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MoveOn Balks at Proposed FEC Rules Changes by Scaring Nonprofits (FEC Email Needs FReeping! NOW!)
Talon News ^ | April 2, 2004 | Jimmy Moore

Posted on 04/02/2004 9:27:16 AM PST by ElephantMan

SPARTANBURG, SC (Talon News) -- Liberal anti-Bush online political activist group MoveOn.org sent a warning message to its members this week regarding the upcoming ruling by the Federal Election Commission about the legality of so-called 527 groups accepting soft campaign contributions to run political ads.

"The Republican National Committee is pressing the Federal Election Commission to issue new rules that would cripple groups that dare to communicate with the public in any way critical of President Bush or members of Congress," MoveOn.org charged in an e-mail to supporters.

In the e-mail, MoveOn.org attempts to scare "conservative, progressive, labor, religious, secular, social service, charitable, educational, civic participation, [and] issue-oriented" groups into believing the rule changes will be detrimental to their cause by alleging that the ruling will prevent them from speaking out on issues.

However, the Republican National Committee, along with President George W. Bush's reelection campaign, has filed a complaint with the FEC over the connection of specific 527 groups like MoveOn.org and the campaign of likely Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry.

Jill Holtzman Vogel, chief counsel for the RNC, said evidence of coordination between MoveOn.org and other Democratic-supporting 527 groups and the Kerry campaign in violation of the new campaign finance law could not be clearer.

"Senator Kerry, who supported the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform Act, is now the beneficiary of the single largest conspiracy to violate campaign finance laws in history," she explained in issuing the complaint to the FEC.

In fact, the Massachusetts senator explained when he voted for the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law that he supported it because he wanted "to eliminate altogether the capacity of soft money to play the role that it does in our politics."

Yet, MoveOn.org is now operating illegally as an extension of the Kerry campaign because they accept soft money from corporations and unions, which represents an evasion of the ban on large, unregulated contributions in the new campaign finance law, critics argue.

For example, MoveOn.org has been giving Kerry plenty of free campaign ads by running a relentless schedule of political attack ads against Bush for months using donations from liberal billionaires such as George Soros and others.

Nevertheless, MoveOn.org tells its supporters that any action conducted by the FEC regarding donations to various MoveOn.org fundraising efforts will not be traced back to the specific donors.

Blaming unnamed "operatives" in the nation's capitol for "displaying a terrifying disregard for the values of free speech and openness which underlie our democracy," MoveOn.org states the FEC complaint by the RNC and the Bush campaign is a blatant attempt to squelch attacks against Bush.

"Essentially, they are willing to pay any price to stop criticism of Bush," the e-mail continued.

MoveOn.org is encouraging its members to send the FEC public comments along with the sender's full name, e-mail address, and mailing address to Acting Assistant General Counsel Mai T. Dinh by April 9 at politicalcommitteestatus@fec.gov.

In fact, MoveOn.org has requested to see a copy of the messages sent to the FEC.

"We'd love to see a copy of your public comment," MoveOn.org explains, although the group did not indicate whether it wants to receive comments that would support the new rules changes.

Nevertheless, the leftist political group writes, "Please e-mail us a copy [of your comments to the FEC] at FECcomment@moveon.org."

The e-mail lists the names and telephone numbers of the e-mail recipient's two U.S. senators as well as the recipient's U.S. congressman.

Charging the Bush administration with orchestrating an "unholy alliance" with the FEC, MoveOn.org announced the formation of the FEC Working Group to identify "examples of specific consequence for nonprofit groups."

"It's outrageous," MoveOn.org opines.

Nonprofit groups, MoveOn.org warns, who advocate positions for or against congressmen or the president's positions on the issues would be deemed as political groups and be subjected to the laws imposed on them.

"Such changes would cripple the ability of groups to raise and spend funds in pursuit of their mission and could be so ruinous that organizations would be forced to back away from meaningful conversations about public policies that affect millions of Americans," MoveOn.org states.

Groups that would be affected, MoveOn.org adds, include 501(c)(4) advocacy groups, 501(c)(3) charitable groups, labor unions, trade associations, environmental groups, 501 (c)(6) groups, and 527 political action committee groups, such as MoveOn.org.

Also included in the list of affected organizations, according to MoveOn.org, are religious groups that pass out voting record pamphlets, voter registration groups, pro-life groups spreading communication about a lawmaker's position on abortion and civil rights groups.

A public hearing by the FEC is scheduled to take place on April 14-15. A final decision on the rules changes will be made by mid-May and would go into effect by July.

MoveOn.org states the changes could be made retroactive to January 2003.

"It's clear that these rules would immediately silence thousands of groups, of all types, who have raised questions and criticisms of any kind about the Bush Administration, its record and its policies," MoveOn.org concludes, alleging this is nothing more than an election year ploy by the Bush campaign to silence his critics.

If the new rules changes are allowed to go into effect, groups like MoveOn.org will no longer be allowed to use soft campaign contributions to attack the president or any other elected official.

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To: ElephantMan
Have you thought about the fact that this will also cripple the Club for Growth, Grassfire, The Rifle Association, Right to Life, and a host of conservative groups.

Free speech for me but not for thee doesn't work too well.
21 posted on 04/02/2004 12:57:25 PM PST by Gen. Longstreet
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To: ServesURight
"What if the FEC rules that it's in fact illegal? Then what happens "

The press and Democrats will scream that the law is unfair. We magnaminoulsly consent to have it repealed. Then we out-spend them ten to one in soft money ads.

22 posted on 04/02/2004 1:59:52 PM PST by bayourod (We can depend on Scary Kerry's imaginary foreign leaders to protect us from terrorists.)
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To: CalKat
That's CalKat. Never take a position that supports the RNC but defend the DNC. We get it.
23 posted on 04/02/2004 2:32:37 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
And what position was I taking? Perhaps you can find a community college in your area and learn to read.
24 posted on 04/02/2004 2:37:45 PM PST by CalKat
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To: CalKat
Since the day you have joined this forum you have yet to make ONE post that defends the RNC or the conservative position.

Moby....
25 posted on 04/02/2004 2:39:24 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
blah blah blah

Peachy....
26 posted on 04/02/2004 2:41:05 PM PST by CalKat
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To: CalKat
I wonder if the RNC included the conservative groups which run similar ads in their FEC complaint.

It's so interesting you can't name ONE conservative group that is running a similar ad.

27 posted on 04/02/2004 2:41:56 PM PST by Peach
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To: ElephantMan
Interesting that Move On did an ad supporting Senator Ketchup's "economic plan" (in some detail) before Senator Ketchup released it. But I'm sure there is no coordination whatsoever, right?
28 posted on 04/02/2004 2:42:24 PM PST by TBP
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To: Peach
What makes you think I can't name one conservative group that is running a similar ad? I could name Citizens United, which is running the Kerry "priceless" ad. You make so many assumptions, and you know what they say about that...
29 posted on 04/02/2004 2:45:32 PM PST by CalKat
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To: bayourod
A friend of mine sent this to me via email a couple of weeks ago. I haven't been able to confirm it, but it sure is interesting:

Link Between Moveon And Kerry?

Do identical donation pages tracking unique team numbers show relationship between John Kerry's campaign and MoveOn.org?

Judge Napolitano on The big Story on Fox News just showed a Letter from Moveon asking for contributions to John Kerry with a link. That link ended in Team=437 at the end of the link.

Now go to: http://www.Johnkerry.com and highlight the "Make a Contribution Link": /contribute3.johnkerry.co...l?team=138 It says team=138.

The Donation pages are identical in nature, form, and function in the sense they track the donations back to moveon.

Therefore they are tracking donations specific from Moveon thus applying a causal relationship between the two of them.

It is interesting that the PAC donation section on moveon no longer has a team number attached, but the letter shown on Fox did.

How did they get assigned a team number for contributions of Team Number 437 if they are not in a relationship?

Looking at the HTML source and at the link at the end of this sentence: Contribute to Senator Kerry's Presidential campaign here. It still shows a "team=349" URL like this:

Contribute to Senator Kerry's Presidential campaignhere

So, one has to ask the question: Who assigned Moveon.org the "Team=349" for use on their PAC page?

30 posted on 04/02/2004 2:48:06 PM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: CalKat
I realize this is a nuance you will not understand, but from the article above:

"Jill Holtzman Vogel, chief counsel for the RNC, said evidence of coordination between MoveOn.org and other Democratic-supporting 527 groups and the Kerry campaign in violation of the new campaign finance law could not be clearer."

There is not similar coordination between the Bush administration and Citizens United. BIG difference.

31 posted on 04/02/2004 3:09:57 PM PST by Peach
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To: ElephantMan
Sent my e-mail to Mai T. Dinh!

DD
32 posted on 04/02/2004 3:57:27 PM PST by DiamondDon1 (Card carrying Member VRWC)
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To: ElephantMan
"Nevertheless, MoveOn.org tells its supporters that any action conducted by the FEC regarding donations to various MoveOn.org fundraising efforts will not be traced back to the specific donors."

Does anyone really believe this? After all the missing documents from the clinton administration?
33 posted on 04/02/2004 3:59:59 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Peach; CalKat
You truly don;t know WTF is going on...
34 posted on 04/02/2004 4:04:53 PM PST by sauropod (Life is too short to read articles written by Upper West Side twits)
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To: sauropod
You sound so intelligent when you talk like that.

We have seen the direct linkage between MoveOn.org and the Kerry campaign.

Why don't you provide a similar linkage between the Bush admin. and the RNC group mentioned by CalKat, if you can? You can't, of course.
35 posted on 04/02/2004 4:27:44 PM PST by Peach
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To: ElephantMan
Why don't we see Johnny McCain raising hell over the violations of his pet C.F.R. law?
36 posted on 04/02/2004 4:35:59 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: ElephantMan
Even a stopped clock is right 2 times a day.

If (a great big IF, here) the Bush Administration is, indeed, trying to increase the restrictions on political speech, then they should stop, now.

I don't like Moveon.org at all. I'm convinced that they are a Communist front for the far left of the Democrats.


But, if they aren't allowed by law to criticise the President or the local dog catcher, then neither am I or you.


The campaign finance laws have already gone too far.


Wouldn't it be great if the Communists spent more of their money and the results were to kill McCain/Feingold?
37 posted on 04/02/2004 4:45:59 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: hocndoc
oops, "neither *are* you and I..."
38 posted on 04/02/2004 4:47:53 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Peach
*Yawn*
39 posted on 04/02/2004 4:49:18 PM PST by sauropod (Life is too short to read articles written by Upper West Side twits)
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To: ElephantMan
There is a flip side to all this. Republican groups are being reigned in till the matter is decided.

It seems to me to be a win win fork manuver.

If the movement is stopped, lots of rat money and hopes are down the drain.

If it is allowed to continue, untold numbers of Republican groups including an unknown number right here can be formed and there is no telling the havoc on the rats that will result.
40 posted on 04/02/2004 4:57:01 PM PST by bert (Save People.... Kill Terrorists)
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