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Document: Oklahoma City Bombing Was Taped
AP via Yahoo! ^ | April 19, 2004 | John Solomon

Posted on 04/19/2004 1:23:06 PM PDT by RippleFire

WASHINGTON - A Secret Service document written shortly after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing described security video footage of the attack and witness testimony that suggested Timothy McVeigh (news - web sites) may have had accomplices at the scene.

"Security video tapes from the area show the truck detonation 3 minutes and 6 seconds after the suspects exited the truck," the Secret Service reported six days after the attack on a log of agents' activities and evidence in the Oklahoma investigation.

The government has insisted McVeigh drove the truck himself and that it never had any video of the bombing or the scene of the Alfred P. Murrah building in the minutes before the April 19, 1995, explosion.

Several investigators and prosecutors who worked the case told The Associated Press they had never seen video footage like that described in the Secret Service log.

The document, if accurate, is either significant evidence kept secret for nine years or a misconstrued recounting of investigative leads that were often passed by word of mouth during the hectic early days of the case, they said.

"I did not see it," said Danny Defenbaugh, the retired FBI (news - web sites) agent who ran the Oklahoma City probe. "If it shows what it says, then it would be significant."

Secret Service spokesman Charles Bopp declined to discuss the video footage reference, saying it would be addressed by witnesses later this week at the capital murder trial of McVeigh co-defendant Terry Nichols. "It is anticipated Secret Service employees will testify in court concerning these matters," he said.

Other documents obtained by AP show the Secret Service in late 1995 gave prosecutors several computer disks of enhanced digital photographs of the Murrah building, intelligence files on several subjects in the investigation and a file detailing an internal affairs inquiry concerning an agent who reconstructed key phone evidence against McVeigh.

"These abstract sheets are sensitive documents which we have protected from disclosure in the past," said a Secret Service letter that recounted discussions in late 1995 with federal prosecutors on what evidence would be turned over to defense lawyers.

Lawyers for Nichols say they have never been given the security video, photo disks or internal investigative file referenced in the documents.

The trial judge has threatened to dismiss the death penalty case if evidence was withheld. McVeigh was executed in 2001 on a separate federal conviction. Nichols was sentenced to life in prison on federal charges before being tried by the state this year.

The government has maintained for years that McVeigh parked the Ryder rental truck carrying a massive fertilizer bomb outside the Murrah building and left alone in a getaway car he parked around the corner. The bombing killed more than 160 people.

The only video prosecutors introduced at trial showed the Ryder truck without any visible passengers as it passed a security camera inside a high-rise apartment building a block away from the Murrah building.

But the Secret Service log reported on April 24 and April 25, 1995, that there was security footage showing the Ryder truck pulling up to the Murrah building. The log does not say where such video came from or who possessed it.

A log entry on April 25 states that the security footage allowed agents to determine the time that elapsed between suspects leaving the truck and the explosion.

An entry a day earlier on the same log reported that the security video was consistent with a witness' account that he saw McVeigh's getaway car in the lead before a woman guided the truck to its final parking spot in front of the Murrah building.

"A witness to the explosion named Grossman claimed to have seen a pale yellow Mercury car with a Ryder truck behind it pulling up to the federal building," the log said. The witness "further claimed to have seen a woman on the corner waving to the truck."

A Secret Service agent named McNally "noted that this fact is significant due to the fact that the security video shows the Ryder truck pulling up to the Federal Building and then pausing (7 to 10 seconds) before resuming into the slot in front of the building," the log said. "It is speculated that the woman was signaling the truck when a slot became available."

Defenbaugh said the FBI had talked to several witnesses suggesting two people had left the truck, but prosecutors never introduced the scenario at trial because it couldn't be corroborated. That's why a new security video would be significant, he said.

"It would have taken the investigation in a very specific direction," Defenbaugh said. "Rather than having to go down an eight-lane highway during rush hour, we would have gone down a faster path with just two or four lanes."

Defenbaugh said the FBI kept a log similar to the Secret Service document inside the Oklahoma City investigation command center that might help solve the mystery of the video. Justice officials declined to discuss documents, citing the ongoing Nichols' trial.

In addition to the witness mentioned in the Secret Service document, a woman working in Murrah's Social Security (news - web sites) office who was rescued from the rubble and a driver outside the building both reported to the FBI seeing two men leave the truck, according to government documents.

The Secret Service (news - web sites) log contained other information about the case — including that McVeigh made 30 calls to an Illinois gun dealer in the months before the attacks to seek dynamite and that the gun dealer subsequently failed a lie detector test. The Secret Service lost six employees in McVeigh's bombing, the single largest loss in agency history.

Nichols' attorneys last week asked the judge to dismiss the case on grounds the government withheld evidence, including the security video footage.

New documents obtained by AP show the Secret Service provided prosecutors other evidence that may not have been provided to defense lawyers, including a file showing the Secret Service agent who reconstructed crucial phone evidence against McVeigh was subjected to an internal affairs investigation and eventually cleared for her conduct in the case.

FBI officials say that file details allegations the agent wrongly collected grand jury-subpoenaed phone information about McVeigh's calls without FBI knowledge, and kept it for weeks while she produced analysis that helped the investigation.

The internal investigation caused complications for prosecutors. They decided it tainted the agent as a witness and they chose instead to hire an outside expert to re-do the phone analysis for trial, officials said.

Bopp said the Secret Service did nothing wrong.

"The Secret Service worked cooperatively with the FBI and other federal state and local law enforcement throughout the investigation," Bopp said. "The expertise of the Secret Service on electronic crimes and telecommunications provided unique and timely information to the ongoing investigation."

On the Net:

The FBI: http://www.fbi.gov

The documents obtained by The Associated Press can be viewed at http://wid.ap.org/documents/okc/okcdoc2.pdf


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To: Truth666
I'm going to assume your sentence structure is classical. Let me interpret in modern English:

Timothy McVeigh murdered the innocent.

101 posted on 04/19/2004 3:01:45 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Victor
Yep, that's the interns name. Thanks.

Gawd, the stuff on that pack of jackals in the Clinton pack is so rich. There is so much of it you just put it out of your mind to make room for the grocery list.

102 posted on 04/19/2004 3:02:02 PM PDT by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: RippleFire
HILLARY CLINTON WILL NEVER WIN ANOTHER US ELECTION, period!
103 posted on 04/19/2004 3:02:09 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: theFIRMbss
Mc Veigh has a written manifesto of sorts explaining his views. He says absolutely nothing about white supremacy, militias, or anything else we have been spoon fed to believe.

He rants about Iraq, and the 'unjust' American policies in place at the time.
104 posted on 04/19/2004 3:02:36 PM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: randog
Make that FORMER Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating. The man made my skin crawl.
105 posted on 04/19/2004 3:03:55 PM PDT by OkieDokieSmokie
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To: okkev68
That gives me great comfort when I am explaining to my kids about what happened to their "grammy". What an honorable man. It makes my moms death so much easier to handle.

I have much the same problem trying to explain the circumstances which overtook my own uncle. Appreciate the possibility that Mcveigh was a soldier and died like one, and was doing what he saw as his duty, and was betrayed as much as your kids' grammy was, and if the resulting picture will not become any easier to accept, it will at least be a clearer one.

106 posted on 04/19/2004 3:04:08 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: archy
Interesting.

The memo says "Jennifer McVeigh returned to Buffalo, NY tonight..."

From where?
107 posted on 04/19/2004 3:04:35 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: okkev68
I was there. Twice the police told us to run because they found more bombs. My dad got right up to the building within about 5-10 minutes before they shut it all down and moved people away. We never got within two blocks after that.

And strangely enough, it only took the government a month to sort everthing out and demolish the building.

Funny that they took all the debris, trucked it to a large pit then covered it with CONCRETE!

Nah, nothing strange about that, unless of course you think covering up evidence is strange.

Since you evidently live(d) in the area, did you get local coverage that was less lock-step than the national media? I mean these guys managed to arrest the 'lone-gunman' within hours and solve everything in a few days.

Wow.

I have heard that the local grand jury uncovered many more facts that were simply ignored by the national presstitutes.

108 posted on 04/19/2004 3:05:23 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: ravingnutter
A lot of people are also stil waiting for McVeigh's notebooks from his car which had a few Iraqi phone numbers..(which the FBI conveniently seemed to lose in the investigation)

That and the Nichols phone calls to the Phillipines to some shady Al Qaeda types are what Rep. Burton has trying to get to the bottom of for a long time

109 posted on 04/19/2004 3:05:39 PM PDT by threat matrix
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To: All
Click here and scroll about halfway down to download Jayna Davis' interview on FNC this morning.
110 posted on 04/19/2004 3:06:17 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: RippleFire
Are we finally going to get to the bottom of the OKC bombing cover-up?
111 posted on 04/19/2004 3:06:31 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: RippleFire
So why is this stuff coming out now? I thought people were going to let these sleeping dogs lie. Is this a shot across the RAT bow because of their election year shenanigan?
112 posted on 04/19/2004 3:06:40 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"In the lone-nut scenario when did McVeigh park the get away car nearby and how did he get back to the truck?"

Reportedly, McVeigh and Nichols drove to Oklahoma in separate cars two or three days prior, McVeigh parked the Merc and returned to Kansas in Nichols' vehicle.

113 posted on 04/19/2004 3:08:33 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: okkev68

And strangely enough, it only took the government a month to sort everything out and demolish the building.

Could this read: "...only took the Clinton Government a month to cover the evidence of planted explosive & an Iraqi operative?"

114 posted on 04/19/2004 3:08:58 PM PDT by madison10 (Proud member of RAM since 1978.)
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To: Diogenesis
There's a reason the dems could'nt allow their "go to" girl, Jamie to answer questions under oath.
115 posted on 04/19/2004 3:09:27 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: Conservababe
yes, but Conservababe, do you remember Mike McCarville broadcasting on KTOK that the FBI was looking for a brown chevy pickup carrying three (3) middle eastern men?
116 posted on 04/19/2004 3:10:03 PM PDT by job (Dinsdale?Dinsdale?)
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To: upchuck
I am not a conspiracy theorist either. I'm former LEO, a successful businessman, a semi-successful film maker, father of four, church goer, etc....mature, sober, sensible.

BUT, @ 1983/84 I was pumping gas at the local Exxon and a white van pulled up at the adjacent pump. The panel door slid open and a black-jump-suited guy got out. He was armed. He slid the door closed as he pumped gas but I did catch a glimpse of a couple others just like him inside. I watched him from six feet away. He met my eye with a look that was half embarassment at having to be seen and half "You're not really seeing me, I'm not here.".

It was not until ten years or more later that I first heard of the infamous "white vans" (probably here). To quote Lou Costello..."I know what I saw when I saw it"

117 posted on 04/19/2004 3:10:30 PM PDT by wtc911 (Europe without God plus islam = Eurabia)
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To: archy
Click here = Clinton Scandals - so many it needed its own page!

Click here = Clinton Arkancide Analysis List Murder, Inc.

118 posted on 04/19/2004 3:11:34 PM PDT by Diogenesis (We do what we are meant to do)
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To: demlosers
That's my observation. The democrats are plying rough and Bush is going to counterpunch with their own legacy which until now he had been sitting on nice and quiet-like. Which by the way I am furious with Bush over. He had been honoring traditions which those benefeiting from the honor deserved instead to be indicted.

Shame on Bush. I understand it, but evil is such and should not be ignored. An incompetent harmless moron like Carter I can see honoring tradition over, but the Clintons actions barr them from being treated with tradition.

119 posted on 04/19/2004 3:13:07 PM PDT by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: blackdog
Well, there is a federal investigation into Hillary's campaign financing. I think it was a message from Bush to the Clintons...you should have stayed out of it.
120 posted on 04/19/2004 3:16:31 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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