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The Low-Down On Zinni (Unsavory Associations, Background Revealed! BUSTED!)
The American Thinker ^ | 5/26/04 | Douglas Hanson

Posted on 05/26/2004 5:06:36 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The latest retired general to voice his concerns over the strategy to topple Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq has been Anthony Zinni.  Naturally, the good general has co-authored a book with (surprise!) Tom Clancy, criticizing the war with Iraq.  The anti-Semitic undercurrent of the general’s interview on 60 minutes is discussed at length in Richard Baehr’s excellent piece  in The American Thinker.  Most Americans know that Gen. Zinni was the former Commanding General of CENTCOM, but few know his previous military background in that theater of operations, nor do they completely understand his current political leanings on the subject of conflict and war.  

Gen. Zinni had been Deputy Commanding General for Operation Provide Comfort, immediately after Gulf War I. But his first command in the region was as the I Marine Expeditionary Force Commander assigned to execute Operation UNITED SHIELD, which was USCENTCOM’s operation to withdraw all UN forces from Somalia in January 1995. By this time, all US forces had already withdrawn under orders from President Clinton and overseen by the CENTCOM commander, Marine Gen. Hoar (retired Gen. Hoar has also come out against Operation Iraqi Freedom).  

In August 1997, Gen. Zinni assumed command of CENTCOM.  During his command, the following major actions occurred in theater:  

- Provided disaster relief to victims of flooding in Kenya.  

- The U.S. Embassies in Nairobi and Tanzania were bombed by terrorists; USCENTCOM responded to the bombings by conducting cruise missile strikes against aspirin factories and nearly deserted terrorist camps of Osama Bin Laden.  

- The U.S.S. Cole was bombed in Aden by al Qaeda. The rules of engagement in force under General Zinni's command enabled the terrorists to approach the Cole close enough to kill our sailors and critically damage the ship.  

- In December 1998, USCENTCOM launched Operation DESERT FOX which was a four-day operation theoretically to delay development of weapons of mass destruction, and to disrupt or destroy Iraq’s national command and control nodes.  

- Gen. Zinni oversaw the large-scale, yet routine Bright Star Exercise, which can trace its origin to the early 80s Rapid Deployment Joint Task Force (RDJTF).  

- Conducted “engagement” operations (whatever that means) with the recently independent Central Asian states of the Former Soviet Union.  

So, it appears that Gen. Zinni and CENTCOM had become very proficient at troop withdrawals, disaster relief, and shooting cruise missiles at empty tents.  To be fair, Gen. Zinni was but the last in line of three CENTCOM commanders (the others being Hoar and Peay), who were essentially outmaneuvered by Iran. Even worse, they allowed a build-up of Iranian forces in the Persian Gulf and the Horn of Africa. These moves were countered by nothing stronger than the strategies of withdrawal (Somalia), shows of force, and the ever-popular but widely misunderstood concept of “engagement.”  

But Gen. Zinni’s current affiliations are even more interesting, given his severe criticism of the President’s actions in the War on Terror and the liberation of Iraq.  It seems the General is a Distinguished Military Fellow on the Washington, D.C. staff of the Center for Defense Information www.cdi.org.  The mission statement for this organization is:  

dedicated to strengthening security through: international cooperation; reduced reliance on unilateral military power [emphasis mine] to resolve conflict; reduced reliance on nuclear weapons; a transformed and reformed military establishment; and, prudent oversight of, and spending on, defense programs.  

A quick glance of the list of people on CDI’s Board of Advisors includes such great military thinkers and left wing activists and donors as:  

- Ben Cohen - Founder, Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc., South Burlington, Vt.  

- Paul Newman - Motion Pictures, Los Angeles, Calif.  

- Joanne Woodward - Actress-Director, Westport, Conn.  

An assessment of CDI during the height of the Cold War highlighted its founding and core philosophy:  

Formed in 1973 as a project of the tax-exempt Fund for Peace(FFP).  CDI and its sister FFP projects - the Center for National Security Studies(CNSS) and the Center for International Policy(CIP) - are spin-offs from projects initiated by the Institute for Policy Studies(IPS), the Washington-based , internationally active revolutionary think-tank.  

CDI’s military members include former military officers, intelligence officers and academics who share attitudes of harsh antagonism toward the U.S. national defense, the U.S. military, the NATO alliance and American foreign policy.  

CDI’s former military officers were frequently quoted by the Soviet propaganda organs to legitimize their attacks on NATO and U.S. defense forces as trigger-happy dangers to peace. Although CDI states it "supports a strong defense but opposes excessive expenditures or forces," it has opposed every major new U.S. weapons system developed during the past two decades - from the B-1 bomber and Trident submarine to cruise missiles, neutron warheads, and stealth bomber - as upsetting the U.S.-Soviet strategic balance while at the same time minimizing the Soviet military buildup.  

To this day, CDI maintains an office in Moscow, Russia staffed by a Mr. Ivan Safranchuk, who is described as a “well-known nuclear analyst in Russia.”  The purpose of the Moscow CDI office is to provide “the Russian media and public with independent, unfiltered information about U.S.-Russian security relations, from nuclear policy to NATO environmental issues.”

This begs the question: What would motivate a retired four-star Marine general to join such an organization as this?

That retired Gen. Zinni would fall in with this bunch makes perfect sense after a stint at CENTCOM that included half-measures against Saddam’s regime and disaster relief operations as his claim to fame.  It’s a shame that he can’t see the failure of the false policy of containment and sanctions that were right in his own backyard, but it’s a scandal that his critique of the current war can’t get beyond the subtle anti-Semitic complaints against people who actually wanted to take action to solve the problem.  

His actions demonstrate that he is in perfect company with Richard Clarke and Joe Wilson.


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; appeasement; appologists; cdi; centcom; clintonista; commie; generalmcclellan; georgebmcclellan; ips; islamofascism; marine; marxist; moscow; red; usmc; zinni; zinnininnies
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To: laconic

Wasn't he the guy helping Jane put flowers in those rifles back in the Nam?

What channel were you watching? Watching the affable Eva Braun of Morning Television perhaps?

Zinni is a shill for Paul Newman. Those are the facts. Why don't we let Paul speak for himself, or see him try to get elected any time soon.


101 posted on 05/26/2004 9:06:53 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. And I say let us give them all they want; not a word of a)
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To: jwalsh07

"I also know that Sean Hannity had him twisted in knots the other night on TV after one simple statement."

Details?


102 posted on 05/26/2004 9:09:38 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: genefromjersey
You're right, of course. A good friend at NSA, confirmed off the record, that Israel was only our ally until someone made them a better offer.

Perhaps he was referring to the Liberty.

103 posted on 05/26/2004 9:10:28 AM PDT by doberville (Angels can fly when they take themselves lightly)
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To: jwalsh07

"Sean that hit him with the right cross after Zinni said it was all lies and distortions by the Bush Neocons. Baddabing!"

A few years ago, Sean was a real crappy host.

He's really grown into his job the last 2 years, though, and is now a pretty good broadcaster.


104 posted on 05/26/2004 9:10:54 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

One of the interesting aspects of the USS Cole bombing that was hiden by the mainstream mediots was the connection of Occidental Petroleum to the unnecessary refueling of the Cole in Yemen.

Who was Vice President at that time? What VP at that time and his father as a US Senator had a long $ relationship with Oxy Pete.

The link below will take you to some interesting articles re Oxy Pete owning the refueling center in Yemen where the USS Cole was bombed.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?x=op&va=USS+Cole+Occidental+Petroleum+Yemen&va_vt=any&vst=0&vd=all&fl=0&vf=all&ei=ISO-8859-1&vm=p&n=20


105 posted on 05/26/2004 9:18:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (America can't afford a 9/10 Jihad Johnny F'onda al Querry after 9/11.)
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To: ravingnutter

WOW, is that an eye opener. Someone ought to send a copy of that to Clancy.


106 posted on 05/26/2004 9:19:43 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

CDI. I'm sure it's a nonprofit. (Oh yes, of course, it's a 501(c)3, according to it's own website on Google search)I'm so tired of these subversive 501(c) whatevers that seem intent on destroying our country while raking in the money. We need real reform and oversight of these institutions or just get rid of them.


107 posted on 05/26/2004 9:34:50 AM PDT by tertiary01 (The left rewards NO virtues)
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To: genefromjersey
[ We are Israel's staunchest ally . Israel is our ally when it suits Israel's purpose." ]

Whos the "WE" Gene.. At least half the "WE"(in the U.S.) are as great a bunch of malafactors as ever has been assembled. Call them democrats but there are many groups in league with the democrats that are variants of the same malfeasance. Isreal would wise to tread carefully in dealing with the U.S.... America is broken, fractured, and polarized according to plan. Its extremely important to know who your dealing with in America, especially in geo-political politics.

Money is the root of all evil some say. Most people don't even know what "money" is. Money is NOT currency. Thats why its the root all evil. Marx and Lenin knew what money is and developed a system to steal it all. Why is it that people don't know what money is ?.. A simple concept very skillfully hidden.. DO you think thats money in your billfold ?

108 posted on 05/26/2004 9:57:58 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: VaBthang4

I spent eight years in the Corps. General al-Zinni is an embarrassment.


109 posted on 05/26/2004 10:09:08 AM PDT by Poohbah (Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Y'know, man... I can't help but notice that every single time I ask a Zinnite to explain away that whole damning CDI thing...?

They immediately go away.

Frankly: I'm beginning to suspect some sort of connection. :)

110 posted on 05/26/2004 10:14:26 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Tom Clancy is pissed at Bush because he wanted to be appointed to some defense advisory board and Bush refused.

Zinni's association with CDI should automatically disqualify him from appearing on any objective news program. As informed a person as I am, I had no idea of this association until I read this thread. CDI and IPS are dangerous Marxist organizations. They have managed to buy off a few of our ex-military men to give them a veneer of respectability on defense issues, but they are hard-core Marxist groups.

Nobody else has brought this up, so I will. A good friend of mine is a former Air Force general who flew in the first Gulf War and most recently commanded an air wing at Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia before it was closed. He told us many stories about how dozens of colonels and generals in all the services quit during the Clinton years. He got promoted to Colonel and General very fast because the Air Force was running out of officers. As a result, I am very suspicious of anyone like Zinni who must have sold out to the Clintons to get the big job as CENTCOM commander. He probably thought he was going to be Joint Chiefs Chairman if Al Gore was elected. He may have a giant ax to grind with Bush. And I'm sure it didn't help that Bush dumped him as Mideast envoy, probably when he found out about the Pakistani deal that was described in the earlier post.

111 posted on 05/26/2004 10:50:15 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (And now, Dems_R_EVIL --- Pukin Dog)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Then the confusion was (clearly) all on your end, then, and not my own. Nothing whatsoever in any of my postings even addresses the CENTCOM issue.

The article that you posted lists all of the activities at CENTCOM in which Zinni was involved.

112 posted on 05/26/2004 12:05:52 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S

I'm still waiting, of course, for whatever whitewash is going to be presented by the Zinnites, inevitably, re: the utterly damning CDI revelation; the topic which I HAVE specifically singled out, repeatedly. Will it be forthcoming at any point in the immediate future, do you suppose?


113 posted on 05/26/2004 12:10:01 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: doberville

I'm not going there,Dobie !


114 posted on 05/26/2004 12:10:34 PM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: VaBthang4

Ah, I'm sure you have some hair-raising Boot Camp Commando stories for us !


115 posted on 05/26/2004 12:12:40 PM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Read "The Sum of All Fears" if you want insight into Clancy as it pertains to Israel, Zionism and the Palestinians.

Clancy is a anti-semite.


116 posted on 05/26/2004 12:14:49 PM PDT by antaresequity (This is not the "War on Terror"...we don't fight tactics.)
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To: genefromjersey

Perhaps, but one thing is certain, unlike you...I actually have a Parris Island story.


117 posted on 05/26/2004 12:27:16 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ( He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps)
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To: VaBthang4
Regale us, oh Salty One !

Tell us how you earned the coveted "POU" Award !

118 posted on 05/26/2004 12:38:02 PM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: MamaLucci

Mama: Zinni has said-on the record- " I like President Bush." He has expressed no interest in supporting Kerry,and gives the impression he does not like the man.

Zinni's quarrel is NOT with Pres.Bush, but with some of
the President's advisers.

The kind of vitriol being circulated about Zinni comes from : Guess where ? Those same advisers ?


119 posted on 05/26/2004 12:46:10 PM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Must be those sneaky neocons again. ;-)


120 posted on 05/26/2004 1:16:17 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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