconsin to use their Feb. 17 primary to keep the Democratic nominating contest going.

"The media claims that this contest is over," Dr. Dean told 300 people gathered in a Madison hotel ballroom, before flying here. "They say that Wisconsin's voice doesn't count, that your votes don't count. They expect you to rubber-stamp everybody else's choice.

"But you don't have to listen to them," he added. "Wisconsin, you have the power to keep this debate alive."

Here, at a satellite campus of the University of Wisconsin, Dr. Dean stood under a sheet painted with the new slogan "Real Choice, Real change" and proposed a ban on lobbyists' giving campaign contributions, and an instant online database that would list whom lobbyists met with and what they discussed.

Speaking in Madison, Dr. Dean said, "I'll take on the big-money lobbying at the heart of the corrupt Washington game — the means by which special interests buy access and influence." He added: "The reason Congress writes an energy bill for oil companies and a Medicare drug benefit for pharmaceutical companies is that they pay the piper so they call the tune. Average Americans have no idea this is happening because the lobbying disclosure system in this country is a joke."

These proposals, along with reiterations of his ideas for overhauling campaign financing, highlighted Dr. Dean's main line of attack against the front-runner for the presidential nomination, Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, whom Dr. Dean has criticized for taking money from lobbyists.

As he has since his ballot losses in Iowa and New Hampshire, Dr. Dean emphasized his record of balancing budgets and expanding health insurance as governor of Vermont, along with the broader theme of being willing to stand up for unpopular positions.

"Let's just everybody close their eyes for a moment," Dr. Dean urged his audience in Wisconsin, painting a picture of a general election debate in October. "The president turns to the Democratic nominee and says, `Well, you voted for my war on Iraq, you voted to support my No Child Left Behind, you voted for some of my tax cuts. Why don't you just support me?"

As his rivals toured Tennessee and Virginia, which have primaries on Tuesday, Dr. Dean kicked off an eight-day sprint in Wisconsin, a state he has attached great significance to for his campaign. He plans to camp out in the state most of the week, leaving only to fly back to Vermont for his son's two high-school hockey games. His campaign also began running television advertisements today for the first time since Jan. 27.

In an interview with the ABC television affiliate in Madison, Dr. Dean noted that although he had not yet prevailed in any of the 12 states that have voted thus far, he is "only about 200 delegates behind John Kerry, maybe a little bit more, but I'm second in delegates right now."

Many of those delegates, however, are the elected officials and others known as superdelegates, who often switch camps throughout the process — indeed, Representative Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick of Michigan withdrew her endorsement of Dr. Dean on Sunday night, following the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

But in the television interview, Dr. Dean confidently predicted that "a win in Wisconsin would allow every state in Super Tuesday to take a second look."

"My great fear is that John Kerry may not be the strongest nominee against George Bush, because he believes in so many of his platforms," Dr. Dean said. "All I want to do is make sure we nominate the strongest person. Obviously I believe I'm the strongest person or I wouldn't be running, but I think Democrats ought not to be stampeded into the kind of rush that's going on right now."

Asked about the weekend's results, in which Washington State, Michigan and Maine — three states once thought very friendly to his message — all gave overwhelming support to Mr. Kerry, Dr. Dean said, "I think it's great."

"Three seconds in a row," Dr. Dean noted. "Better than anybody else so far."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2004; dean; greenparty
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To: Pokey78
3rd PARTY FOR III REICH!
21 posted on 02/09/2004 2:34:22 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Revolting cat!
Ein Volk, Ein Dean, Ein Koolaid
22 posted on 02/09/2004 2:35:33 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Another vote here for Bush, only IF Congress ends up defeating his illegal immigration amnesty law)
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To: mwl1
Yes, voters can cross-over in the Wisconsin primary.
23 posted on 02/09/2004 2:36:14 PM PST by elli1
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To: elli1
Sure beats cow tipping.
24 posted on 02/09/2004 2:37:13 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Another vote here for Bush, only IF Congress ends up defeating his illegal immigration amnesty law)
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To: elli1
I can report that I personally know of 4 votes Dean will get in WI from Republicans. (G)
25 posted on 02/09/2004 2:37:15 PM PST by reformedliberal
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There is only one thing more pathetic than losing the presidential primary battle after having such a strong lead... not having the courage to quit.
26 posted on 02/09/2004 2:38:37 PM PST by george wythe
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To: mwl1
can Republicans and/or Independents cross-over in the WI primary?

Sorry, I don't know.

27 posted on 02/09/2004 2:39:37 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: mwl1
He really was dirted by McAullife, and even more so by the media.

Yeah, it was big-time political assassination.

28 posted on 02/09/2004 2:40:29 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Those are GREAT! Did you write them yourself? Funny, funny stuff.
29 posted on 02/09/2004 2:46:52 PM PST by alwaysconservative (It wasn't easy, but Democrats found a candidate with less charm than Gore!)
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To: alwaysconservative
sorry, i cannot claim authorship :-)
30 posted on 02/09/2004 2:48:40 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Another vote here for Bush, only IF Congress ends up defeating his illegal immigration amnesty law)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I still think we need to do funny bumper stickers about the Dems; ridicule seems to be the best tactic in dealing with them. They either scream or retreat back into dull cliches, it is just too delicious!
31 posted on 02/09/2004 2:51:52 PM PST by alwaysconservative (It wasn't easy, but Democrats found a candidate with less charm than Gore!)
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To: dead
...The "I have a scream" speech

First time I've seen that. That's funny.

32 posted on 02/09/2004 2:52:43 PM PST by SGCOS
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To: Pokey78
GREEN BAY, Wis., Jan. 9 — Reversing his statement to get out of the race if he failed to win Wisconsin's primary on Feb. 17, Howard Dean said today that "it's not going to be the end of the line" and that "we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other."

DEAN-NADER 2004:
RUN HOWEIRD RUN!


33 posted on 02/09/2004 2:52:49 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: #3Fan
Yeah! Revenge! Thats the ticket!
34 posted on 02/09/2004 2:56:49 PM PST by Ditter
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To: SGCOS
I thought so too. Unfortunately, it's not mine. I saw it in Peggy Noonan's column, but I don't think its her's either.
35 posted on 02/09/2004 2:57:03 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: cripplecreek
It is easy to dump on Dean since he and his handlers have made so many mistakes. I would say, however, that anyone who watched him being interviewed by Russert on Meet The Press must have been impressed as was I. He did as well as any major political figure in directly and succinctly answering the questions put to him. He looked and acted quite confidently and with some humility.

If he had maintained his traditional pragmatism and just added the war and gays, he would now be the RAT candidate.

I would be cautious in hoping he runs as a Green Party candidate. He might mar the election results such that President Bush would be elected again with a minority vote. Not the best way to begin a difficult second term.

36 posted on 02/09/2004 3:00:50 PM PST by shrinkermd (i)
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To: Pokey78
Watching Dean campaign every day is kinda like watching Kenny on South Park or Charlie Brown try to kick the football held by Lucy. You know he's going to bite the bullet, but the never-ending variety of ways in which it happens never fails to entertain.
37 posted on 02/09/2004 3:02:41 PM PST by Johnny_Cipher (Making hasenfeffer out of bunnyrabbits since 1980)
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To: shrinkermd
I would be cautious in hoping he runs as a Green Party candidate. He might mar the election results such that President Bush would be elected again with a minority vote. Not the best way to begin a difficult second term.

Speaking for no one but myself: I'll take a second Bush term, "minority vote" or otherwise, over a Dean or Kerry term with majority vote ANY ol' day... and twice on Sundays. :)

38 posted on 02/09/2004 3:03:26 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: Pokey78
Get the large number of votes in California! Bring AlGore with you! Come on in, the water's fine and fellow wierdos galore!
39 posted on 02/09/2004 3:04:16 PM PST by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: shrinkermd
Bush will get over 50% no matter what, but it would drive Kerry down to around 40% with FedaDean getting around 7%.
What a fun thought.
40 posted on 02/09/2004 3:06:58 PM PST by Patrick1
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