Libya to Join US and UK In 'War on Terror'

The Financial Times of London ^ | Friday March 26, 2003 | Christoper Adams

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Libya on Thursday brought to an end decades of international isolation as a pariah state with a promise to join forces with the United States of America and the United Kingdom to fight the global war against terrorism.

It is to provide intelligence to help root out Al Qaeda and on Thursday secured a gas exploration deal with Shell that could be worth billions of dollars.

Tony Blair, UK Prime Minister, held two hours of talks with Col. Muammer Gadaffi in a bedroom tent a few miles outside of Tripoli, the first time a British leader has set foot in the country since 1943.

He emerged afterwords to declare the Libyan leader an important ally and urged other Arab countries to follow Tripoli's example.

The historic talks sealed a dramatic and rapid transformation of Libya's standing in the international community, a process that started in earnest in December when it unexpectedly renounced its pursuit of weapons of mass destuction.

That decision followed more than a year of secret negoiations with Britain and the US.

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They finally see the writing on the wall. And it doesn't hurt to sweeten the pot a bit!

[Indy Pendance]

Wow, this is huge news.

[threat matrix]

Should be 2004, not 2003 in the date obviously..

[Dog Gone]

Hey, that Bush Doctrine seems to work. Somebody tell the US media.

[ConservativeMan55]

Its about time Bump!

[Indy Pendance]

I figured that.

[threat matrix]

celebration ping!

[Rome2000]

I hear Arafat is going to replace Tom Ridge as Director of Homeland Security.

Arabs are treacherous evil liars.

The White House doesn't believe or trust Khadaffy.

They are just playing his game because it suits us, for the moment.

[threat matrix]

I'll take the intel if a Shell gas exploration contract will provide it.

Heck, they dont actually have to find anything!

[Paradox]

This is hyooge! I wonder if Kadaffi can survive this. He (and his country) will certainly be set upon by the terrorists.

[Argus]

Libyan sweet crude, 12 bucks a barrel.

[Mr. Mojo]

Hey, that Bush Doctrine seems to work. Somebody tell the US media.

Khaddafi's dramatic change and the Bush Doctrine are completely unrelated, according to the leftist media. They haven't yet come up with an explanation for Moammar's actions, but one presumes they think he just realized the error of his ways on his own.

My own take is that Khaddafi got wind of planned terrorist attacks against the U.S. (probably related to the the nuke material sold to our enemies recently discovered to be tied to a "rogue" Pakistani scientist), and he didn't want to be on our retaliation list if the fit ever hit the shan.

Whatever the reason for Khaddafi's turnabout, he made a smart move. .....and it was a direct result of his realization that the Bush administration isn't playing around in the WOT, and isn't afraid to use resort to using any option.

[StriperSniper]

Peace Mon!

[No Blue States]

Trust, But verify.

Or at least verify.

[Dog Gone]

My wife was living in Libya when Khaddafi staged his coup. Her family, like all foreigners, were expelled shortly thereafter.

She wants to return for a visit now that Libya and Khaddafi have come clean. She tells me the beaches are fabulous.

I marvel at how quickly the world can change. If you had told me in 1984 that in 20 years we'd be buddies with Poland, Romania, and Libya, I would have tried to get you into a psychiatric hospital.

[BJClinton]

He (and his country) will certainly be set upon by the terrorists.

Probably. But nobody could fight terrorists better than a former terrorist.

[ladyinred]

Well, hell has finally frozen over! :-)

[StriperSniper]

But nobody could fight terrorists better than a former terrorist.

That may be true, but wasn't it thinking like that, that stuck us with the Kennedys for all these years? ;-)

[JackRyanCIA]

"Arabs are treacherous evil liars."

Yep, something tells me this isn't right. Hope I'm wrong. I hope we don't start trusting this guy too much.

[BJClinton]

LOL. Hey, JFK wasn't too bad.

[ladyinred]

Hey, that Bush Doctrine seems to work. Somebody tell the US media.

Speaking of media. I was listening to the Peacenik radio station this afternnoon and the host of one of their terrible shows told about seeing Helen Thomas in a coffee shop after the 911 hearings.

She said she asked Helen if Clarke would do Bush in and Helen said, " Oh God, I hope so. We must get rid of that lying, murdering BASTARD!" Not biased at all, right?

[StriperSniper]

Got to admire his taste in women at the least.

[steveegg]

If John F'em Ke(rr)y or Algore were President, would Libya be joining our side in the War on Terror, even symbolically?

[Pipeline]

We really trust them that easily?? How naive.
I thought it was rather convenient that no WMD were found in Iraq but at the same time Lybia chooses to come clean and try to make nice with the civilized world by surrendering it's WMD's. Sounds to me like Hussein slipped them out the back door to Lybia whilst the UN was stalling the invasion, giving Lybia a nice stock pile that cost them nothing to surrender to the free world.
Meanwhile, hidden somewhere in the most remote reaches of North Africa lies the fruit of Lybia's labor to be sold on the black market.
I wouldn't be surprised if theres a nuke hidden somewhere in this peace offering.

[BJClinton]

Got to admire his taste in women at the least.

Absolutely. Compare Jackie-O to Hillary...*shudder* or Monroe to the Fat Intern...

[Dog Gone]

Helen is probably doing us more favors than she's doing harm. She's repulsive and so obviously biased that she can't ask a reasonable question, or write a column that would appeal to undecided voters.

Anyone who agrees with her or respects her is already entrenched in the Dark Side. She makes a great liberal spokesman.

[Mr. Mojo]

Although the Libyan gov't has indeed changed its tune and (hopefully) joined the civilized world, there are still quite a large # of nutty Islamists over there. .....so I think I'll wait a bit before thinking about surfing their beaches.

Yep, the change is incredible. .....the fall of the Soviets, the Islamization of Western Europe, the pro-American sentiments of many in Eastern Europe. Making those predctions in the early 80's would certainly elicited some laughs.

But in retrospect I think the most important event of the past quarter century was the fall of the Shah and the subsequent rise of radical Islam, and Carter's ineptitude in dealing with it from start to finish. It convinced Islamists that the U.S. can be messed with without consequence, and thus encouraged the spread of this disease that we're now trying desperately to eliminate.

[ladyinred]

The dark side is true, the host reporter person on this show is a wiccan and her response on air to Helen's comment was the infamous, "So mote it be!" :-)

[NutCrackerBoy]

We really trust them that easily?? How naive.

When inspectors oversee a cooperating disarmament, they look over all sorts of papers; the history of the equipment and stockpiles. The idea that Libya is giving up Saddam's secreted weapons is ridiculous.

Just as South Africa before showed what disarmament really looks like (compared to Iraq's deceptions), Pervez Musharraf's Pakistan shows what cooperative anti-terrorism looks like (compared to Iran's nothing). It's bloody.

[Dog Gone]

Jimmy Carter has the be the worst President in the 20th century, even worse than Clinton. There is nothing he touched that he didn't make worse, from Iran to the Panama Canal, not to mention the economy.

And not content to be pleased with the damage he did during his term, he has continued to screw things up in Haiti, North Korea, and Venezuela with his continued meddling. Enough with this loser. Lock him up at Gitmo.

[Mr. Mojo]

We must get rid of that lying, murdering BASTARD!" - Helen the Terrible

Murdering? I wondering if Helen was referring to the scores of Taliban, Al Qaeda, and other assorted terrorists killed under Bush's watch? Of course Clinton's bombing of innocent Christians attempting to defend themselves against Islamists in the Balkans was perfectly okay with her.....

[The G Man]

Holy crap ... you gotta be kidding me.

The Bush Doctrine etches itself even more deeply in the history books as the Clinton Legacy keeps getting smalllllllllller.

[Mr. Mojo]

Ex-Rat Presidents seem incapable of keeping their pieholes shut. Is it too much to ask them to exercise just a little dignity?

Ford, GHWB, Reagan (before his illness got bad), Nixon. .....all were dignified in retirement.

Carter is a wretched weasel, and I agree with you that he was probably the worst President since .......possibly ever.

[Moonman62]

Murdering? I wondering if Helen was referring to the scores of Taliban, Al Qaeda, and other assorted terrorists killed under Bush's watch?

Helen is preparing for an eternity in hell. She'll be cloned 72 times for each terrorist "martyr."

[No Blue States]

According to a report i heard on the radio, we have captured or killed 60% of AQ's top leadership.

But we are no safer. (eyes rolling)

[HairOfTheDog]

Can we have their old 'friends' list?

[elfman2]

"I wonder if Kadaffi can survive this. He (and his country) will certainly be set upon by the terrorists. "

As I remember, Libya’s like Cuba, cold war era Romania or Iraq last year. There’s near absolute control of the people from neighborhood cells that report up to cells above that report to cells above etc.. up to Kadaffi. There’s no room for descent or terrorism.

[KevinDavis]

Wha???

[dpwiener]

Libya's Gadaffi and Pakistan's Musharraf have both made very intelligent choices. Musharraf was smart enough to realize that Pakistan was high on the list of likely retaliatory targets after 9/11. Gadaffi was smart enough to realize that Libya would be high on the list of likely retaliatory targets if a future 9/11 happened. They both realized that the U.S. wasn't bluffing anymore, and that there would be lethal consequences for terrorist attacks on U.S. soil.

So each decided that his best hope for survival was to cooperate. And that meant cooperating fully. Half-hearted cooperation would just piss off both sides and gain nothing. Full cooperation would piss off the terrorists but would be rewarded by the U.S. and would safeguard them from U.S. retaliation. They both obviously concluded that U.S. enmity posed a greater risk than Al Queda enmity and the hostility of their own Islamist-sympathizing citizens.

So I don't see Gadaffi's actions as a trick. He's made his choice, and there's no going back. Now he might as well go all the way in joining the War on Terrorism so as to reap the benefits (e.g., the Shell deal).

[NutCrackerBoy]

There’s near absolute control of the people from neighborhood cells that report up to cells above that report to cells above etc.. up to Kadaffi. There’s no room for [dissent] or terrorism.

Good point. If there is a downside to Qaddafi's moves, it is a boost in legitimacy to an oppressive dictatorship. Though, I understand that there are some reforms in the offing that will bring more freedom to the populace.

[MJY1288]

What's Col. Muammer Gadaffi gonna do to help us in the war on terror! kill himself?

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

She said she asked Helen if Clarke would do Bush in and Helen said, " Oh God, I hope so. We must get rid of that lying, murdering BASTARD!"

Somehow, I don't think that God would agree.

[Chummy]

"Ex-Rat Presidents seem incapable of keeping their pieholes shut. Is it too much to ask them to exercise just a little dignity?..."

Thy would have to have dignity in the first place before thinking of them exercising just a little after they depart the Oval Office.

Carter's lusting after women, fighting the bunny wabbit, and malaise that sunk a nation. Johnson's exposure of his surgical scars. Clinton lurking in the White House hallways and cavorting at his desk. Kennedy with Marilyn.

These are a few of my absolutely least favorite things.

[Alouette]

Muammar wants a gig on "Queer Eye for the Muslim Guy"

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[ She said she asked Helen if Clarke would do Bush in and Helen said, " Oh God, I hope so. We must get rid of that lying, murdering BASTARD!" Not biased at all, right? ]

She said she asked Helen if Clarke
would do Bush in and Helen said, " Oh God,
I hope so. We must get rid of that lying, murderer
BASTARD!" but Not biased at all, right?

(2 more lines) Hummm...

Thats why the lady is a tramp..
(drum roll)

[FreedomCalls]

Can we have Wheelus AFB back? At one time it was SAC's biggest overseas base.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Libya on Thursday brought to an end decades of international isolation as a pariah state with a promise to join forces with the United States of America and the United Kingdom to fight the global war against terrorism

Well, Libya's taking the Bush Doctrine seriously.

If only the DemonRats would the world would be a safer place.

[shield]

Looks good, doesn't it? I'll be surprised if we get much out of him, but it does look good. Bushes' 'War on Terror' is working, no matter how the rats spin it.

[No Blue States]

Your post really opened my eyes on this issue. Great points. Neither Musharraf nor Gadaffi will be forgiven by the terrorists and their supporters, so there is no going back for them.

And the general populace couldnt have been included in some vast conspiracy.

After several AQ assassination attempts on Mush I was pretty sure which side he was really on, but had been skeptical of Gadaffi. (I will reserve a trace of that skepticism though.

[No.6]

Strategery bump for later.