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Everything on my hard drive got destroyed
May 28 2004

Posted on 05/28/2004 9:58:21 AM PDT by dennisw

60 gigabytes. Never had problems with it. Yesterday Windows XP froze a few times. Then the computer refused to boot up again. Boot sector wiped out? I can deal with that! I then installed this drive as a slave and it wasn't recognized... was invisible.

With Partition Magic this hard drive shows up as 60 gig of (exact words) unallocated space. It had 3 partitions which are now all gone.

I used the Western Digital Utilities and the hard drive checks out as being in good shape. No errors.

I was using Norton Anti Virus. Using a firewall on a cable connection.

I don't see any references on internet to hard drives being killed all at once.

The hard drive was 50% backed up.I will consider a data recovery company if the price is reasonable.


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To: LibKill
Once you have your data back, consider using a hard drive to back up your hard drive. I do this and once you get past the initial expense of a second hard drive, removable drive bay or USB case, there is nothing better. You set it to back up before you go to bed. No disk flipping, no fuss. I back up a lot more frequently now that I have this in place.

Interesting... I got a new computer a couple of months ago & was figuring I'd just get rid of the old one, but now I think I may keep it hooked to our home network, share the hard drive root directory and just periodically back up data on it.

61 posted on 05/28/2004 11:12:02 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: LibKill
No disk flipping, no fuss. I back up a lot more frequently now that I have this in place.

If you're going to back up hard drive to hard drive, consider just using RAID 1 (mirroring). Most modern motherboards have RAID 1 built in. If the hard drive dies, a perfect copy is always right there and you won't miss a bit of work (until you get a replacement drive and rebuild the array).

62 posted on 05/28/2004 11:16:33 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: dennisw
BUMP, BOOKMARK and Good Luck!

(I'm buying a 250Gb this weekend for the Athlon 2800+ toy I'm about to build. Brand unknown - the FRY'S ad doesn't say, but what, WD's are NFG? Anyone else to avoid?)

63 posted on 05/28/2004 11:17:37 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: dennisw
My laptop is slow on the NET.
Not a virus (I have Norton & keep it upgraded) scanned - - - - nothing.
Windows XP
Internet explorer 6
I have tried everything even system restore. I can only go back to may 23 and that is worse.
Any suggestions will be most appreciated! !!
64 posted on 05/28/2004 11:19:15 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Never forget 9/11. Lets Not Forget our Brave Military for keeping us FREE and say Thank You Everyday)
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To: antiRepublicrat
It should still be good to go if it was just a corrupted MFT that caused the problem.

Looks to me like he blew away either the partition table or the entire MBR, not the MFT - nevermind files, he can't even find the partitions. With a low-level disk editor, you can track down the backup boot record (if it's an NTFS disk) and write it overtop the corrupt copy - I pulled that rabbit out of my hat a couple of months ago, but it's not for the faint-hearted ;)

65 posted on 05/28/2004 11:22:47 AM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: dennisw
Gotta run scandisk (there is a XP version in Exporer _drive_ properties) once and a while on any MS operating system product. Gotta!
66 posted on 05/28/2004 11:23:52 AM PDT by veracious
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To: general_re
What, does it come with a multiple-choice exam in the box? Do you activate it by solving a Rubik's Cube or something? ;)

No. The interface is exactly like the full product. You scan the damaged drive and it lists the files it has found, along with their dates and sizes. It just won't allow you to recover files above a certain size. If all your files were small documents, you wouldn't have to buy the product.

When the file allocation table is lost it is tricky to reassemble fragmented files. (This might be an obscure reason to run defrag.) On the NTFS disk I recovered there were multiple "views" of the files. The directory trees were partially lost of scrambled. It took quite a few hours to recover the important documents, but I got everything I needed -- Quicken files, several thousand emails, thousands of image files. I didn't try to recover anything but documents.

67 posted on 05/28/2004 11:25:10 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: dennisw
That happened to me under Windows 2000.

I recovered ALL the data ALL by myself with this GetDataBack.

You'll need to get a new drive, install it and install your windows restore disk or WinXP, whichever works. Then install the 'bad' drive as D Drive and run this software. If the data is there, this program will find it. I got it done all by myself. It was very cool. Someone recommended the Knoppix fast boot CDROM, that's another good way to see the drive from a non-windows point of view.

68 posted on 05/28/2004 11:29:25 AM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: dennisw
Are viruses etc. known to do this? Kill the file allocation table?

Yes.

Just because Microsoft-based products can't see the data, doesn't mean it isn't there.

69 posted on 05/28/2004 11:30:54 AM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: Peter J. Huss

LOL


Backups rule!


70 posted on 05/28/2004 11:34:21 AM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: Veracious Poet
It seems WesternDigital's is having MAJOR quality problems and are no-longer safe to buy.

IBM went out of the drive business over their 60 gig drives. I, of course, bought three of them for myself and for family members. One of the three died, and that is the one I used RT on.

In defense of IBM, it was my fault the partitions were lost. Before I pushed the wrong button, all I had was a drive that booted with a S.M.A.R.T. warning. It still had all the data.

I screwed up trying to use a Maxtor utility to copy from the old to the new. The utility didn't work and while trying to do a fresh install of Windows on the new drive I accidentally deleted the partitions on the old one. The recovery program did get the documents from the old drive, but it was painful and time consuming.

71 posted on 05/28/2004 11:35:15 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: js1138

Hmmm. Perhaps my smiley was too small. ;)


72 posted on 05/28/2004 11:35:49 AM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: Grig

GetDataBack really saved my chestnuts a couple months ago...I can't praise it enough.


73 posted on 05/28/2004 11:36:06 AM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: Sloth
That's a VERY wise move. We have five computers on the home network, and anything truly irreplacable gets backed up on three or four different systems.

Redundancy Rules!

74 posted on 05/28/2004 11:43:51 AM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: dennisw

Step 1: Grab a hammer

Step 2: Beat the _(&)^&(^(%*%*%*&^ out of the hard drive.


75 posted on 05/28/2004 11:51:51 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Service to this Nation...with a smile thrown in for free!)
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To: general_re
nevermind files, he can't even find the partitions.

Neither could I, the disk just wasn't there. But the recovery software took care of it easily, even if it did take forever.

I pulled that rabbit out of my hat a couple of months ago, but it's not for the faint-hearted ;)

Nice trick, but I'm a safety nut and try not to alter a drive that's died. Like you said, not for the faint-hearted, but you pulled it off!

76 posted on 05/28/2004 11:51:53 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Peter J. Huss
Here's a more hard-core Ode to Mr. Thrasher: http://stretta.com/~matthew/other/angry/mp3/helpdesk-reremix.mp3<

Good one!!

77 posted on 05/28/2004 11:57:05 AM PDT by balrog666 (A man generally has two reasons for doing a thing. One that sounds good, and a real one.)
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To: dennisw

I've used "gpart" to recover a couple partition tables in the past. It has the advantages of being free and working with a great variety of partition types. It has the disadvantage of only running (natively) on Linux/FreeBSD:

http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/


78 posted on 05/28/2004 12:05:30 PM PDT by theepengu1n
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To: Grig

If the computer BIOS recognizes the drive then it very likley is not a hardware failure.

Try GetDataBack to recover the data.
http://www.runtime.org/gdb.htm
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Thanks. Am trying get back right now. Hard drive does show up on bios and diagnostic utilities said it was in good shape.


79 posted on 05/28/2004 12:13:58 PM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: antiRepublicrat
The trick is to be sure that the only place you write to is the MBR cylinder, so in a worst-case scenario, you end up no worse off than where you started - with a fried MBR. If you know what you're doing, and you're careful, it's not all that dangerous.

Of course, you could say the same thing about brain surgery or assembling nuclear weapons - if you know what you're doing, and you're careful, it's not all that dangerous. But that still doesn't mean it's a good idea for John and Jane Enduser to take a whack at it ;)

80 posted on 05/28/2004 12:44:19 PM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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