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salon.com contacts DFU over FR's role in murder of Nick Berg by Islamofascist Terrorist b*st*rds
email from salon.com reporter | 5-12-04 | dfu

Posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by doug from upland

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Apparently, I am in the middle of a controversy regarding the brutal murder of Nick Berg by the Islamofascist terrorist b*st*rds.

I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record. I will either call him back on the record or he can use my comments here on the record.

Salon.com inquiry, your post on the "enemies list"
From (redacted) | 05/12/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT read

Doug,

Hello. My name is (redacted), and I'm a reporter at Salon.com. On March 7, you posted a list of signatories to an ANSWER protest; that list, which is now being discussed by a few left-leaning bloggers, includes the name of "Michael S. Berg," who is the father of Nick Berg, the man beheaded in Iraq.

It seems as if you just posted a copy of the list from the ANSWER site, but the trouble is, your list appears much longer than the one on their page. Michael Berg's name -- and many others -- is not on their page.

So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?

I also wonder what you think about the fact that you named these people enemies; do you really think they're enemies? Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted. I wonder what you think of that idea?

I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story, and it'd be great to get your input. Can you e-mail or call, or let me know where to reach you? Thanks so much.

--(redacted)
Reporter, Salon.com (phone number redacted)

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NOTE: my first suggestion was to tell the report to ask ANSWER why many of the names have been removed from that original post.

Here is my post from a few months ago -- HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names

Here is the link for the following excerpt on an FR thread -- Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

Original source -- original article by Fintan Dunne

Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Breakfornews.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Fintan Dunne
Posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Tarantulas
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death.

Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.

The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.

The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, often fanatical Republican and relentless pro-war activism.

On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.

It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."

The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).

Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."

That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.

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Here is my immediate reaction --- what is the color of the sky in the fantasy world which Fintan Dunne calls home?

I can't wait for her next story. Let's set the scenario. Two guys are driving to the airport. Their upper radiator hose bursts, the car overheats, and they miss their flight. They get to the airport a few hours late and are able to catch the next plane. The plane crashes. Fintan Dunne headline: Pep Boys Implicated in Death of Innocent Travelers. If anyone could conceive such twisted logic, it would be Ms. Dunne. Without a defective radiator hose, they would have made it to the airport on time. Without a defective radiator hose they would not have been on the flight where the shoebomber detonated his loafers in the seat just behind the wing.

Do we have an official "enemies list"? If so, what do we do to them? Who is keeping track?

I will let you make some comments before I make additional on the record comments. Please don't be crazy. Think through your argument carefully. Some of this may appear on salon.com and we can perhaps help them get up to about 2 cents per share.


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1 posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
very interesting... salon is still alive?
2 posted on 05/12/2004 4:29:23 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: doug from upland
They cannot be serious.
3 posted on 05/12/2004 4:32:21 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Yes, they really are serious. We are actually sharing oxygen with them.
4 posted on 05/12/2004 4:34:06 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
ping for later reading.
5 posted on 05/12/2004 4:35:01 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: cyborg
Salon has always been there. I get crap sent to me from my ignorant leftie friends all the time.
6 posted on 05/12/2004 4:35:47 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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To: doug from upland
bump for thursday am
7 posted on 05/12/2004 4:36:59 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: doug from upland
IIRC, the military held him because they thought he could be endangered.

His father threatened to sue so they let him go.

I honestly can't blame his father for his actions - even though by Salon's apparent standards that puts him to blame.



8 posted on 05/12/2004 4:36:59 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: doug from upland
Who are the bloggers?
9 posted on 05/12/2004 4:36:59 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: doug from upland
your original list from CANSWAR had the Michael Berg name. We all say it and its recorded.

Why Canswer is now censoring their own signatories is beyond me but hey....whats new.

GOOD JOB DOUG and frankly I am sorry the the Sr. Berg wasnt more like his son.
10 posted on 05/12/2004 4:37:11 PM PDT by alisasny (John Kerry is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.)
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To: doug from upland
I am at a loss to connect the dots they try to connect...If anything,their assertion should be it would have protected him, even though Nick was not a part of that list.
11 posted on 05/12/2004 4:37:39 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: doug from upland
I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story

LOL...right ......

Salon is only one step above Conanson or Alterman...be careful.

12 posted on 05/12/2004 4:37:56 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: doug from upland
Let me see if I have this right:
The "supposedly radical Islamic group" is hanging around Free Republic.com, just to see what's happening.
They notice this list of ANTI-war people through a link here.
And they managed to FIND a SON of one of them in Iraq.
And the MURDERED him there.

Because his father was ...... against the war.

Is that believable to anyone?

13 posted on 05/12/2004 4:38:24 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: doug from upland
Well, let's try this one. If the name was on an otherwise publicly available list why would we attribute Iraqi knowledge of that name to a reprint on FreeRepublic? How about attributing it to the original publicly available list, and to the fact that Mr. Berg and the company were in fact active in ANSWER?

Also, I gather there is no evidence that some Iraqi unit actually uses the American FreeRepublic chat site as the source of its intel for detaining Americans found in a war zone.

14 posted on 05/12/2004 4:38:48 PM PDT by Williams
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To: doug from upland

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15 posted on 05/12/2004 4:38:51 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: doug from upland
They're yanking your chain.
16 posted on 05/12/2004 4:38:59 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: doug from upland
The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.

And yet, no explanation, plausible or otherwise, follows. Perhaps even the esteemed Ms. Dunne lacks the chuztpah to actually express what she so slyly insinuates.

If this is the kind of twaddle that salon finds worthwhile, no wonder it sucks so bad.

17 posted on 05/12/2004 4:39:11 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: doug from upland
The big question for the reporter is this: which is easier to believe, that A.N.S.W.E.R. redacted their list, or that you were prescient enough MARCH to post Berg's fathers name knowing it would endanger him in MAY.
18 posted on 05/12/2004 4:39:20 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: swilhelm73
I honestly can't blame his father for his actions - even though by Salon's apparent standards that puts him to blame.

Excellent!

19 posted on 05/12/2004 4:39:35 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: wardaddy; doug from upland
See my post and I agree with wardaddy. They make no sense....How can you deal with people who think this way?
20 posted on 05/12/2004 4:39:52 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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