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***Breaking*** Kerry Continued to Represent the VVAW after November, 1971
WinterSoldier.com ^ | 03/18/2004 | Interesting Times

Posted on 03/18/2004 5:35:06 PM PST by Interesting Times

March 19, 2004 -- **BREAKING** WinterSoldier.com has obtained solid evidence that John Kerry continued to represent the VVAW well after the infamous November 12-15 1971 meeting at which that organization voted on whether to commit political assassinations. See our new "So when did John Kerry leave the VVAW, anyway?" links in the Documents, Film Clips, Audio and Cartoons section.

For example, the New York Times identified Kerry as "spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War" in this article on January 11, 1972. In fact, as late as April 22, 1972, Kerry was still being identified in press reports as a "leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War."

Senator Kerry says he quit the VVAW sometime before November 12, 1971.

Senator Kerry has some explaining to do.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; assassinationplot; darkplot; johnkerry; kerry; vvaw
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It isn't really activism, of course, but we like it...
1 posted on 03/18/2004 5:35:08 PM PST by Interesting Times
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To: Interesting Times
Get this to Rush, Hannity...even try and email it to all the papers...the columnist would be good too.
2 posted on 03/18/2004 5:36:25 PM PST by Jewels1091
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3 posted on 03/18/2004 5:37:08 PM PST by keithtoo (W '04 - I'll pass on the ketchup-boy.)
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To: Interesting Times
I'm not sure that means too much. The NYT wasn't as involved in subversive activities then as it is now. They may not have known better.
4 posted on 03/18/2004 5:37:34 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; dixiechick2000; Tamsey; ...
Over Here
5 posted on 03/18/2004 5:37:51 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Interesting Times
OH YEAH BABY!!!
6 posted on 03/18/2004 5:38:05 PM PST by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: Interesting Times
OH YEAH BABY!!!
7 posted on 03/18/2004 5:38:20 PM PST by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: Interesting Times
Are you kidding me!

Isn't this AFTER they talked of assassinating Senators who supported the war in Vietnam???
8 posted on 03/18/2004 5:38:24 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (Kerry is Unfit for Commander In Chief)
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To: Skeet; The Right Stuff; abner; Bob J; diotima; DoughtyOne; Libertina; LurkerNoMore!; MinuteGal; ...
Ping.
9 posted on 03/18/2004 5:38:24 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Enduring Freedom
Isn't this AFTER they talked of assassinating Senators who supported the war in Vietnam???

Why, yes... yes, I believe it was.

10 posted on 03/18/2004 5:39:12 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: VadeRetro
They still would have confirmed titles with Kerry. They wouldn't name him as the spokesman/leader without his and/or the organizations say so.
11 posted on 03/18/2004 5:39:56 PM PST by blanknoone (Give Kerry enough nuance, and he will hang himself.)
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To: Interesting Times
Tom Lipscomb of the NY Sun was on the Michael Reagan talk show this evening.

Tom says more on Kerry's early years is coming out in tomorrow's Sun.

Tom said he has 8 witnesses to Kerry's being in KC and at the 'kill the Senators' meeting.

12 posted on 03/18/2004 5:40:20 PM PST by TomGuy (Kerry is scarey.)
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To: StarFan
ping
13 posted on 03/18/2004 5:40:34 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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To: Interesting Times

14 posted on 03/18/2004 5:40:42 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: Enduring Freedom
While I always believed Socialists like Kerry had more in common with Terrorists than Americans...

...who knew Jacques Query also was a SUICIDE BOMBER!!!

This guy is hilarious!

Turn him over - he's done!

4.
MORE.
YEARS.
15 posted on 03/18/2004 5:40:58 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (Kerry is Unfit for Commander In Chief)
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To: Interesting Times
ARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

(Kerry upon reading this article...)
16 posted on 03/18/2004 5:41:49 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (Kerry is Unfit for Commander In Chief)
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To: Interesting Times
GREAT POST! Way to go! Wonder what Kerry/McCain are going to have to say about this one?
17 posted on 03/18/2004 5:42:00 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: Interesting Times
More flip flops...he led a group that wanted to kill Senators, and then he became one.
18 posted on 03/18/2004 5:42:16 PM PST by Piranha
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To: TomGuy
Tom said he has 8 witnesses to Kerry's being in KC and at the 'kill the Senators' meeting.

Given that the Ketchup Lady's Boy-Toy had presidential ambitions before he went through puberty, I have a hard time believing he would put himself in a position to be in the room when a subversive assassination plot was being discussed.

19 posted on 03/18/2004 5:42:16 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Interesting Times
great news!!!
20 posted on 03/18/2004 5:42:35 PM PST by knak
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To: Interesting Times
Could I have a clarification.

I thought that they decided instead of killing senators they were going to throw away their medals. Does it jive with the time frame.

21 posted on 03/18/2004 5:42:45 PM PST by mware
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To: Interesting Times
You mean Kerry is a damn liar?
22 posted on 03/18/2004 5:43:56 PM PST by Fresh Wind (George Bush kills terrorists. Bill Clinton pardons them. John Al-Qerry will apologize to them.)
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To: Interesting Times; Hon; hchutch; doug from upland
The gun seems to be emitting a whiff of cordite residue.
23 posted on 03/18/2004 5:44:17 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: VadeRetro
I'm not sure that means too much. The NYT wasn't as involved in subversive activities then as it is now. They may not have known better.

You're kidding right?

24 posted on 03/18/2004 5:44:33 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Interesting Times
Mr. Kerry, do you have a comment?


"Are you a Republican?"
"Did you vote for George Bush?"
"I represented them until I no longer represented them."
"Let me make myself clear that it appears that it looks like this might be something that perhaps as I've said before might apparently address that issue maybe."
"Republican attack dog."
"It's none of your business."
25 posted on 03/18/2004 5:44:45 PM PST by Samwise (I am going to need to be sedated before this election is over.)
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To: Interesting Times; Mo1; PhiKapMom; Hon; Wolfstar
WHOA!
Can we post that photo wintersoldier.com has on their page?

Thnaks for the ping Mo1.
26 posted on 03/18/2004 5:45:31 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Kerry is going down too quick, he will never make it to the convention.!!
27 posted on 03/18/2004 5:45:53 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Well, Bubba had the same ambitions and was stupid enough to write that letter, explaining his loathing for the military. Chalk it up to arrogance.
28 posted on 03/18/2004 5:46:07 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: woodyinscc
Couldn't resist the chance to stick one in "the paper of (no) record."
29 posted on 03/18/2004 5:47:14 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Jewels1091
If they can just make Kerry have to defend against this, even if he has to deny being involved with the plot, it will raise' the entire fact that the VVAW was considering assassinations to an incredibly high public profile/ A lot of people who know nothing about it will have the issue loom huge in their field of vision and suddenly ask themselves-- 'Gee, who is this Kerry guy anyway?"
30 posted on 03/18/2004 5:48:14 PM PST by atomicpossum (Fun pics in my profile)
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To: Piranha
More flip flops...he led a group that wanted to kill Senators, and then he became one.

He only wanted to kill a senator before he DIDN'T want to kill one.

First, he DIDN'T want to be a senator, and then he DID. I see a big problem with Kerry. He is too consistent in his flip flopping.

31 posted on 03/18/2004 5:50:16 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Poohbah
Oh my. Is sock puppet David Wade lying to us about this?
32 posted on 03/18/2004 5:50:43 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Interesting Times
dang....even more stuff for me to report on now. Awesome.
33 posted on 03/18/2004 5:51:54 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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Re: The VVAW's November, 1971, Vote to Assassinate Seven Senators.

Senator Kerry's comment:

"I actually voted for the resolution before I voted against it."
34 posted on 03/18/2004 5:52:06 PM PST by Semi Civil Servant
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To: TomGuy
Very impressive.

This is truly a big story. I can count virtually every news value in this story and any journalist not covering this is doing so for only one reason: BIAS.
35 posted on 03/18/2004 5:53:37 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: Interesting Times
My question has been.........if he knew NOTHING about the assassination talk for 10 years after the incident, why is he STILL saying that he's PROUD to have belonged to that organization? Shouldn't he be ASHAMED?
36 posted on 03/18/2004 5:54:51 PM PST by nuconvert (CAUTION: I'm an acquaintance of someone labelled "an obstinate supporter of dangerous fantasies")
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To: mware
I thought that they decided instead of killing senators they were going to throw away their medals. Does it jive with the time frame.

Those were two different events.

Members of the VVAW threw their medals in Washington DC in April 1971 at Operation Dewey Canyon III, the protest at which where Kerry also told bogus tales of war crimes to the Senate. Scott Camil was evidently making noises about shooting people even then.

But at the November 1971 meeting in Kansas City, the VVAW leadership actually voted on a proposal to murder 6 or 7 U.S. Senators who supported the war. This appears not to have bothered John Kerry all that much...

37 posted on 03/18/2004 5:57:22 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Jewels1091
bump!
38 posted on 03/18/2004 5:57:30 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with high powered explosives.)
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To: rwfromkansas
Has anyone had the stomach to check out DU to see how they are spinning this? Although they can't say it, I imagine most of them are only disappointed that Kerry didn't go through with the plot.
39 posted on 03/18/2004 6:00:30 PM PST by John Thornton
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To: onyx
Can we post that photo wintersoldier.com has on their page?

I don't see why not.

40 posted on 03/18/2004 6:01:02 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Semi Civil Servant
>Re: The VVAW's November, 1971, Vote to Assassinate Seven Senators.

>>Senator Kerry's comment:
"I actually voted for the resolution before I voted against it."

That's really good. I think the line "I actually voted for the resolution before I voted against it." will have legs.
It's one for the ages, like "I didn't inhale".
41 posted on 03/18/2004 6:01:58 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: Interesting Times
For example, the New York Times identified Kerry as "spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War" in this article on January 11, 1972.

OK, read the linked NY Times article. It is referencing this speech Kerry gave at Dartmouth. There was a thread on it the other night:

In '72 speech, a different kind of Kerry. (** Criticized Nixon for seeking early return of POWs!!**)

EXCERPT:

In his 1972 speech, Kerry lashed at then-President Richard Nixon, claiming that he was personally responsible for over 130,000 Vietnam casualties a month, although Kerry also predicted reelection. He also criticized Nixon for trying to request the return of prisoners of war before the war ended. Ironically, Kerry has worked with Arizona Sen. John McCain on lingering Vietnam POW/MIA issues during their time in the Senate.

I want to read more about this speech.

42 posted on 03/18/2004 6:02:36 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Mo1
I really appreciate the ping.
43 posted on 03/18/2004 6:03:26 PM PST by cyncooper
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44 posted on 03/18/2004 6:04:52 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
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To: cyncooper
It appears that link is broken...
45 posted on 03/18/2004 6:05:30 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: cyncooper
Darn. Try this
46 posted on 03/18/2004 6:06:27 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Interesting Times
See 46
47 posted on 03/18/2004 6:07:05 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Interesting Times
In an earlier thread, comment was made about a Kerry interview with Dick Cavett (about 1972, IIRC). That interview tape has been unavailable. Based on the tone of the comments, that interview much be explosive.

Someone else posted that CSPAN is supposed to play that tape on Sunday.

FWIW (for what it's worth)
48 posted on 03/18/2004 6:07:09 PM PST by TomGuy (Kerry is scarey.)
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To: Interesting Times
try this...
49 posted on 03/18/2004 6:07:46 PM PST by DefCon
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To: OXENinFLA
PING!
50 posted on 03/18/2004 6:08:45 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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