Parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo Told to Pay to See Their Daughter

The Terri Schindler Foundation ^ | May 7, 2004 | Terri Foundation

[mtbopfuyn]

Perhaps he really believes that Terri wanted to die if she should have gotten into this state.

Gotten to this state??? Hello, where have you been during all this??? There is some real concern that Michael was the one who caused her "collapse" in the first place. They had been arguing and her friend had told her not to stay at the house that night with Michael. Others have said she was thinking of leaving him. When she "collapsed", he didn't bother trying to revive her nor did he call 911. He waited a period of time and then called her brother so it was a while before everyone got there and he still couldn't be bothered to render even the most simple aid. Her family called 911. Full body scans, which he tried to suppress, shows old trauma and doctors who saw the x-rays commented "wow someone sure worked that woman over".

You also know full well she was not in this state as she was able to eat on her own but it was MS who insisted on a feeding tube. It was MS who denied her the court recommended treatment. It was MS who has denied her visitors. It is MS who has in every sense of the word caused her to be in this state. Quit playing games and deal with the facts.

[William Terrell]

Explain why he has allowed years of violations against Terri and why he does not enforced the state MANDATED guardian plans?

He knows more than you do about the law, how it is applied and his duties under it? If there are allegations about the judge, I believe he can be challenged in the state court of appeals. Has he?

[William Terrell]

You're assuming rights where none are written?

Yes.

That is a pretty broad interpretation.

Not really.

Perhaps with my responsibilities to insure my car, I also have the right to drive it across my neighbor's lawn? Just assuming, you know.

You can not assume the right to damage the property of another.

[phenn]

Not yet on all issues, but I'm certain it will come to that.

Tell me, why are you defending this judge's behavior?

[phenn]

As you cannot assume the right to act as a durable power of attorney when you are a guardian.

[William Terrell]

If you believe that Mr. Shiavo is quilty of a crime, inform the currently enpaneled state grand jury or the state attorney's office.

[William Terrell]

Tell me, why are you defending this judge's behavior?

From lack of clear proof and not knowing the details of the Florida code and precedent, I have to presume he knows what he's doing.

[William Terrell]

As you cannot assume the right to act as a durable power of attorney when you are a guardian.

But the judge differs. You reckon he just loves Michael and hates Terri (or women, as one poster suggested) and is willing to break the law and precedent to effect that?

[Artlover]

What you don't know about this case you are making pronouncements on is amazing. Posters here have been trying to fill you in, but if you can still ask a question like this, you are not listening, and it doesn't look like you are referencing any of the material people have been kind enough to refer you to. Too bad, you'd have all your questions answered with a little research. Terri's parents want nothing more than to take care of their daughter for the rest of her life, asking nothing from anybody, but just the chance to do that, and provide her with a loving environment and all the care and comfort they can give her for as long as she naturally lives.

And when you ask if Michael Schiavo is just doing this because he's a mean person, the answer is yes, obviously! Not to mention his other obvious self-interested motivations, which have been patiently detailed to you, ad nauseum, and which are clear from his history. Maybe you are having a hard time believing anyone could be completely evil. So you are assuming his cause must have some merit in it somewhere. It does not. It does not stand up to scrutiny from any angle. There is no rational or decent basis for what he is trying to do. Please stop trying to defend his position when it is indefensible.

Happy Mother's Day to everyone.

[phenn]

You, sir, presume wrongly.

[mtbopfuyn]

Duh, that's what people are trying to do.

Geez, you are a troll.

[William Terrell]

All I hear is opinions based on emotions, and assumption based on facts that could mean simply ignorance. It appears to me to be more about Mr. Shiavo, than about Mrs. Shiavo.

Terri's parents want nothing more than to take care of their daughter for the rest of her life, asking nothing from anybody, but just the chance to do that, and provide her with a loving environment and all the care and comfort they can give her for as long as she naturally lives.

And I ask again, without compensation at the time they take over and at all times subsequent? They are willing to execute a binding agreement to that effect?

[phenn]

Yes, as they have repeatedly testified.

[Artlover]

"And I ask again, without compensation at the time they take over and at all times subsequent? They are willing to execute a binding agreement to that effect?"

Who knows? What's your point? Trying to cast aspersions that they might have a financial interest in this? If Terri is entitled now or in future to any benefits to help with her care, nobody will be getting rich on them, that's for sure. They want to care for her because she is their child. Pure & simple.
Have you any more red herrings to throw at us?

[T'wit]

I'm glad you revealed Michael's middle name, but I'm pretty sure it's Schmutz, not Putz. Michael Der Schmutz Schiavo. It is one of those native American spirit names. Your mother and father might name you Geronimo or something, but a little later in life, you go out and look for some wondrous sign like "Red Cloud" or "Sitting Bull." That is your spirit name.

Michael went out and fell in a pile of buffalo Schmutz. He's been Der Schmutz ever since.

[WFTR]

Is there no way that someone could file for divorce for Terri on the grounds of adultery? The case would be clear, and it would take her out of Michael's power.

[William Terrell]

Duh, that's what people are trying to do.

You say that Mr. Shiavo's behavior is in front of a grand jury and after all this time they have not indicted? Or that someone is still trying to pursuade a jury to consider the matter.

And you're willing to drop your objections at the final resolution of the matter, even if it goes against you? Or will you simply assume the courts and grand jurys are corrupt because it is obvious to you that Mr. Shiavo is guilty beyond doubt.

[William Terrell]

Yes, as they have repeatedly testified.

Ok, since you have been active on this issue, please post their statement to that effect.

[Libertina]

Just divorce this poor woman, you lowlife.

[William Terrell]

My opinion differs. Is this about what is the best for Terri or what is best for her parents. It has been done time and again, once a person concedes one legal point, immediate lawsuits are filed to proceed with others. Maybe Mr. Shiavo is concerned with that. I would be. This is why there are a lack of apologies on the slavery reparations issue.

And perhaps Mr. Shiavo really believes Terri would want to die. That you don't believe him from evidence meaningful to you is worth no more than anyone else's opinion about and view of that same evidence.

I've said all I have to say, and several time and in several ways. It remains my opinion.

This is my last post on this thread. Please inform the others, or not, at your discretion.