Kerry on the Record: Amnesty is OK

NewsMax.com ^ | March 4, 2004 | Dave Eberhart

[BigSkyFreeper]

Enough of this idiocy on the part of Kerry and the Democrats, and Bush won't have to "Bring It On" or spend a dime.

[My2Cents]

Kerry finds himself bucking a President who is touting a plan that does not feature any sort of classic amnesty...

This kind of statement is red-meat to the Immigration Hawks. Anything short of rounding up everyone here illegally at gunpoint and dropping them back into Mexico (preferrably from an altitude of about 10,000 feet) is "amnesty."

[gatorbait]

Here's the real amnesty candidate for president. How bad does Bush look now?

Well, unless the Bush Bashers windex their navels, none of their hate rhetoric will change.They'll just find something else to support Kerry with.

[onyx]

Yep, "WE" are all on the same page.

[Howlin]

Here's ALL you need to know about John Kerry:

In the first days of a Kerry Administration, I will appoint a Presidential Ambassador to the Peace Process who will report directly to me and the Secretary of State – and who will work day-to-day to move that process forward. There are a number of uniquely qualified Americans who I would consider appointing, including: President Carter, former Secretary of State James Baker, or, as I suggested almost two years ago, President Clinton.

[nopardons]

No kidding. It's beyond the pale, that some here are working so hard, to claim,on the one hand, how "CONSERVATIVE" they are are,and on the other,how much better it would be, to get rid of President Bush.

[onyx]

CHEE-IT --- James Baker would NEVER work for Kerry.

[nopardons]

Great find, ETOM. Boy, oh boy, is Kerry a disaster!

[nopardons]

Your tinfoil is wrapped far too tightly and has completely cut off the blood from your brain.

[onyx]

Hey, ETOM. Really good to see you at such a decent hour for both of us. :)

[nopardons]

Unusual for me,I know, and I really should be elsewhere, but oh well. LOL

This thread has some really eye opening info.

[Sabertooth]

After a period of time, however, the dreaded “amnesty” word worked its way out of the Kerry lexicon on the subject. In its place -- the more refined and neater: “earned legalization”:

“I support an earned legalization proposal that will allow undocumented immigrants to legalize their status if they have been in the United States for a certain amount of time, have been working, and can pass a background check. This makes sense for the economy, provides fairness to people in our communities who have worked hard and paid taxes, and will also allow us to strengthen our homeland security by bringing undocumented workers out of the shadows.”

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As to Kerry’s opinion of the President’s proposed program: “We need comprehensive immigration reform; you can’t do just one piece. The president’s plan is a fraudulent plan. It’s fundamentally a plan for cheap labor.”

Harsh labels aside, Kerry finds himself bucking a President who is touting a plan that does not feature any sort of classic amnesty:

“I oppose amnesty -- placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship,” Bush said, when announcing his own proposal. “Granting amnesty encourages the violation of our laws and perpetuates illegal immigration. America’s a welcoming country. But citizenship must not be the automatic reward for violating the laws of America.”

Bush, among other things, wants to up the number of “green” cards that allow immigrants to work lawfully in the U.S. Currently about 140,000 “green cards” are issued each year to people wanting to migrate to the United States.

The differences between the Kerry Amnesty and the Bush Amnesty are largely cosmetic and semantic. Both would legalize millions of Illegals, and enable them to eventually get green cards and citizenship. Kerry's initial proposal would legalize more than Bush's, but the differences would probably narrow as either passed through Congress.

Kerry does seem to be a little more comfortable than Bush is in honestly calling his Amnesty for what it is.

Both the Kerry and Bush Amnesties are bad for the country, and need to be defeated.

[Sabertooth]

Pinging Sabertooth. Somehow I think this stuff will have him upchuck his breakfast! ;-)

Nah, both parties are malfeasant on Illegals, and all of the Presidential candidates from both sides were pro-Amnesty from the start of the race. No surprises here.

The best chances of defeating Amnesty remain in maintaining a solidly GOP House. The Senate, limpwrists will probably go along with the Bush Amnesty, and I am not of the mind to see Kerry elected and hope for gridlock that way.

[Sabertooth]

This kind of statement is red-meat to the Immigration Hawks. Anything short of rounding up everyone here illegally at gunpoint and dropping them back into Mexico (preferrably from an altitude of about 10,000 feet) is "amnesty."

That's nonsense, of course.

Legalizing Illegal Aliens = Amnesty.

To suggest otherwise is as dishonest as saying that "is" isn't "is," and Lewinskies aren't sex.

At some point, I fully expect to see posters on this forum saying:

"So? Everyone lies about Amnesty."

[NittanyLion]

Good posts.

[NittanyLion]

This kind of statement is red-meat to the Immigration Hawks. Anything short of rounding up everyone here illegally at gunpoint and dropping them back into Mexico (preferrably from an altitude of about 10,000 feet) is "amnesty."

Similarly, to the "Immigration Doves", anything short of a 3000 square foot home and $250,000 welcoming gift is "a crackdown on illegals".

That statement makes about as much sense as your original. Surely you know better than to spread this kind of hyperbole around.

[gatorbait]

Kerry does seem to be a little more comfortable than Bush is in honestly calling his Amnesty for what it is.

Thanks again for your always erudite thoughts on this subject. Obviously Kerry is a paragon of honesty and should be supported. After all, we all know Bush is a RINO and must be flogged into submission .

Absolutely, Kerry is a man of principle and moral clarity. Thanks for calling that to our attention.

[EllaMinnow]

[onyx]

What is that "thang" on that child's head?

[EllaMinnow]

It's his "thinking cap" so he can grow up to be a REAL conservative.