No more appeasement: Joseph Farah tells how Thomas Jefferson ended Islamic terrorism

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, April 27, 2004 | Joseph Farah

[Travis McGee]

The war in which we fight today is the longest conflict in human history. It's time to learn from history, not repeat its mistakes.

[PetroniusMaximus]

***The war in which we fight today is the longest conflict in human history.***


Indeed it is!


"You shall name him Ishmael,
for the LORD has heard of your misery.
He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone's hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers."

[hedgetrimmer]

Just started reading about this in a book called "The Commodores". To defend American ships and interests against the Algerian blackmailers was one reason the United States Congress approved the creation of a federal navy. The original navy was commissioned with exactly the ships and firepower Congress felt was needed to overpower the Algerians and stop the kidnapping and ransome of Americans and American merchant ships.

[Spirited]

Guess the current President is not an historian.
So we waffle.

[Grampa Dave]

You sound like the real waffle, al Querry.

Your hatred of the president has destroyed your ability to think!

You want a waffle go to your buddy al Querry.

[Texasforever]

It wasn't until 1801, under the presidency of Jefferson, that the U.S. engaged in what became a four-year war against Tripoli

This is not quite correct. Jefferson was dragged kicking and screaming into the Barbary Wars. It was Congress that told him to get off his duff and do something. He had refused to do anything until Congress "declared war" a point that Hamilton belittled him over since the BP had already declared war. Jefferson only acted when Congress passed a joint resolution directing him to take action. That joint resolution was the model used for the WOT congressional joint resolution.

[Texasforever]

You sound like the real waffle, al Querry.

The article is historically inaccurate.

[Moonman62]

What Sept. 11 did to the U.S. economy in 2001, the mass shipjacking of 1793 did to the fledgling U.S. economy in that year.

911 didn't have much of a negative effect on our economy. If anything, it got Greenspan to take his boot off the economy's neck.

[pt17]

The article is historically inaccurate

How so?

[ccmay]

What's the moral of the story?

Easy. Christendom must suppress Islam in the harshest manner. The Mohammedan fiend must always have our boot on his filthy throat.

[gracex7]

Interesting article. I always wondered what we had done 'to the shores of Tripoli'.

I suppose a pacifist would denigrate Jefferson's actions by saying that 9-11 never would have happened if we had just rolled over and surrendered all those years ago. (I noticed that they refered to themselves as "mujahiddin", which is the same name the Afghanis used who fought against the Soviet invasion.)

[Barset]

Thank you for posting this. It makes sense to view the Islamic jihad against the West as a continuum and not as a series of isolated incidents.

Since the eighteenth century the West's wars have been limited in purpose, colonies, independence, trade routes, etc., and lacked the religious fervor or frenzy of wars in the middle ages.

Islam, though, over centuries, has never lost its focus, the conversion or complete destruction of non-Islamic people.

We are not fighting a "war on terror" but skirmishes to quell the most violent and dangerous jihadists, while the "moderate" Muslims stake out their bases within the nations of the West to await the final suicide of the West.

Judging by the the abortion worshippers' mass indulgence in the pornography of infanticide last weekend, Islam has not long to wait.

[Brilliant]

Good read.

[oh8eleven]

And just who did we send to Tripoli?

1805 - U.S. Marines assemble a fleet to Derna, Tripoli to put down Barbary Coast pirates taking a toll on American merchant ships in the Mediterranean. Lieutenant Presley O'Bannon and his Marines marched across 600 miles of North Africa's Libyan Desert to successfully storm the fortified Tripolitan City of Derna. Marines today sing about the victory in the second line of their hymn: "to the shores of Tripoli." The Marine Corps officer sword, adopted in 1826 and used today, is modeled after the Mameluke scimitar given to O'Bannon in appreciation.

They marched 600 miles across the desert and still kicked butt! Semper Fi ...

[jslade]

"From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of TRIPOLI" Where have I heard those words before?

[ought-six]

"The article is historically inaccurate." You replied: "How so?"

Well, everybody knows thatthe Pirates are from Pittsburgh, not Barbary (although they may have a farm club in Barbary).

[ought-six]

"Islam, though, over centuries, has never lost its focus, the conversion or complete destruction of non-Islamic people. We are not fighting a 'war on terror' but skirmishes to quell the most violent and dangerous jihadists, while the 'moderate' Muslims stake out their bases within the nations of the West to await the final suicide of the West."

That's a fact.

[GBA]

Here's a "Thanks for posting this!" bump. A very interesting read!

[pt17]

Well, everybody knows thatthe Pirates are from Pittsburgh, not Barbary (although they may have a farm club in Barbary).

LOL, of course, how stupid of me.