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Parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo Told to Pay to See Their Daughter
The Terri Schindler Foundation ^ | May 7, 2004 | Terri Foundation

Posted on 05/07/2004 3:23:12 PM PDT by amdgmary

Parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo Told to Pay to See Their Daughter

Clearwater, FL May 7, 2004: In yet another bizarre twist of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo case, the Schindler family was informed that they must now pay a fee for “security” each time that they want to visit their daughter.

On Wednesday, May 5, 2004, Deborah Bushnell of Dunedin, an attorney representing Michael Schiavo, faxed a letter to attorneys representing the parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In her communication, Ms. Bushnell recommended that Ms. Schiavo's parents could be permitted to visit their disabled daughter if they would agree to hire an off-duty police person to accompany them. This comes after attorney Patricia Anderson, who represents Ms. Schiavo's parents, filed a Writ of Quo Warranto, demanding that Mr. Schiavo demonstrate what authority he has to deny his wife visits from her immediate family. Should the Schindlers fail to pay, they would be denied visitation rights.

Ms. Schiavo currently has an off-duty police person, paid for by Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, assigned to her on a 24 hour a day basis. Additionally, the Schindlers have reported that, during their visits, nursing staff frequently enter their daughter's room.

Ms. Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, have not been permitted to visit her since March 29, 2004 (39 days), when attorney George Felos of Dunedin issued a press release stating that suspicious marks were found on her arm. A toxicology study conducted on Ms. Schiavo concluded that no unauthorized chemicals were found in her system. Ms. Schiavo's parents, along with her siblings, had attempted to visit her the following day at Park Place Assisted Living and were turned away by nursing staff in compliance with "Mr. Schiavo's orders".

Statement of Attorney Patricia Anderson:

By recommending that the financially-strapped Schindlers may only visit Terri if they pay yet another off-duty police person to accompany them, is an effort to inhibit them from freely seeing their own daughter. A couple of years ago, Michael Schiavo contacted Terri's parents and offered to give the balance of Terri's money over to charity. He and his attorneys used this a talking point for the media - claiming that Michael had no financial interest in Terri's death. What they neglected to mention was that that particular offer was predicated upon the Schindler's agreeing to Terri's dehydration and starvation death.

This latest tactic from Ms. Bushnell is really no different. I will not be surprised if Ms. Bushnell uses this as another talking point with the media in an attempt to make her and her client appear less cruel.

No mother should have to pay an admission fee to see her child on Mother's Day. Perhaps Ms. Bushnell has forgotten how most people spend Mother's Day."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: howlowwilltheygo; schiavo; terrischiavo; terrislaw
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To: William Terrell
Perhaps he really believes that Terri wanted to die if she should have gotten into this state.

Gotten to this state??? Hello, where have you been during all this??? There is some real concern that Michael was the one who caused her "collapse" in the first place. They had been arguing and her friend had told her not to stay at the house that night with Michael. Others have said she was thinking of leaving him. When she "collapsed", he didn't bother trying to revive her nor did he call 911. He waited a period of time and then called her brother so it was a while before everyone got there and he still couldn't be bothered to render even the most simple aid. Her family called 911. Full body scans, which he tried to suppress, shows old trauma and doctors who saw the x-rays commented "wow someone sure worked that woman over".

You also know full well she was not in this state as she was able to eat on her own but it was MS who insisted on a feeding tube. It was MS who denied her the court recommended treatment. It was MS who has denied her visitors. It is MS who has in every sense of the word caused her to be in this state. Quit playing games and deal with the facts.

321 posted on 05/09/2004 8:23:42 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: phenn
Explain why he has allowed years of violations against Terri and why he does not enforced the state MANDATED guardian plans?

He knows more than you do about the law, how it is applied and his duties under it? If there are allegations about the judge, I believe he can be challenged in the state court of appeals. Has he?

322 posted on 05/09/2004 8:25:44 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: phenn
You're assuming rights where none are written?

Yes.

That is a pretty broad interpretation.

Not really.

Perhaps with my responsibilities to insure my car, I also have the right to drive it across my neighbor's lawn? Just assuming, you know.

You can not assume the right to damage the property of another.

323 posted on 05/09/2004 8:28:17 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Not yet on all issues, but I'm certain it will come to that.

Tell me, why are you defending this judge's behavior?
324 posted on 05/09/2004 8:28:40 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: William Terrell
As you cannot assume the right to act as a durable power of attorney when you are a guardian.
325 posted on 05/09/2004 8:29:17 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: mtbopfuyn
If you believe that Mr. Shiavo is quilty of a crime, inform the currently enpaneled state grand jury or the state attorney's office.

326 posted on 05/09/2004 8:30:59 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: phenn
Tell me, why are you defending this judge's behavior?

From lack of clear proof and not knowing the details of the Florida code and precedent, I have to presume he knows what he's doing.

327 posted on 05/09/2004 8:33:30 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: phenn
As you cannot assume the right to act as a durable power of attorney when you are a guardian.

But the judge differs. You reckon he just loves Michael and hates Terri (or women, as one poster suggested) and is willing to break the law and precedent to effect that?

328 posted on 05/09/2004 8:35:51 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
What you don't know about this case you are making pronouncements on is amazing. Posters here have been trying to fill you in, but if you can still ask a question like this, you are not listening, and it doesn't look like you are referencing any of the material people have been kind enough to refer you to. Too bad, you'd have all your questions answered with a little research. Terri's parents want nothing more than to take care of their daughter for the rest of her life, asking nothing from anybody, but just the chance to do that, and provide her with a loving environment and all the care and comfort they can give her for as long as she naturally lives.

And when you ask if Michael Schiavo is just doing this because he's a mean person, the answer is yes, obviously! Not to mention his other obvious self-interested motivations, which have been patiently detailed to you, ad nauseum, and which are clear from his history. Maybe you are having a hard time believing anyone could be completely evil. So you are assuming his cause must have some merit in it somewhere. It does not. It does not stand up to scrutiny from any angle. There is no rational or decent basis for what he is trying to do. Please stop trying to defend his position when it is indefensible.

Happy Mother's Day to everyone.

329 posted on 05/09/2004 8:36:36 AM PDT by Artlover
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To: William Terrell
You, sir, presume wrongly.
330 posted on 05/09/2004 8:38:23 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: William Terrell
Duh, that's what people are trying to do.

Geez, you are a troll.
331 posted on 05/09/2004 8:40:16 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Artlover
All I hear is opinions based on emotions, and assumption based on facts that could mean simply ignorance. It appears to me to be more about Mr. Shiavo, than about Mrs. Shiavo.

Terri's parents want nothing more than to take care of their daughter for the rest of her life, asking nothing from anybody, but just the chance to do that, and provide her with a loving environment and all the care and comfort they can give her for as long as she naturally lives.

And I ask again, without compensation at the time they take over and at all times subsequent? They are willing to execute a binding agreement to that effect?

332 posted on 05/09/2004 8:41:51 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Yes, as they have repeatedly testified.
333 posted on 05/09/2004 8:51:43 AM PDT by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: William Terrell
"And I ask again, without compensation at the time they take over and at all times subsequent? They are willing to execute a binding agreement to that effect?"

Who knows? What's your point? Trying to cast aspersions that they might have a financial interest in this? If Terri is entitled now or in future to any benefits to help with her care, nobody will be getting rich on them, that's for sure. They want to care for her because she is their child. Pure & simple.
Have you any more red herrings to throw at us?
334 posted on 05/09/2004 8:52:14 AM PDT by Artlover
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
I'm glad you revealed Michael's middle name, but I'm pretty sure it's Schmutz, not Putz. Michael Der Schmutz Schiavo. It is one of those native American spirit names. Your mother and father might name you Geronimo or something, but a little later in life, you go out and look for some wondrous sign like "Red Cloud" or "Sitting Bull." That is your spirit name.

Michael went out and fell in a pile of buffalo Schmutz. He's been Der Schmutz ever since.

335 posted on 05/09/2004 8:52:28 AM PDT by T'wit ("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: pc93
Is there no way that someone could file for divorce for Terri on the grounds of adultery? The case would be clear, and it would take her out of Michael's power.
336 posted on 05/09/2004 8:53:02 AM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Duh, that's what people are trying to do.

You say that Mr. Shiavo's behavior is in front of a grand jury and after all this time they have not indicted? Or that someone is still trying to pursuade a jury to consider the matter.

And you're willing to drop your objections at the final resolution of the matter, even if it goes against you? Or will you simply assume the courts and grand jurys are corrupt because it is obvious to you that Mr. Shiavo is guilty beyond doubt.

337 posted on 05/09/2004 8:56:12 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: phenn
Yes, as they have repeatedly testified.

Ok, since you have been active on this issue, please post their statement to that effect.

338 posted on 05/09/2004 8:58:29 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: amdgmary
Just divorce this poor woman, you lowlife.
339 posted on 05/09/2004 9:02:52 AM PDT by Libertina (And thanks to all the Dads as well ;))
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To: Artlover
My opinion differs. Is this about what is the best for Terri or what is best for her parents. It has been done time and again, once a person concedes one legal point, immediate lawsuits are filed to proceed with others. Maybe Mr. Shiavo is concerned with that. I would be. This is why there are a lack of apologies on the slavery reparations issue.

And perhaps Mr. Shiavo really believes Terri would want to die. That you don't believe him from evidence meaningful to you is worth no more than anyone else's opinion about and view of that same evidence.

I've said all I have to say, and several time and in several ways. It remains my opinion.

This is my last post on this thread. Please inform the others, or not, at your discretion.

340 posted on 05/09/2004 9:09:49 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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