Posted on 05/07/2004 3:23:12 PM PDT by amdgmary
Parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo Told to Pay to See Their Daughter
Clearwater, FL May 7, 2004: In yet another bizarre twist of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo case, the Schindler family was informed that they must now pay a fee for security each time that they want to visit their daughter.
On Wednesday, May 5, 2004, Deborah Bushnell of Dunedin, an attorney representing Michael Schiavo, faxed a letter to attorneys representing the parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo.
In her communication, Ms. Bushnell recommended that Ms. Schiavo's parents could be permitted to visit their disabled daughter if they would agree to hire an off-duty police person to accompany them. This comes after attorney Patricia Anderson, who represents Ms. Schiavo's parents, filed a Writ of Quo Warranto, demanding that Mr. Schiavo demonstrate what authority he has to deny his wife visits from her immediate family. Should the Schindlers fail to pay, they would be denied visitation rights.
Ms. Schiavo currently has an off-duty police person, paid for by Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, assigned to her on a 24 hour a day basis. Additionally, the Schindlers have reported that, during their visits, nursing staff frequently enter their daughter's room.
Ms. Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, have not been permitted to visit her since March 29, 2004 (39 days), when attorney George Felos of Dunedin issued a press release stating that suspicious marks were found on her arm. A toxicology study conducted on Ms. Schiavo concluded that no unauthorized chemicals were found in her system. Ms. Schiavo's parents, along with her siblings, had attempted to visit her the following day at Park Place Assisted Living and were turned away by nursing staff in compliance with "Mr. Schiavo's orders".
Statement of Attorney Patricia Anderson:
By recommending that the financially-strapped Schindlers may only visit Terri if they pay yet another off-duty police person to accompany them, is an effort to inhibit them from freely seeing their own daughter. A couple of years ago, Michael Schiavo contacted Terri's parents and offered to give the balance of Terri's money over to charity. He and his attorneys used this a talking point for the media - claiming that Michael had no financial interest in Terri's death. What they neglected to mention was that that particular offer was predicated upon the Schindler's agreeing to Terri's dehydration and starvation death.
This latest tactic from Ms. Bushnell is really no different. I will not be surprised if Ms. Bushnell uses this as another talking point with the media in an attempt to make her and her client appear less cruel.
No mother should have to pay an admission fee to see her child on Mother's Day. Perhaps Ms. Bushnell has forgotten how most people spend Mother's Day."
When I post my opinions, I come out of my fears, thoughts, considerations and beliefs about justice, fairness, and the effect of law on the people, of which I'm one.
When I look at this controversy, my judgment is, whether true or not, that all the others that post on this subject are doing the same. I'm sorry, I might be wrong, but I don't see much concern for Terri herself.
I see reactions to events centered around Terri and the use of Terri politically to address those events. And see this camouflaged as love and caring for Terri. Maybe I'm out of line, but, God help me, it angers me to see this.
Maybe there can be justice in this case. How, can you tell me, will the doubt be removed? The events will keep on regardless of my opinion. But I, before God, will express them, and I haven't seen one reason to abate them.
I'll tell you this. Beyond my considerations in this matter, I personally believe the Mr. Shiavo is trying to avoid a personal responsibility to his wife he accepted before God when he married her, and he is using the rights that matrimony gives him from centuries of English and American law to do it.
I'm not talking about confusing statutes that states enact for money and power. I talking about ancient common law that has worked for our cultures for a very, very long time. I'm talking about this because I'm a conservative.
Over the centuries, we have benefited from these laws and customs built up around marriage and personal relationships. There is always bad people that use good laws to further their own ends. I see that these customs are challenged at their core by the egregiousness of one case.
This is what I see. The common law must survive a bad man and a bad judge for the good of all. The common law was changed in just such a manner to allow nofault divorce without having to have a clear cause, and that is helping mightily to destroy this culture, the one in which I live and depend on for security.
Right or wrong, That's what I think. And I'll face all the farmers with pitchforks in the country to say it. The blessings of Christ to your and yours also.
Who ruled on that one?
Terri's parents' are concerned that Terri's health, safety and even LIFE are at stake! Her parents WANT her and WANT to remove her from danger.
On the other hand, Terri's "loving"-Hitleresque-lying-adultering-possibly-attepmted-murderer-"husband"-in-name-only is giving ALL signs of attempting to KILL her to keep her QUIET so she cannot TELL what REALLY happened to her that fateful night long ago and in the year after that when she suffered BROKEN BONES all over her body.
I'm sure Michael is concerned with THE DEATH PENALTY if Terri should ever get the $750,000 of THERAPY that HE got for HER THERAPY after telling the JURY (i.e. under oath) that he loved Terri and wanted to help her the rest of his life---never ONCE mentioning during THAT lawsuit that she "wanted to die."
WILLIAL TERRELL ADDED: "And perhaps Mr. Shiavo really believes Terri would want to die. That you don't believe him from evidence meaningful to you is worth no more than anyone else's opinion about and view of that same evidence.
What Mr. Schiavo claims he believes Terri wants and what Terri actually wants are likely to be two different things. If Terri did not make a FULLY INFORMED Advanced Directive (which she did not), he has no business being allowed to KILL her via removal of food.
As the mother of a severely mentally and physically disabled daughter, I can tell you---FIRST HAND---that parents of disabled children LOVE their children even though they are disabled!
Terri's parents WANT to take Terri even without getting the $750,000 that Michael Schiavo apparently DEFRAUDED a court out of when he CONVENIENTLY FAILED to mention Terri's alleged claim to want to die while he ALSO claimed he was wanting to get the $750,000 for Terri's THERAPY.
Terri's parents have ONLY Terri's safety, health and LIFE in mind. "Loving"-Hitleresque-adulterer-husband ONLY wants to KEEP the apparently FRAUDULENTLY-gained money AND keep from getting the DEATH PENALTY if Terri ever regains her ability to TELL what happened.
Terri's parents' are concerned that Terri's health, safety and even LIFE are at stake! Her parents WANT her and WANT to remove her from danger.
On the other hand, Terri's "loving"-Hitleresque-lying-adultering-possibly-attepmted-murderer-"husband"-in-name-only is giving ALL signs of attempting to KILL her to keep her QUIET so she cannot TELL what REALLY happened to her that fateful night long ago and in the year after that when she suffered BROKEN BONES all over her body.
I'm sure Michael is concerned with THE DEATH PENALTY if Terri should ever get the $750,000 of THERAPY that HE got for HER THERAPY after telling the JURY (i.e. under oath) that he loved Terri and wanted to help her the rest of his life---never ONCE mentioning during THAT lawsuit that she "wanted to die."
WILLIAL TERRELL ADDED: "And perhaps Mr. Shiavo really believes Terri would want to die. That you don't believe him from evidence meaningful to you is worth no more than anyone else's opinion about and view of that same evidence.
What Mr. Schiavo claims he believes Terri wants and what Terri actually wants are likely to be two different things. If Terri did not make a FULLY INFORMED Advanced Directive (which she did not), he has no business being allowed to KILL her via removal of food.
As the mother of a severely mentally and physically disabled daughter, I can tell you---FIRST HAND---that parents of disabled children LOVE their children even though they are disabled!
Terri's parents WANT to take Terri even without getting the $750,000 that Michael Schiavo apparently DEFRAUDED a court out of when he CONVENIENTLY FAILED to mention Terri's alleged claim to want to die while he ALSO claimed he was wanting to get the $750,000 for Terri's THERAPY.
Terri's parents have ONLY Terri's safety, health and LIFE in mind. "Loving"-Hitleresque-adulterer-husband ONLY wants to KEEP the apparently FRAUDULENTLY-gained money AND keep from getting the DEATH PENALTY if Terri ever regains her ability to TELL what happened.
Michael Shiavo is more than likely a criminal in his heart, but he has the backing of law, and common law. God will judge him when human law can't.
As you said in your private reply this statemnt should be discussed publicly since you stated it publicly. Good.
First of all, reproduce the post where I said I a fellow human being should be put to death.
Second, I admit I can't see any relationship between the two concepts, so you should explain it to me.
This poster you are referring to has nerve to even mention the erosion of constitutional protections, while calling for a fellow human being to be cruelly put to death.
Prison inmates are constitutionally protected from cruel and unusual punishment. When the state executes criminals, they are given lethal injection for the most part, because activists consider the electric chair cruel.
We have heard of several people who were brain aware of what was happening to them, although doctors and loved ones didn't realize this. One woman wrote a book about her experience being starved and dehydrated. God helped this woman muster enough strength to make the doctor and nurses take notice. There have been other instances of this. Talk about cruel and unusual punishment. These people went through agony.
The reason why we all feel so strongly about Terri is that she does respond, and that her family and independent specialists are deliberately being prevented from helping her. Her husband is determined to kill her. This is murder, and she has a constitutional right to be protected. This is a very disturbing situation. Here we have a woman who was injured under suspicious circumstances. Her husband lied about her care needs to win a fat malpractice suit and a medical trust fund. All of a sudden he remembers that Terri wouldn't want to be kept alive on machines.
Terri's parents have offered to let Michael Schiavo keep the money and just divorce her. Think about it William. This man has had a relationship with a woman that has produced 2 children. Why not just divorce Terri? We may be on different sides of the basic issue, but there is nothing basic about this, and if you'd really take a look at the evidence, I think you'd see there is something else going on disgused as a right to die issue.
I believe in appropriate care until natural death. Sometimes family members go overboard when it is clear that their loved one is brain dead. All Terri has is a feeding tube. It is comfort care, not technically life support. She isn't brain dead, she responds and there is video to support that fact.
Our constitution and the rights they provide are being challenged in many different areas. This is the slippery slope. If Michael Schiavo gets away with murder, none of us, including you William will be safe.
That's why we help Terri whether she's IN CRISIS OR JUST BEING HELD HOSTAGE.
The news media has supressed this story as much as possible or switched the stories to markets based probably on their wink and nod relationships with the likes of people like JIM KING. If it's about him and it's good, Jax news covers. If it's about this HORRID DEATH BUSINESS, a complete news blackout.
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You should know by NOW THAT TERRI HASN'T HAD EVEN ONE JURY TRIAL. SHE HAS RETAINED RIGHTS BUT THEY'VE BEEN STEPPED ON OVER AND OVER AND OVER. There's absolutely no excuse for the way her guardianship file has been handled, the way her rehab money more than likely went up somebody's nose.
Life isn't fair but it SHOULD BE JUST. Terri deserves JUSTICE and she's had NO JURY TRIALS. Even Governor Bush isn't afforded the rights of a Defendant in Schiavo v. Bush, Judge W. Douglas Baird presiding. JUDGE BAIRD IS NO JURY, HE'S ANOTHER JUDGE who's had every Sam Seltzer Steak that he's ever ordered but STARVING SOMEONE because Judge Greer doesn't want anyone to ruin the "Terri FORCED EXIT PLAN" is JUST WRONG, ILLEGAL, A SIN AND IMMORAL.
Get your Living Will but when you say "poor Terri", that's Felos-speak. If you live in Dunedin, Florida, I have no doubts that you are a neighbor or friend of HINO's attorney.
If you went to him for your Living Will, God help you. The man should be disbarred in my opinion. There are better and other Estate Law attorneys in this major metropolitan area.
And finally, "nearing 60" is nothing to be afraid of. If you held strong religious beliefs, you'd have no fear, you'd have FAITH.
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