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Joe Wilson: Wife Divulged CIA Secret on Fourth Date
NewsMax ^ | 5/9/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 05/09/2004 3:04:12 PM PDT by wagglebee

Bush administration Uraniumgate accuser Joe Wilson defended his wife Valerie Plame on Sunday for blowing her CIA cover during what he described as "a heavy make out session" shortly after the couple first met in the 1990s.

"Well, I had all the requisite security clearances and, in fact, there is some personal discretion that is allowed when you are in personal relationships," Wilson told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.

Malzberg had asked about Wilson's admission to Vanity Fair in January that his wife revealed her CIA indentity in a moment of heated passion on their third or fourth date:

The magazine reported:

"Meeting in Paris, London and Brussels, [the relationship between Plame and Wilson] got very serious, very quickly. On the third or fourth date, he says, they were in the middle of a 'heavy make-out' session when she said she had something to tell him."

At that point Wilson told VF that his undercover enamorata interrupted their tryst and came clean.

"She was, she explained, undercover in the CIA," VF said. Wilson told the magazine that the revelation "did nothing to dampen my ardour. My only question was: Is your name really Valerie?"

The Bush accuser, whose new book "The Politics of Truth" details his outrage over having his wife outed by the White House, was less forthcoming about a report claiming that as early as 1994 her cover had been blown, forcing the CIA to return her to the U.S.

"I won't talk about anything related to her career, other than to point out to you that the CIA tells Justice Department investigators that she's covered by the Intelligence Identities Protection Act," Wilson told Malzberg.

In October, New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof reported: "The C.I.A. suspected that [master spy] Aldrich Ames had given Mrs. Wilson's name [along with those of other spies] to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994."

At the time, Kristof noted, Wilson's wife was brought home for safety reasons and "was already in transition away from undercover work to management."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; cia; cialeak; joewilson; malzberg; talkradio; valerieplame; vanityfair
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So it was just a political ploy to harm Bush
1 posted on 05/09/2004 3:04:12 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....................
2 posted on 05/09/2004 3:05:28 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: wagglebee
Sounds like she's 'easy'.
3 posted on 05/09/2004 3:07:46 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: anniegetyourgun
So funny, you couldn't make it up. I can see a movie with Kirsty Alley and Martin Short.
4 posted on 05/09/2004 3:10:29 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: wagglebee
Actually, ratting on an agent makes no sense for the Bush camp..... somebody else did it.
5 posted on 05/09/2004 3:10:59 PM PDT by gortklattu
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To: wagglebee
This guy gives me the frigging creeps.
6 posted on 05/09/2004 3:11:07 PM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
On the third or fourth date, he says, they were in the middle of a 'heavy make-out' session when she said she had something to tell him."

UGH....

8 posted on 05/09/2004 3:11:22 PM PDT by Dog (In Memory of Pat Tillman ---- ---- ---- American Hero.)
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To: wagglebee
"in fact, there is some personal discretion that is allowed when you are in personal relationships," Wilson told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg."

Well heck, maybe Valerie told the person who leaked the info during a heavy make out session with him. Who says there had to be only one "personal relationship".

9 posted on 05/09/2004 3:11:28 PM PDT by sd-joe
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To: wagglebee
Some "covert" CIA operative she is!
10 posted on 05/09/2004 3:14:10 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: wagglebee
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew.
11 posted on 05/09/2004 3:15:48 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Hey, I wouldn't touch Camryn Manheim's uterus on a bet.)
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To: wagglebee
My oldest daughter has a top secret security clearance, and even if I had one, unless I was working in her department, she is not allowed to tell me anything about her work. "Need to know" only.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, especially if her supposed cover was that important.
12 posted on 05/09/2004 3:16:14 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: wagglebee
"heavy make-out session"

Ahhh, LALALALALALALA
Too much information!
13 posted on 05/09/2004 3:16:45 PM PDT by highlandbreeze (....that others may live.)
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To: wagglebee
What a coincidence, I also told all the (sl)easy women I dated (in my bachelor days) that I was a secret agent.

Not that it was true, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn once!

14 posted on 05/09/2004 3:18:07 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: FBD; MeekOneGOP; Mia T; Mudboy Slim; sultan88; Treasa
Bush administration Uraniumgate accuser Joe Wilson defended his wife Valerie Plame on Sunday for blowing her CIA cover during what he described as "a heavy make out session" shortly after the couple first met in the 1990s.

Seems that Miss Valerie wasn't exactly the upstanding, dedicated agent the Left purported her to be.

15 posted on 05/09/2004 3:18:25 PM PDT by jla
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To: wagglebee
Bush administration Uraniumgate accuser Joe Wilson defended his wife Valerie Plame on Sunday for blowing her CIA cover during what he described as "a heavy make out session" shortly after the couple first met in the 1990s.

Looks like he doesn't have much respect for his wife's reputation does he? I know I wouldn't want my husband to blab that to the world.

16 posted on 05/09/2004 3:18:31 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: Dog
Gives new meaning to the phrase "she blew her cover."
17 posted on 05/09/2004 3:18:31 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: wagglebee
Undercover interruptus?
18 posted on 05/09/2004 3:19:58 PM PDT by Use It Or Lose It (JohnFKerry: A Bad Bottle of French Whine topped with a $1,000 haircut)
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To: wagglebee
"" 'Well, I had all the requisite security clearances and, in fact, there is some personal discretion that is allowed when you are in personal relationships' Wilson told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg."

Utter BS.

Maureen Dowd let this little tidbit slip out in one of her columns a few months ago and I was surprised no one picked up on it. I sent an email to Boortz about it hoping he would bring it up on his show but he never did.

I was cleared for Secret in my time in the military and anyone who has been granted a security clearance knows that classified information is given out on a NEED TO KNOW basis only. It doesn't matter how high the clearance of the recipient is. This was a clear compromise of security. There is NO leeway given to persons because of their "relationship". She violated federal law by outing herself.
19 posted on 05/09/2004 3:20:23 PM PDT by dandi ("No nation ever taxed it's way into prosperity." - R.L.)
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To: wagglebee
"Well, I had all the requisite security clearances and, in fact, there is some personal discretion that is allowed when you are in personal relationships,"

There is?? I can see how one might think that media folks are all ninnies, but does Wilson actually think that the public will digest that one?

20 posted on 05/09/2004 3:23:11 PM PDT by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: dandi
classified information is given out on a NEED TO KNOW basis only

Yep.

21 posted on 05/09/2004 3:23:51 PM PDT by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: wagglebee
The man is a blithering ass. That just about covers it.
22 posted on 05/09/2004 3:25:42 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: wagglebee
I think it is time for a couple of polygraph test - Wilson and his wife. Someone is trying to "hawk" some movie rights.
23 posted on 05/09/2004 3:27:08 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: wagglebee
revealed her CIA indentity in a moment of heated passion on their third or fourth date

Hmm. I've often thought about telling girls I was with the CIA, but that would have been sometime before the point of "heated passion."

24 posted on 05/09/2004 3:28:37 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (If we comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable, do we then reafflict the newly comfortable?)
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To: stop_fascism
I didn't see your comment before I posted. That is exactly the con game they are trying to pull.
25 posted on 05/09/2004 3:29:21 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: wagglebee
"Well, I had all the requisite security clearances and, in fact, there is some personal discretion that is allowed when you are in personal relationships,"

This i crap! I don't believe that for a minute. Just because you have a clearance, doe NOT mean you have the "need to know" justification. And if he did have the need to know, the briefing would come from a security agent once the needed background investigation was complete, not from some hot honey in the back of a car.

Out of one side of his mouth, he wants us to believe how senstitive the information about his wife's duties were - that she as greatly harmed by the disclosure of her name. Then out of the other side, she was so careless to devulge her work to someone she has "had a personall relationship with". What does that mean, you give somebody a Lewinsky, that means you can relay senistive and classified intel information.

Did she think about the number of lives she was potentially placing in danger by violating her oath. She did not kno for sure if he was a spy or not - that's what background investigations are for. I remember a case in the 1980s when a US military officer married a German woman and lived with her for more than 10 years. She was a sleeper agent and worked for the East Germans as a spy. Only after the damagae was done did he find out who she was and what her motivation was.

As Stossel says "give me a break!"
26 posted on 05/09/2004 3:29:23 PM PDT by tang-soo
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To: The Duke
I also told all the (sl)easy women I dated (in my bachelor days) that I was a secret agent

Beat me to it! LOL!

27 posted on 05/09/2004 3:29:56 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (If we comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable, do we then reafflict the newly comfortable?)
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To: wagglebee
Joe Wilson? Mrs. Wilson?

Didn't they VIOLATE anti-Nepotism laws by the Mrs.'s putting Jow as the head of that "Investigation" trip to Niger?
28 posted on 05/09/2004 3:30:22 PM PDT by Anti-Bush Hater (Assembling a bunch of hippies and paid liars to regurgitate commie lies is not an "Investigation")
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To: anniegetyourgun
"'Well, I had all the requisite security clearances and, in fact, there is some personal discretion that is allowed when you are in personal relationships,' Wilson told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg."

Ahhh, but the need-to-know rule WAS broken here. She was bragging. The very worst thing an agent can do. Punish her.

29 posted on 05/09/2004 3:30:38 PM PDT by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: wagglebee
make-out session

Leave it to the sleazy democrats to combine national security and sex.

30 posted on 05/09/2004 3:31:26 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: dandi
So, what are the chances Joe will be called on his bald faced lie?
31 posted on 05/09/2004 3:32:29 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: sd-joe
And she could have been a double agent, too.
32 posted on 05/09/2004 3:33:08 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: wagglebee
"a heavy make out session"

With Wilson that could be considered torture.

33 posted on 05/09/2004 3:33:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: wagglebee
"Well, I had all the requisite security clearances and, in fact, there is some personal discretion that is allowed when you are in personal relationships,"

"Requisite security clearances" doesn't cut it. There is also a "need to know" requirement in addition to a sufficient clearance.

And there is NO discretion for personal relationships, even if you are married to the person.

34 posted on 05/09/2004 3:34:21 PM PDT by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: wagglebee
"Joe Wilson: Wife Divulged CIA Secret on Fourth Date"

Was she holding Mr. Microphone at the time?

35 posted on 05/09/2004 3:35:26 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: stylin_geek
None. Zip. Nada.

And BTW, he violated the law also by not reporting it immediately.
36 posted on 05/09/2004 3:36:20 PM PDT by dandi ("No nation ever taxed it's way into prosperity." - R.L.)
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To: monkeywrench
"Sounds like she's 'easy."

And it's her own husband who put her being easy out there. He's a real classy guy ain't he?

37 posted on 05/09/2004 3:37:10 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: FairOpinion
I cannot understand why one of these GOP political operatives did not pick up on the Greenpeace "hell raising" in Iraq over the "yellowcake" they found. They tried to get the coalition forces to take it out. I think the right hand does not know what in he** the left hand is doing. Joe Wilson is an idiot. Where did the "yellowcake" come from and why is it not being addressed?
38 posted on 05/09/2004 3:38:02 PM PDT by oldironsides
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To: dandi
As I posted earlier, I knew his claim about "requisite security clearances" was garbage. However, I didn't know that it was a violation to not report it, although in retrospect, it seems obvious.
39 posted on 05/09/2004 3:42:23 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: NetValue
My book version:Valerie whispered: "I'm an undercover agent".

"Wilson, taking her literally, threw the covers over her.....and, and.....

What a jerk he is!

40 posted on 05/09/2004 3:42:48 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: wagglebee
---So it was just a political ploy to harm Bush---

Yup!

41 posted on 05/09/2004 3:44:58 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: leadpenny; Sacajaweau; stylin_geek
God, this guy's a tool! I'm just waiting for the official biopic of his life story to be released nationwide starting next summer. By the way, what nimrod divulges this type of information on a nationally syndicated radio program; even if it is already part of the public record?
42 posted on 05/09/2004 3:46:29 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (Where did they get all those American Flags to burn? Is there a store or something over there?)
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To: mass55th
Every time that pompous, self important "dipsy diplomat" Wilson speaks --- he shows his ass and frightens the hell out of me that he once held an important office in the State Department....

We were served by morons and misfits....

By the way.....is his wife a female?

Semper Fi
43 posted on 05/09/2004 3:46:55 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: wagglebee
"Joe Wilson defended his wife Valerie Plame on Sunday for blowing her CIA cover during what he described as "a heavy make out session" shortly after the couple first met in the 1990s"

"Oh Joe, oh oh oh. Yesss, right there, yes, yes yes! Just a little more Joe, Ohhhhhhhhhhh mygod. Yesssss, Yessss, Yessssssssss, I'm in the CIAAAAAAAAAAAAAA."

44 posted on 05/09/2004 3:47:38 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Mulder
Exactly. My Dad did top secret work in the Pentagon and his work was never discussed in any way shape or form. The Pentagon CounterIntelligence Agency checks out everyone, they even did a check on my first husband when I got married.
The notion that one has some sort of discretion to divulge top secret info/identities in a personal relationship is such a pile of crap.
45 posted on 05/09/2004 3:50:50 PM PDT by visualops (Happy Mother's Day FReepers!!)
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To: monkeywrench
And a blabbermouth!!
46 posted on 05/09/2004 3:52:10 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: wagglebee
< sigh > Oh good Lord. Why are we still worrying about Ambassador Wilson again? Can anyone tell me that please? Oh, that's right, because the media loves anything anti Bush.
47 posted on 05/09/2004 3:55:08 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Carl/NewsMax; wagglebee; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; Mia T; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; potlatch; ...

Carl, you left out the best part


AMB ASSADOR Joe Wilson would not answer any of Steve's questions...

Either "I cannot talk about that" speeches or "Read my book, it's all in there!"

Then slippery Joe started to tie in the "Irag prison scamdal" and link it to Viet Nam.

Asked by Steve about working for John Kerry's campaign Wilson said "I'm not working for John Kerry's campaign, I'm just traveling the US making speeches to help him become President!"

Finally Steve Malzberg brought up John Kerry's 1971 taped confessions that Kerry himself had "committed atrocities in Viet Nam....."

Joe Wilson said "No, John Kerry was only speaking of general battlefield conditions in Viet Nam!"

Steve's quick answer:

"Read his book!"

48 posted on 05/09/2004 3:57:56 PM PDT by devolve (................... (..........................Hello from Sunny South Florida!..................)
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To: wagglebee
This jerk Wilson and his "secret agent" wife are a testimony to the corrupt and debased nitwits that populate our state department and CIA. The two worst jokes of 2004.
49 posted on 05/09/2004 3:58:21 PM PDT by hgro
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To: Larry Lucido
I have seen this in a movie True lies, I think or was it the revenge of the nerds.
50 posted on 05/09/2004 3:58:48 PM PDT by dts32041 ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity" George W Bush 28 Jan 2003)
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