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Petition to Arrest Mayor Newsom
Petition to Gov. Schwarzenegger to Arrest Mayor Newsom of San Francisco ^ | 2/19/2004 | Nick Bradley

Posted on 02/19/2004 8:48:39 PM PST by Remember_Salamis

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To: Remember_Salamis
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21 posted on 02/19/2004 11:00:39 PM PST by freebacon
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To: Remember_Salamis
While you may disagree with Newsom's actions, the legal theory behind your argument is simplistic and ineffective. Newsom has rather strong arguments as to the constitutionality of the denial of marriages based on sex and consequently sexual orientation. In the end, it will take a constitutional amendment to ensure that gays cant get married...that's not the case as of now.
23 posted on 02/19/2004 11:47:36 PM PST by abraxas_sandiego
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To: Remember_Salamis; Squantos
I'd like to see a mayor and police chief in some rural Kali town declare that they've read the 2nd amd, understand it, and will hand out Kali concealed pistol permits to any non-felon US Citizen for the asking.

That mayor would be on much stronger Constitutional ground, but you can bet the ATF would come in with MP-5's blazing in the first hour.

Some constituencies are more equal than others.....

24 posted on 02/19/2004 11:52:06 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: abraxas_sandiego
What arguements would then be? And how would the same arguements NOT hold for polygamous marriages, or father/daughter or father/son or brother/brother marriages? Please explain how 3% of the population can demand that 5,000 years of civilization may be overturned to fit THEIR preferred perversion, but not the other?

Please give a detaile, logical answer FOR homo "marriage," but AGAINST the other cases?

What homohubris to declare "MY perversion is normal and worthy of marriage, but YOUR perversion is NOT!"

25 posted on 02/19/2004 11:55:40 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
the argument is that it's unconstitutional to deny someone a LEGAL right based on their race, sex, etc...if 2 hetero people can get married, then in all probability, it's unconstitutional to say that two gays can't. your argument about father/son marriages has zero bearing or applicability...it's not a LEGAL option for ANYONE.
26 posted on 02/20/2004 12:01:52 AM PST by abraxas_sandiego
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To: Triple Word Score; snopercod; Criminal Number 18F
I wasn't at all surprised to hear that Da Mayor would to that. Hey, it completes his trifecta: orchestrating Chad-gate (with the famous Chicago Fraud Rod), illegally destroying Chicago's downtown airport, Meigs Field, in the middle of the night, and now this.

So, does that mean that we can turn San Francisco into a concealed carry city and county, even if it doesn't comply with their laws? I mean, I don't agree with that, so it's OK, right?

(sound of crickets chirping.)
27 posted on 02/20/2004 12:03:04 AM PST by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: freebacon
"It's a politician with no respect for his office pandering to the gay community. It's a sad human being that felt unimportant, and unnoticed when The Terminator was being elected, and wants some of the spotlight. It's the systematic destruction of American culture, and human tradition. By a radical Left, Which has been their agenda since Vietnam to Affirmative Action. To divide the citizenry of the nation and create a new proletariat for them to preach to."

AMEN. 100% AMEN.

28 posted on 02/20/2004 12:04:57 AM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: GodGunsandGuts
"Wait I just thought of something. I am in love with a beauty of an AK-47 in Virginia..."

Man are YOU going to have to get some MAJOR surgical alterations to consummate THAT marriage...

Bring grease...

29 posted on 02/20/2004 12:08:08 AM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: abraxas_sandiego
"While you may disagree with Newsom's actions..."

Poppycock.

30 posted on 02/20/2004 12:09:52 AM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: abraxas_sandiego
"if 2 hetero people can get married, then in all probability, it's unconstitutional to say that two gays can't. your argument about father/son marriages has zero bearing or applicability..."

Twist and spin. Nothing but BS 100%.

31 posted on 02/20/2004 12:12:27 AM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: EUPHORIC
wow...what an insightful, intelligent response. well done.
32 posted on 02/20/2004 12:18:30 AM PST by abraxas_sandiego
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
I dunno about that. He is already a hero to millions, and if we do nothing it will encourage more 'heroes' like Mayor Daley to do the same.

The state AG should investigate and go to court to issue am injunction to stop these marriages going on in SF. Then, take the process to the courts, where it will be decided fairly.

A state court could find Prop 22 illegal under the California State Charter. If that's the case, Cali should take steps to amend it's Constitution defining marriage, just like we did here in Nevada.

If the state court finds that the law is valid, then SF can't issue the licenses. My guess is that even then, they won't stop. The recourse then is to arrest the folks who are giving these licenses, or fine the city of SF (amd the elected officials personally) for every invalid license it wilfully issued, or some combination of those remedies.

I agree we shouldn't be ras, but clearly SF can't be allowed to continue breaking the law. What course of action would you prefer?
34 posted on 02/20/2004 1:54:03 AM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: farmfriend
BTT!!!!!
35 posted on 02/20/2004 3:04:13 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
We don't want to make a martyr of Newsom, which would make him the hero to millions. We have to be very careful what course of action we take.

I agree. Everyone in S.F. with a parking ticket should return it and say they don't believe the city has the authority to charge parking to the very citizens that own the public land, and since Newsom can ignore laws then laws don't apply to parking tickets as well.

36 posted on 02/20/2004 4:03:11 AM PST by highlander_UW
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To: abraxas_sandiego
A marriage license isn't a right, it's a privilege. If it was a right then incest, polygamy, and polyandry wouldn't be illegal, too.
37 posted on 02/20/2004 4:04:38 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: abraxas_sandiego
the argument is that it's unconstitutional to deny someone a LEGAL right based on their race, sex, etc...if 2 hetero people can get married, then in all probability, it's unconstitutional to say that two gays can't. your argument about father/son marriages has zero bearing or applicability...it's not a LEGAL option for ANYONE.

False logic here. Heterosexual and homosexual people have an EQUAL right to marry someone of the opposite sex. There is no discrimination. The efforts are to change the meaning of marriage...and if it can be changed to fit one perversion, why not others?

38 posted on 02/20/2004 4:08:05 AM PST by highlander_UW
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Obviously they are.

It does not matter what the law is. Its what you think the law is.

39 posted on 02/20/2004 5:23:36 AM PST by expatguy
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To: Remember_Salamis
...but your state is next.

Actually, my state, Vermont, was, sadly, first.

40 posted on 02/20/2004 5:30:49 AM PST by .30Carbine
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