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Dean Reverses Statement to Quit if He Fails to Win in Wisconsin
The New York Times ^ | 02/09/04 | JODI WILGOREN

Posted on 02/09/2004 2:17:54 PM PST by Pokey78

GREEN BAY, Wis., Jan. 9 — Reversing his statement to get out of the race if he failed to win Wisconsin's primary on Feb. 17, Howard Dean said today that "it's not going to be the end of the line" and that "we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other."

Dr. Dean acknowledged that his statements, made in a series of interviews with television stations here, were an "obvious contradiction" to a fund-raising e-mail message sent to supporters last week saying that his campaign would be over unless he won in Wisconsin. Asked today whether he would drop out if he lost next week, Dr. Dean said, "No." Asked if he were in it for the long haul, he responded, "Yup."

"There's too many people who've come up to me and said whatever you do, `Don't drop out,' " Dr. Dean said. "I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen in Wisconsin, but we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other.`

Dr. Dean flew around this state today with a new slogan, a new speech and a new policy proposal, urging voters in Wisconsin to use their Feb. 17 primary to keep the Democratic nominating contest going.

"The media claims that this contest is over," Dr. Dean told 300 people gathered in a Madison hotel ballroom, before flying here. "They say that Wisconsin's voice doesn't count, that your votes don't count. They expect you to rubber-stamp everybody else's choice.

"But you don't have to listen to them," he added. "Wisconsin, you have the power to keep this debate alive."

Here, at a satellite campus of the University of Wisconsin, Dr. Dean stood under a sheet painted with the new slogan "Real Choice, Real change" and proposed a ban on lobbyists' giving campaign contributions, and an instant online database that would list whom lobbyists met with and what they discussed.

Speaking in Madison, Dr. Dean said, "I'll take on the big-money lobbying at the heart of the corrupt Washington game — the means by which special interests buy access and influence." He added: "The reason Congress writes an energy bill for oil companies and a Medicare drug benefit for pharmaceutical companies is that they pay the piper so they call the tune. Average Americans have no idea this is happening because the lobbying disclosure system in this country is a joke."

These proposals, along with reiterations of his ideas for overhauling campaign financing, highlighted Dr. Dean's main line of attack against the front-runner for the presidential nomination, Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, whom Dr. Dean has criticized for taking money from lobbyists.

As he has since his ballot losses in Iowa and New Hampshire, Dr. Dean emphasized his record of balancing budgets and expanding health insurance as governor of Vermont, along with the broader theme of being willing to stand up for unpopular positions.

"Let's just everybody close their eyes for a moment," Dr. Dean urged his audience in Wisconsin, painting a picture of a general election debate in October. "The president turns to the Democratic nominee and says, `Well, you voted for my war on Iraq, you voted to support my No Child Left Behind, you voted for some of my tax cuts. Why don't you just support me?"

As his rivals toured Tennessee and Virginia, which have primaries on Tuesday, Dr. Dean kicked off an eight-day sprint in Wisconsin, a state he has attached great significance to for his campaign. He plans to camp out in the state most of the week, leaving only to fly back to Vermont for his son's two high-school hockey games. His campaign also began running television advertisements today for the first time since Jan. 27.

In an interview with the ABC television affiliate in Madison, Dr. Dean noted that although he had not yet prevailed in any of the 12 states that have voted thus far, he is "only about 200 delegates behind John Kerry, maybe a little bit more, but I'm second in delegates right now."

Many of those delegates, however, are the elected officials and others known as superdelegates, who often switch camps throughout the process — indeed, Representative Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick of Michigan withdrew her endorsement of Dr. Dean on Sunday night, following the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

But in the television interview, Dr. Dean confidently predicted that "a win in Wisconsin would allow every state in Super Tuesday to take a second look."

"My great fear is that John Kerry may not be the strongest nominee against George Bush, because he believes in so many of his platforms," Dr. Dean said. "All I want to do is make sure we nominate the strongest person. Obviously I believe I'm the strongest person or I wouldn't be running, but I think Democrats ought not to be stampeded into the kind of rush that's going on right now."

Asked about the weekend's results, in which Washington State, Michigan and Maine — three states once thought very friendly to his message — all gave overwhelming support to Mr. Kerry, Dr. Dean said, "I think it's great."

"Three seconds in a row," Dr. Dean noted. "Better than anybody else so far."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2004; dean; greenparty
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To: Mark
I am so shocked a Democrat would lie!
41 posted on 02/09/2004 3:08:30 PM PST by olde north church
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To: Pokey78
"..."we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other." "

Best news I've heard all day!

Run, Howie, RUN!

42 posted on 02/09/2004 3:08:44 PM PST by Redbob
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To: shrinkermd
That was his second MTP interview. The first one was a disaster.

Dean was very careful on MTP to appear humble. However, the real Dean is the arrogant jerk who ordered that old man to sit down and be quiet.

I have watched Dean for some time, and humble is not one of his character traits.

43 posted on 02/09/2004 3:11:14 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: alwaysconservative
Best bumper sticker I've seen today was

Kerry - Fonda '04

44 posted on 02/09/2004 3:14:18 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Pokey78
i.e. he expects to lose now.
45 posted on 02/09/2004 3:21:41 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Pokey78
Dean - "My great fear is that John Kerry may not be
the strongest nominee against George Bush, ..."

Is there any chance that Dean is intending merely to
dilute the primary voting, so that Kerry is less likely
to arrive at the convention with the nomination sewn up?

What are the current forecasts on Kerry's capture of
committed delegates?

If the convention doesn't determine a candidate on the
first vote, it basically becomes a back-room gambit,
with the Clintons in likely control of the outcome.
This can't benefit Dean, but it probably won't benefit
Kerry either, unless he is the Clintons' authorized
"designated loser" for 2004.
46 posted on 02/09/2004 3:23:20 PM PST by Boundless
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To: Brilliant
On the Green Party website they have a statement that Ralph Nader and Crazy Cynthia McKinney have withdrawn their names from the Green Party nomination process.

Could they be clearing the way for a Dean/McDermott ticket?
47 posted on 02/09/2004 3:28:02 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Pokey78
It seems that honesty is not one of his strong points.
48 posted on 02/09/2004 3:49:12 PM PST by wattsup (wattsup)
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To: Patrick1
Not McDermott.
Dean/Sharpton
49 posted on 02/09/2004 4:27:30 PM PST by olde north church
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To: Redbob
Oh, I love that!
50 posted on 02/09/2004 4:37:34 PM PST by alwaysconservative (It wasn't easy, but Democrats found a candidate with less charm than Gore!)
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To: Pokey78
Don't give up Howie! Don't give up.
51 posted on 02/09/2004 6:25:54 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Patrick1
Wouldn't that be delightful. Too good to be true, though. I think Nader has decided that he'd rather not play the masochist this time around. Pretty soon, all his friends will stop talking to him.
52 posted on 02/09/2004 6:58:34 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: cripplecreek

53 posted on 02/09/2004 7:39:17 PM PST by Salamander
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To: cripplecreek
Dr. Dean acknowledged that his statements, made in a series of interviews with television stations here, were an "obvious contradiction" to a fund-raising e-mail message sent to supporters last week saying that his campaign would be over unless he won in Wisconsin. Asked today whether he would drop out if he lost next week, Dr. Dean said, "No." Asked if he were in it for the long haul, he responded, "Yup." "There's too many people who've come up to me and said whatever you do, `Don't drop out,' " Dr. Dean said. "I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen in Wisconsin, but we're going to find a way to stay in one way or the other.` <<

Yay!!! Dean's been listening to FREEPER emails! Go Dean Go! I hope the GOP primary is locked up by March so I can vote for you in Illinois and screw Kerry! Bwahahaha!!!

56 posted on 02/09/2004 9:27:03 PM PST by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: olde north church
Dean/Kucinich on a JOINT Green Party/Natural Law Party/Socialist Party ticket! All three parties join together to maximize their strength!!

Sharpton for Sec. of State if he agrees to ENDORSE the ticket and tell all "his" people to vote 3rd party and "slap the donkey!"

C'mon guys, go for it!

57 posted on 02/09/2004 9:32:45 PM PST by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: dead
Nice take. In the dumb stunts dept, you must include Dr Dean's dragging out wifey Dr Judy----a most unlikely political prop.

The fake Deans were so lovey-dovey with Diane Sawyer, they almost experienced connubial bliss on-camera.

Eternally sweatered, Dr Judy showed her contempt for voters and the presidency by not having the decency to get her hair done for primetime.

Dr J was described by one acid-tongued wit as "UnHillary, sweet, with just a touch of Hedda Nussbaum."

58 posted on 02/09/2004 9:41:11 PM PST by Liz
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To: Redbob; alwaysconservative
Best bumper sticker I've seen today was Kerry - Fonda '04

That's JFK at the top of the pic.

59 posted on 02/09/2004 9:45:27 PM PST by Liz
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To: Pokey78
Bye, bye and good riddance. I am so glad you are out of there, Howie the screamer and pro-euthanasia candidate. The medical field would have become a disaster with you in office. Look at Vermont.
60 posted on 02/09/2004 9:46:00 PM PST by MarMema
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