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Kerry, Edwards to Face Off in California Debate
Reuters ^ | 2-26-04 | John Whitesides

Posted on 02/26/2004 5:18:31 PM PST by jwalburg

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Democratic presidential contenders converged on California on Thursday for the first of two debates that give John Edwards his best shot at slowing front-runner John Kerry's momentum before next week's 10-state Super Tuesday showdown.

Kerry, Edwards and the two other remaining candidates, Dennis Kucinich and Al Sharpton, will participate in the 90-minute debate at the University of Southern California on Thursday night.

Along with a Sunday debate in New York, the two forums offer Edwards his most public platform to try to change the dynamics of the Democratic race and stop Kerry's march to the nomination to face President Bush in November.

Bush, who launched his re-election drive earlier this week with attacks on Kerry, continued the theme during a trip to Kentucky and North Carolina. He derided his political rivals as out of touch with working Americans for refusing to support making his tax cuts permanent.

Kerry, who earned the endorsement of the New York Times, has dominated the Democratic race with 18 victories in the first 20 contests, and another blowout on Tuesday could put the nomination in reach and Edwards' candidacy in doubt.

The 10 states include big prizes like California, New York and Ohio and have 1,151 delegates at stake, more than half of the 2,162 needed to win. Kerry would not have enough delegates to win the nomination with another dominating performance, but Edwards would have little incentive to push on.

Edwards, who used a strong debate performances in Iowa and Wisconsin to mount late charges in those earlier races, began the day by earning the endorsements of the California and New York chapters of the ACORN community group, which represents more than 150,000 low and moderate-income families.

"I want to change this country so never again in America does anyone ever utter the phrase 'working poor,"' he said at a rally in San Francisco.

Kerry arrived in Los Angeles on Thursday afternoon and planned to stop at a grocery store to meet striking workers. More than 70,000 California grocery employees have been on strike for the past five months over a plan by three supermarket chains to cut their health benefits.

The Massachusetts senator drew more than 2,500 people at a campaign rally in Macalester College's field house in St. Paul, Minnesota, on Wednesday night. Fire marshals said they turned away hundreds more.

During a speech interrupted dozens of times by a mix of union members and college students waving blue-and-white Kerry signs, the senator blamed Bush for sending American jobs abroad, leaving millions without health care, running an inept foreign policy and alienating traditional U.S. allies.

Bush, on a visit to Kentucky, said his challengers were out of touch with working Americans for opposing the extension of his 2001 and 2003 tax cuts at a cost of around $1 trillion over the next decade.

"That's code word for 'I'm going to raise your taxes,"' Bush told workers at a Louisville pipe-making company.

"We don't need to be raising taxes right now as the economy is beginning to recover. We've got plenty of money in Washington D.C.," he said, ignoring this year's projected half-trillion-dollar budget deficit.

Bush also planned a visit to Edwards' home turf of North Carolina on Thursday night for a fund raiser in Charlotte.

"I wish President Bush would spend more time talking to families and listening to their fears, like I do," the North Carolina senator said. "Then he might realize that the people of North Carolina need more from their president than economic photo-ops and $2,000-a-plate fund raisers."

In its editorial endorsing Kerry, The New York Times said he "exudes maturity and depth" and that "what his critics see as an inability to take strong, clear positions seems to us to reflect his appreciation that life is not simple."

But the Times also criticized Kerry for showing little interest in being daring and said: "We wish we could see a little of the political courage of the Vietnam hero who came back to lead the fight against the war."

The Times said Edwards was a strong campaigner but too inexperienced. "When he departs from his stump speech and discusses domestic issues or -- particularly -- foreign affairs, his lack of experience shows," it said. (Additional reporting by Patricia Wilson, Deborah Charles, Adam Entous)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; california; debate; democratdebate; edwards; election; kerry
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To: hole_n_one
Have we ever had a president named Dennis?
101 posted on 02/26/2004 6:47:05 PM PST by petercooper (America - where your problems aren't your fault, they're someone else's.)
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To: Dolphy
I don't know what his point was in bringing up Clinton, who didn't go to Congress, as a comparison to Bush, who did. It seems to me that he proved the point, Congress okayed the action in Iraq.

I know...that whole segment from Kerry is an ad for the RNC.

102 posted on 02/26/2004 6:47:30 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Mo1
I wish they would ask Kerry just HOW LONG he would have left all those troops frying in the desert with their equipment and morale going to heck in a handbasket. Would they still be sitting there?

Is a "threat" perishable?
103 posted on 02/26/2004 6:47:38 PM PST by Timeout ("Hello, Freedom Man"...Vietnam boat refugees to American sailors, 1982)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
No, but this is mostly for the base now.
104 posted on 02/26/2004 6:47:40 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: All
Gad! The elf says Iraq was pure as the driven snow!!!!!
105 posted on 02/26/2004 6:48:22 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
This could be a Dukakis moment. Maybe it will catch fire.
106 posted on 02/26/2004 6:49:14 PM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: Right_in_Virginia
"Kerry's tortured semantics won't hold up in a debate with the President."

I hope you're right. Kerry was a debating champion in college. All that means though is that he's a bull$hitter par excellance.

107 posted on 02/26/2004 6:49:57 PM PST by mass55th
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To: petercooper; Mo1
Kucinich and Sharpton get to make statements on Iraq, then Larry King said they'll move on to domestic issues.

That's my cue to finish cleaning the kitchen and get ready to watch The Apprentice in 10 minutes.

Oh, pompous Kerry interrupts Dennis.

Mo, you may be right. Kerry just made another definitive "I never said that" statement. I agree, it will be useful to file away a transcript for future reference if we can get our hands on one. I've had enough of these guys tonight.
108 posted on 02/26/2004 6:50:02 PM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: Timeout
I wish they would ask Kerry just HOW LONG he would have left all those troops frying in the desert with their equipment and morale going to heck in a handbasket.

Do you think this would even register with a man who thought nothing of lying about the military in Viet Nam?

109 posted on 02/26/2004 6:50:31 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Mo1
With his support of death penalty (vs. Kerry's opposition), Edwards is certainly more electable than Kerry in a general election. But its a big negative for a liberal primary electorate.
110 posted on 02/26/2004 6:50:57 PM PST by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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To: GrandmaPatriot
Wow. Edwards is looking w-e-a-k!
111 posted on 02/26/2004 6:51:03 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Edwards just says some weird things, how Haiti is Bush's fault?
112 posted on 02/26/2004 6:51:49 PM PST by Monty22
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To: petercooper
Didn't Kucinich get about 30% of the vote in Hawaii? Of course by this point that could just be a "not Kerry" vote.
113 posted on 02/26/2004 6:52:32 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Monty22
Now Kerry says the President has a hatred for Aristed.

**Sigh**
114 posted on 02/26/2004 6:52:52 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Kerry: The Bush administration has a "theological" hatred for Aristide.

I'm serious...he said that.
115 posted on 02/26/2004 6:52:56 PM PST by Timeout ("Hello, Freedom Man"...Vietnam boat refugees to American sailors, 1982)
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To: Monty22
Did Kerry just accuse the Bush administration of theological hatred?
116 posted on 02/26/2004 6:53:23 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: GrandmaPatriot
Re: >> Kerry wouldn't support the death penalty for the killer of a five year old because we must be a "civil" nation.

>This could be a Dukakis moment.

Naw... unless John Efing says he would strangle Michael Jackson or Rosie O' with his bare hands. That would thunderstrike the Hollywood Left!

117 posted on 02/26/2004 6:53:30 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Yep, but you have to realize it is Socialist Republic of Hawaii
118 posted on 02/26/2004 6:53:34 PM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: Dolphy
Theological hatred of Aristide (sp)
119 posted on 02/26/2004 6:53:49 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Dolphy
He sure did! I heard it myself
120 posted on 02/26/2004 6:53:51 PM PST by tapatio
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