After Win, Specter Looks To Fall Election (already distancing himself from Bush)

Associated Press | April 29, 2004 | Lara Jakes Jordon

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you don't get it, specters "maybe vote" is not needed! we are going to pick up at LEAST 2 more seats in the senate so tossing specter is a WIN!!

You don’t get it. You can’t vote “maybe” in the Senate anymore than you can vote “not proven.”

You can vote “Yes.” You can vote “No.” Or you can choose not to vote.

The stupid Scotsman will vote with the GOP 30-40% of the time. There will be some times where his vote is needed. He won’t always give us that vote. The Dem never will.

And BTW, how do you KNOW we are going to pick up two other seats. Are you The Amazing Kreskin?

[jwalsh07]

Here's a nightmare scenario:

Specter wins his election. Hatch, being term limited, steps down as Chair of Judiciary with Specter next in line for that important seat.

Bush loses PA and the election.

Specter, legacy driven, gets a wild hair about "bipartisanship" and shaping the courts to his particular liberal brand of politics works with Kerry and the dems to stack the Supremes with pro abortion, anti gun penumbra loving judges.

Bush made a mistake, a big mistake. The notion that Specter will be beholding to anything conservative is pathetic.

[The kings dead]

If necessary, we can bump Specter from the Chair and put Kyl in his place.

Who's "we"? Are you having delusions of being a trusted White House adviser?

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So it's the certainty of a pro-abort chairing the committee if Specter wins versus the possibility of a pro-abort chairing the committee if Specter loses.

If a Specter loss causes the GOP to lose the Senate, and all the committee chairs, you’ll have a lot more to worry about than abortion.

Tons more.

[The kings dead]

I saw George Bush dump Trent Lott when Lott became an obstacle to his agenda.

So we know he can cave in to liberals. Where's the evidence that he will ever cave in to conservatives?

[gdc61]

sorry my jab at specter went over your head.

If you had any knowledge of the elections or are a current member of FR. you would have to know of what I speak, or your just an idiot.

[guitfiddlist]

By the stars, I swear if he resumes his back-stabbing - I hope every last PA voter votes Hawful in. Better to have an enemy in front of you than in your camp.

[Cicero]

Supporting Specter was a big, big, big mistake. He will NOT help Bush on any of the key votes.

At this point, it would be better to vote for the Democrat next fall and shovel this piece of horse manure out of the senate and the judiciary committee.

[republicanwizard]

Calm down and get some self-control. You are making a fool out of yourself.

There is a 75% probability that Specter will vote for the Bush appointees. There is a 0% probability that Joe Hoeffel will vote for the Bush appointees. Even if we pick up two Senate seats in the south, one of them, from Georgia, will have no net effect.

Now, I'm pretty sure that when the decisive selection comes, Collins, Snowe, and Chafee will bolt. That would take us down from 51 Senators right now to 48 Senators. While we may have two or even four more votes in the South, I'd prefer to have that extra guy just in case.

[The kings dead]

So it's the certainty of a pro-abort chairing the committee if Specter wins versus the possibility of a pro-abort chairing the committee if Specter loses.

If a Specter loss causes the GOP to lose the Senate, and all the committee chairs, you’ll have a lot more to worry about than abortion.

Yes, if.

[republicanwizard]

Yeah, God forbid a Republican condemn racist remarks.

[republicanwizard]

In general. I'm a Republican, if you are not.

[gdc61]

....If a Specter loss causes the GOP to lose the Senate, and all the committee chairs, you’ll have a lot more to worry about than abortion.....
exactly which senate seats will we lose ??? except hopfully specters. no other (R) seats are in any trouble.

You should study up on something before you speak

[republicanwizard]

Get with it. Reagan last won an election in 1984. That was 20 years ago. Most Southern Democrats have converted. Most Northern Reagan Democrats have moved to Florida or are now worried about getting their medicare and social security checks.

Check the calendar. If you don't have one, I'll buy you one.

[gdc61]

ouch!!! but in this situation i will endure the pain. ;^)

[The kings dead]

There is a 75% probability that Specter will vote for the Bush appointees.

"A flavor of what pro-life nominees can expect from Specter was provided at a recent hearing on William Pryor of Alabama. Democrats attacked Pryor as too conservative, Republicans rebutted the charges. Then, towards the end of the hearing, Arlen Specter showed up...and attacked Pryor. His questioning especially tried to paint Pryor as extreme on abortion. He grilled Pryor about strong pro-life statements he had made outside of the courtroom, clearly expecting Pryor to back away from his pro-life views. (He didn't.) By the end, Specter had done more damage to Pryor than any Democrat had." - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1124702/posts

[republicanwizard]

And how about Estrada, Owens, and Pickering?

You exhibit, once again, your selective, faulty memory.

And, pray tell, how did Specter vote on Pryor?

[Lancey Howard]

Specter has long enjoyed support within liberal-leaning unions and abortion-rights groups, and predicted he would attract Democrats and independents. He said he could help Bush in the fall by pulling moderates to the GOP ticket.

Sometimes you have to take a step back in order to walk around the pile of dog feces you were about to step in. I cast my last vote for Jim Greenwood in 1994, and I cast my last vote for Arlen Specter 6 years ago. I'm through with him. If the Democrat wins, so be it. The GOP needs a little cleansing right now, and the Specter stain is a good place to start.

[The kings dead]

I saw George Bush dump Trent Lott when Lott became an obstacle to his agenda.

So we know he can cave in to liberals. Where's the evidence that he will ever cave in to conservatives?

Yeah, God forbid a Republican condemn racist remarks.

Condemn, fine. But dump him? And how many liberals did he win over by doing so?

[The kings dead]

If necessary, we can bump Specter from the Chair and put Kyl in his place.

Who's "we"? Are you having delusions of being a trusted White House adviser?

In general. I'm a Republican

Which by itself gives you bupkus for influence over the chairmanship.