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Decapitation Allegedly Shown In High Schools
The San Diego Channel ^ | 5/14/04 | The San Diego Channel

Posted on 05/14/2004 9:31:26 PM PDT by wagglebee

SAN DIEGO -- Two teachers are suspected of showing students video of American Nick Berg being decapitated, 10News reported.

A social studies teacher from Grossmont High School in El Cajon allegedly showed students Wednesday a portion of the video, pictures and audio of the beheading, Grossmont Unified School District Superintendent Terry Ryan told 10News.

Ryan said the teacher, Michael Smith, (pictured, far right), has been removed from the classroom pending a full investigation.

Smith, an El Cajon native, graduated from Grossmont High School in 1983.

Many of his students wore shirts Friday that read "Free Mr. Smith." Others, who also support Smith, said he is a very popular teacher, but they question his judgement.

An art teacher from El Capitan High School in Lakeside Thursday allegedly noticed a student watching the video and invited other students to come to the computer terminal and watch.

Ryan said the art teacher, Gina Grossini, (pictured, above, right), told the students, "That's what we get for being in a war we shouldn't be in."

Kenneth Blackington, a senior at El Capitan High School, said, "A couple of kids almost fainted during it, and another kid had to go to the bathroom and almost puked."

Grossini was also removed from the classroom.

An investigation has been launched and district officials met with the teachers Friday along with attorneys.

Counseling services have been made available for students.

"We have set aside counseling and we are making a provision at the school that any student who saw the video can have counseling. That is our first and foremost concern," Ryan told 10News.

Parents and school administrators have expressed deep concern, according to 10News.

The San Diego City School District sent a letter to all principals Friday morning advising them not to allow their students to see the video.

It read:

"We believe that the content of the video is not age-appropriate for students in grades K-12. We suggest other means for students in the upper grades to discuss this world event in age-appropriate formats."

The letter also told principals to make sure their school counselors can provide support for students who have seen the video, or who are disturbed by reports of the incident."

The video, posted earlier this week on an Islamic militant Web site, showed five men wearing headscarves and black ski masks, standing over Berg, a U.S. contractor whose body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday.

"My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Susan," the man said on the video. "I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in ... Philadelphia."

After reading a statement, the men were seen pulling the man to his side and putting a large knife to his neck. A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting "Allahu Akbar!" - "God is great." They then held the head out before the camera.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: berg; censorship; doublestandard; executionvideo; freespeech; hypocrisy; iraq; islamofascism; islamofascists; islamonazis; islamonazism; nea; nickberg; nickbergvideo; ourjobiniraq; publicschools; schools; taxdollarsatwork; teachersunion; whywefight; youpayforthis
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To: wagglebee

Those teachers need to try doing their little show and tell crapola on their next field trip to the marine base at pendelton... with a couple hundred recently graduated marines sitting in the audience.

ready. aim. fire.


21 posted on 05/14/2004 11:05:58 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: wagglebee

Well look, it seems to me that presentation is an important part of this.

Showing students the pictures of the reproductive system as it is shown in health text books is something that should be taught. OTOH, showing students Hustler Magazine closeups of hardcore porn is not.

Similarly, if somehow a teacher were to present the video of Berg as some sort of anti-American screed that is wrong. Showing this, or the people falling out of the WTC, or something similar as examples of the beasts we are fighting is something every school in America should show.

One cannot understand the WoT without understanding both the goals and the methods of Islamism.


22 posted on 05/14/2004 11:10:32 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: wagglebee
Ryan said the art teacher, Gina Grossini, (pictured, above, right), told the students, "That's what we get for being in a war we shouldn't be in."
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Counseling services have been made available for students.

Sounds like it's the teacher who needs counseling.

23 posted on 05/14/2004 11:16:42 PM PDT by giotto
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To: wagglebee
After 9-11 (and before any war) a teacher on the left coast burned a part of the American flag in a classroom and told the students not to tell.

I don't believe he was dismissed (I could be wrong). I think he taught 6th graders.

There is a double standard where the teachers' union is concerned.

The students need to know "why we fight". Sex education they get from tv.

Schools show Holocaust documentaries, I see no reason they should not learn that antisemites come in other colors other than white. The horrific attrocities they commit may use different tactics but the outcome is the same (death).

24 posted on 05/15/2004 1:46:02 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: wagglebee
How many times have we seen the Challenger explosion (and even the Columbia disentigrate)? How many times have we seen footage of JFK being killed?

This footage CAN be shown. They choose to bury it.

I have no doubt in my mind that some network (at least PBS) would have showed a video of Byrd's dragging death in Texas if one had been shot.

25 posted on 05/15/2004 1:49:51 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: EGPWS

>>>"That's what we get for being in a war we shouldn't be in."

>>9/11 is what we got for NOT being in a war that we should have been in.

BUMP!!!


26 posted on 05/15/2004 1:51:45 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: EGPWS
9/11 is what we got for NOT being in a war that we should have been in.

An outstanding reply to the pro-terrorist masquerading as peacenik crowd. I nominate you for quote of the day.

27 posted on 05/15/2004 3:12:55 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: wagglebee; Mr. Mojo
I think you're getting the two teachers confused.

There is no statement that I can see from the first teacher.
He may very well have tried to make a statement for support of the war, or our President, or against the terrorists.

It was the female teacher at the other highschool that made the antiwar statement.

28 posted on 05/15/2004 4:46:48 AM PDT by Guenevere (..., .Press on toward the goal!)
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To: wagglebee; All

didn't a freeper say they or their spouse was going to show the video in the high school where they teach?


29 posted on 05/15/2004 4:49:45 AM PDT by freedom moose (mooses like freedom and beer)
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To: Guenevere

There also is the matter of curriculum. I think that a social studies teacher showing it in class, as part of discussion of the war, would probably be legitimate, with fair warning to parents. An art teacher making a statement, while one kid is on the computer is not. Why are kids surfing the internet in art class instead of learning.


30 posted on 05/15/2004 4:55:33 AM PDT by sharkhawk (I want to go to St. Somewhere)
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To: sharkhawk
Why are kids surfing the internet in art class instead of learning.
good question.....been in a high school art class lately? things have changed in many schools

31 posted on 05/15/2004 5:01:12 AM PDT by freedom moose (mooses like freedom and beer)
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To: wagglebee
Counseling services have been made available for students.

????

I remember the counselor in my high school. He was a guidance counselor with the primary job of helping students find an appropriate collage or career field. We had our share of deaths, saw pictures of the holocaust but we never had counselors swarming over us. Now it seems routine.
What are these kids going to do after they graduate?

32 posted on 05/15/2004 5:04:56 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Avenger

Oligarchy - government by the few
Democracy - government by the mob
Republic - government by elected representatives
Theocracy - government by a priesthood
????????? - government by terrorists


33 posted on 05/15/2004 5:12:08 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: wagglebee
""That's what we get for being in a war we shouldn't be in.""

This, folks, is yer typical publick skool teecher. Yep. Wish I could say he's an aberration, but he's the norm.

34 posted on 05/15/2004 5:33:17 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: wagglebee

How is this any worse than showing all those Holocaust documentaries that gave me nightmares for weeks? I presume those are still part of a H.S. history curriculum.


35 posted on 05/15/2004 5:36:41 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: wagglebee

Hooray for those teachers. They're doing a public service, letting their students know what this upcoming generation is going to face over the next decades.


36 posted on 05/15/2004 9:34:00 AM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: R. Scott

A girl was badly burned in a house fire in my senior year. The principal talked to the senior class for about 15 minutes and we all went back to class.

So many new jobs for people other than educators since I went to school.


37 posted on 05/15/2004 9:35:10 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: wagglebee
""That's what we get for being in a war we shouldn't be in." "

Must be a mis-quote, I am sure the teacher meant

"That's what we get if we lose this war"

38 posted on 05/15/2004 10:31:27 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Vigilanteman
I nominate you for quote of the day.

I'm honored and graciously accept your nomination. ; > 0

39 posted on 05/15/2004 11:15:54 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: wagglebee
You mean some high school teachers showed that video? Are you serious? Maybe some showed images of the Abu Ghraib prisoner "You Can't Touch This" party.

An investigation needs to be launched.

40 posted on 05/15/2004 11:21:11 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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