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ABORTION SOARS IN QUEST FOR PERFECT BABIES
http://www.drudgereport.com ^ | 5-30-04

Posted on 05/30/2004 8:43:55 PM PDT by cpforlife.org

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Job 3:1 After this opened Job his mouth, and cursed his day.
Job 3:2 And Job spake, and said,
Job 3:3 Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night [in which] it was said, There is a man child conceived.
Job 3:4 Let that day be darkness; let not God regard it from above, neither let the light shine upon it.
Job 3:5 Let darkness and the shadow of death stain it; let a cloud dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it.
Job 3:6 As [for] that night, let darkness seize upon it; let it not be joined unto the days of the year, let it not come into the number of the months.
Job 3:7 Lo, let that night be solitary, let no joyful voice come therein.
Job 3:8 Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to raise up their mourning.
Job 3:9 Let the stars of the twilight thereof be dark; let it look for light, but [have] none; neither let it see the dawning of the day:
Job 3:10 Because it shut not up the doors of my [mother's] womb, nor hid sorrow from mine eyes.
Job 3:11 Why died I not from the womb? [why] did I [not] give up the ghost when I came out of the belly?
Job 3:12 Why did the knees prevent me? or why the breasts that I should suck?
Job 3:13 For now should I have lain still and been quiet, I should have slept: then had I been at rest,
Job 3:14 With kings and counsellors of the earth, which built desolate places for themselves;
Job 3:15 Or with princes that had gold, who filled their houses with silver:
Job 3:16 Or as an hidden untimely birth I had not been; as infants [which] never saw light.
Job 3:17 There the wicked cease [from] troubling; and there the weary be at rest.
Job 3:18 [There] the prisoners rest together; they hear not the voice of the oppressor.
Job 3:19 The small and great are there; and the servant [is] free from his master.
Job 3:20 Wherefore is light given to him that is in misery, and life unto the bitter [in] soul;
Job 3:21 Which long for death, but it [cometh] not; and dig for it more than for hid treasures;
Job 3:22 Which rejoice exceedingly, [and] are glad, when they can find the grave?
Job 3:23 [Why is light given] to a man whose way is hid, and whom God hath hedged in?
Job 3:24 For my sighing cometh before I eat, and my roarings are poured out like the waters.
Job 3:25 For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I was afraid of is come unto me.
Job 3:26 I was not in safety, neither had I rest, neither was I quiet; yet trouble came.





Job 42:1 Then Job answered the LORD, and said,
Job 42:2 I know that thou canst do every [thing], and [that] no thought can be withholden from thee.
Job 42:3 Who [is] he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
Job 42:4 Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
Job 42:5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
Job 42:6 Wherefore I abhor [myself], and repent in dust and ashes.






Job 42:12 So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.
Job 42:13 He had also seven sons and three daughters.
Job 42:14 And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Kerenhappuch.
Job 42:15 And in all the land were no women found [so] fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.
Job 42:16 After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, [even] four generations.
Job 42:17 So Job died, [being] old and full of days.



Bless the children.


21 posted on 05/30/2004 9:32:32 PM PDT by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: Brandi in AZ
Think about this. The NHS (National Health Service) is "offering" this service to women. This is the same nationalized health care service that's on the verge of going bankrupt(like every government welfare scheme). Think about how expensive it is to provide life-long medical care for a child with a significant deformity. Is this ultimately a cost-cutting move dressed up as "compassion?"

Oh my God, you are *so* right about that! Same reason the 'euthanasia' movement is strong in Europe too!

Funny how we have to compassionate by taxing the productive to support the welfare class... but real compassion goes out the window when it comes to saving lives. Socialism is a prescription for poverty, so inevitably it will lead to the pro-death agenda.

22 posted on 05/30/2004 9:35:20 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: cpforlife.org

These alive little ones are diagnosed to have a 'cruel ailment' (like cleft palate!???) so the liberal leftists societal engineering solution is to administer an even crueler strike by hiring a serial killer to off them from existence. The brave new world of liberalism is frought with serial killing and cannibalism. Ain't it just beautiful you democrat ghouls?


23 posted on 05/30/2004 9:43:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Ack! frought = fraught ... sorry folks, it's late here in the hills.


24 posted on 05/30/2004 9:45:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: CyberAnt

Those people are truly EVIL.
You'd be surprised how many babies are killed when the drs claim there is something wrong when there really isn't.

While I was pregnant with both of my babies, I refused all those tests. No way would I kill my babies, even if there was something wrong. I can't believe how angry the doctors got when I refused. They even made me sign a paper saying I had refused the tests! The tests I refused had a very high % of false positives anyways. I can't understand why they'd still use them.. The only thing I did have done was an ultrasound mid-pregnancy. If there was something wrong, the drs at least could prepare for it before the baby is born. There are surgeries that can even be done on the baby while it's still inside the womb.


25 posted on 05/30/2004 9:45:50 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: cpforlife.org

I worked at an art school for the disabled for a few months. Some of the students there were grossly disfigured. I remember one in particular. She was SO funny, by the time I left I knew I was going to miss her. She had a great personality.

God puts all of us here for a reason with our limitations and disabilities, but even the disabled have gifts to share.


26 posted on 05/30/2004 10:03:06 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: cpforlife.org
With this growing on the birth end of life and
assisted suicide gaining ground on the other end
of life's spectrum. Look for the gap to get smaller
and smaller and time goes by.
Pretty soon only perfect 20 to 30 year olds will be allowed to live. The rest of us will be deemed unnecessary and asked to get out of the way.
27 posted on 05/30/2004 10:34:51 PM PDT by WKB (3!~ What we need is more "Christianity in politics" and less "Politics in Christianity")
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To: Petronski
You got it! I read that book as a teen. I have to get it so my dh can read it and I can re-read. Don't you find all the psycho-drugs being pushed on TV very Brave New World? Shy? take this pill. Nervous? take this pill. Distracted? take this pill.
28 posted on 05/30/2004 10:38:14 PM PDT by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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A few years ago a child in Washington state won an essay (I'm sorry I can't remember the details) stating the case for abortion when the baby had a disability. This child had a sibling with autism and the essay discussed how tough it was for the family. I have an autistic child- I was horrified. I am guessing that child learned the attitude from the parents. I can't ever imagine my kids making an argument like that!
29 posted on 05/30/2004 10:42:03 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: WOSG

"We said NO to screening. If we werent going to kill the baby, you DONT need to know. Screening (ie amneocentesis) is NOT medically helpful (if there is anything seriously deformed an ultrasound will show. Downs Syndrome is *not* a reason to kill a baby."

I did this too. It was my first and I was 39. My first doctors were pro-life and didn't pursue it. My doctor when I moved here was shocked that I refused all that. Sadly, most people believe its just routine and necessary. (and okay to abort). They've been cultivating this "quality of life" attitude for years. :(


30 posted on 05/30/2004 10:45:13 PM PDT by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: conservative cat
A few years ago a child in Washington state won an essay (I'm sorry I can't remember the details) stating the case for abortion when the baby had a disability. This child had a sibling with autism and the essay discussed how tough it was for the family.

Nothing quite says "I love baby brother" more than wishing he had never been born.

31 posted on 05/30/2004 10:47:56 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: WOSG
Screening is OK. I have had it every pregnancy. It's useful to be able to plan for things if given a chance. However, I cannot believe that people just throw away their children because they aren't in "perfect" shape. Interestingly enough, the disability going into epidemic proportions, autism, cannot be screened for. I bet if you ask ANYONE with a child with autism (I have one) if they would now retroactively wish they could have screened for and aborted that child, they would say "Of course not!" Yet they don't see that thousands of children with equally or less serious disabilities are being killed without much of a thought.

Read "Expecting Adam" (nonfiction) if you think doctors are not actively PUSHING for the parents to abort their kids.

32 posted on 05/30/2004 10:55:06 PM PDT by Yaelle
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Thank the March of Dimes for their 'march' to prevent birth defects. It was their campaign to develope better pernatal diagnosing methods.


33 posted on 05/30/2004 10:58:20 PM PDT by eccentric
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To: Yaelle

Another book is "The Tentative Pregnancy" by Barbara Katz-Rothman


34 posted on 05/30/2004 11:14:19 PM PDT by eccentric
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To: cpforlife.org; afraidfortherepublic; AlbionGirl; anniegetyourgun; Aquinasfan; Archangelsk; ...
Just wait until they can identify, through DNA & genetic mapping, whether or not their to-be-BORN-but-already-living babies will someday, maybe, possibly, it-could-happen! --- be LATER diagnosed with cancer, MS, alzheimer's, breast cancer, brain tumors, etc etc etc. Or can they now?
Pro-life, pro-BABY ping!
35 posted on 05/30/2004 11:29:11 PM PDT by cgk (Grave New World, indeed.)
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To: cgk
Several maladies on your list already have genetic markers for suseptibility (MS, breast cancer, diabetes, to name but three).

Fear not, we humans are here because of our spirit component, so when we start to really manipulate the genome, our Creator will end this phase of our collective evolution and begin the next. [As it is said, 'God is not mocked.']

36 posted on 05/30/2004 11:36:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Hitler is applauding from hell.


37 posted on 05/30/2004 11:40:30 PM PDT by twntaipan (When will the second US civil war occur?)
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To: Yaelle

I have been wondering if autism is caused by a mineral deficiancy at infancy. Does anyone really know what causes it?


38 posted on 05/30/2004 11:48:23 PM PDT by Chewbacca (Islam has killed more muslims than any other religion.)
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To: Yaelle
The eugenics movement was finally discredited after the Nazis took it to a monstrous extreme and after the truth was finally known about abuses in other countries (such as in the U.S. exposing African American prisoners to diseases in medical experiments without their consent). Now it seems that the eugenics movement is back, if in a subtler form. Now anyone can have the "perfect" geneticlly-engineered child! The eugenics movement may have had to give up its fetish for blue eyes and blond hair, but there are so many other things to abort a child for -- A cleft palate? Even though this can be corrected with surgery, it is easier to abort the child and start over. Just think of the money the abortionists will make when there is a test for left-handedness!

I do not presume to judge rare, difficult cases where the child would be severely handicapped or severely retarded but the new eugenics movement is taking an unrealistic idea about "perfection" to an extreme in order to abort as many fairly normal children as possible. It seems that as medical science advances and more defects can be fixed surgically in even fetusus, they have to up the standard of "perfection" so there will be more and more excuses for an abortion. And this is usually from leftists who are horrified about genetically enhanced crops and who insist on eating only "natural" food -- they are all excited about genetically altering children for superficial reasons if not aborting them, and some would go so far as to clone untermenschen to use in medical experiments or harvest organs from.

39 posted on 05/31/2004 3:57:44 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; afraidfortherepublic; dead; seowulf; Severa; USA21; alnick; FormerLurker; ...

Autism Bump


40 posted on 05/31/2004 5:09:05 AM PDT by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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