Texan argues for concealed carry

Lawrence Journal-World ^ | March 16, 2004 | John Hanna

[axel f]

Good testimony. Check out Vratil's comment.

[axel f]

Ping

[mtbopfuyn]

The Luby's shootings was a horrible, horrible day.

[Jack Black]

Which party is Gov. Kathleen Sebelius a member of. She should be removed from office at the next opportunity. If a R she should face a vigorous primary challenge.

[goldstategop]

Yeah and you folks in Kansas better elect a pro CCW Governor. Its about time. There's Wisconsin but the real fight after Kansas will be in Nebraska.

[goldstategop]

Kathleen Sibelius is a Democrat. Her successor was a RINO.

[Jack Black]

I'm liking the idea of open carry, too. What are the laws about that. Of course I love westerns.

[Jack Black]

I'm liking the idea of open carry, too. What are the laws about that. Of course I love westerns.

[axel f]

She's a Dem. Though if you watched her campaign commercials you'd swear she was a Republican.

[Jason_b]

I'm still trying to figure out where the state gets off telling its citizens that they cannot carry concealed as a matter of freedom. And it is from that position that citizens must ask and beg for it to be made legal? I guess I just don't think the way other folks (politicians) do.

[goldstategop]

Oops, that should be corrected - sucessor = predecessor.

[axel f]

Yeah, I was 13 or 14 years old at the time, but I remember it still.

[hopespringseternal]

Sen. John Vratil, a Federal and State Affairs Committee member, said he would like to see churches added to the list.

Not that any churches have ever been shot up by nutcases. /sarcasm

Most of the times I get around to reading legislative deliberations, I come to the conclusion that being elected to political office is like joining the anti-mensa society.

[axel f]

It's interesting how the same people who say abortion shouldn't be regulated by the government--that it's a private matter--have no problem regulating gun ownership. Backward thinking, if you ask me.

[axel f]

I thought I was the only one who had no problem with guns in a church. Glad I joined FR!

I remember an episode of Unsolved Mysteries where a man broke into a church while service was going on, ordering the congregation at gunpoint to get on its knees, and then shot and killed the minister. He then fled the scene. If someone had had a gun at the service, he wouldn't still be at large today.

[lentulusgracchus]

Good testimony. Check out Vratil's comment.

It's limited to citizens because the Second Amendment refers to "the right of the People to keep and bear", meaning the body of citizenry. No alien has the "right" to own a firearm in the U.S.

The NBC TV show West Wing, in reruns on the local ABC affiliate (shows from a couple of years ago) slimed Texas's concealed-carry laws with an episode in which someone stood up in a Texas church and opened fire, whereupon someone else with a CCW license also stood up and opened fire at the bad guy -- but missed and killed a 9-year-old girl (Democratic pity party: someone has to die!).

It hasn't happened, but Worst Wing's writers had a high old time putting President Bartlett up on his high horse, slapping down his Texan VP on the subject. It's the gun-grabbers' dream scenario: "more harm to let them carry". Mind you, the scenario was identical to the Charles Hennard and Larry Ashcroft shootings in Texas; Suzanna Gratia Hupp was testifying about the Hennard incident in Killeen. Larry Ashcroft, whose name usually doesn't escape my keyboard or my lips, was a Phineas Priest, a kind of right-wing assassin, who went after the Baptists because the Southern Baptist Convention had "compromised" its segregationist theology of 50 years ago. He shot up a Sunday-school meeting, then killed himself with a curse on his lips.

[hopespringseternal]

I heard of a church in Garland, TX where most of the cops attend. Supposedly, one Sunday an enterprising young criminal decided to attend the church until the plate was passed, then hold the church up and steal the take.

When his big moment arrived, he made his play only to find himself surrounded by armed off-duty cops.

I have no idea how true that story is, I have no first hand knowledge.

[MarkL]

Dr. Hupp is very effective. It's hard for an anti-gunner to look her in the eyes and say, "You were better off not having that gun." You know that's what they believe, but even they can't bring themselves to say it.

Her loss was terribly tragic, but what she's done with her life since then has been to work tirelessly to ensure that the anti-gunners can't just trot out victim after victim without confronting them with the (to them) ugly truth that guns are used for defense.

She's an amazing woman.

Mark

[Sunshine Sister]

We thought we had one in the prior administration. He promised to sign concealed carry legislation until it was put on his desk. He vetoed it.