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The Register ^ | 1st June 2004 15:28 GMT | Lucy Sherriff

Posted on 06/02/2004 5:35:40 AM PDT by neutrino

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To: Taliesan; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; ...
You object to Irish companies giving work to American companies?

I do (with reasonable exceptions), especially if the Irish workers get sc****d for the sake of short time profit of some corrupt individuals. I believe in America First, Ireland First, Poland First, Russia First, etc ... policies. Mankind is made of nations and should not become one huge NWO Tower of Babel.

21 posted on 06/02/2004 6:43:44 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: neutrino
It is a nice quote, I agree. Of course, in a REAL conversation, one would demonstrate, not assert.

So I'll do your work for you: how is the question "wrongly stated"?

22 posted on 06/02/2004 6:44:32 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: TXBSAFH
OK, I'll play out the obvious.

So, no companies should give work to other companies who are not "from" their own countries?

23 posted on 06/02/2004 6:46:05 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: Gunslingr3
Are you for or against free trade?

Between states of the United States, I am for it.

Between nations, I am against it.

Between the U.S. and China, I am utterly and absolutely opposed to it.

The originator of free trade, a self-taught economist named David Ricardo, died in 1823. I see no reason to subordinate U.S. economic security to a 19th century amateur economist's misbegotten ideals.

24 posted on 06/02/2004 6:46:37 AM PDT by neutrino (Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences. Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: tm22721
Plant porn on your boss's machine in case you're fired.

Lie, cheat, and steal. Very manly.

25 posted on 06/02/2004 6:47:27 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: Gunslingr3
Trade isn't deplorable, it's the method by which we all improve our standard of living.

When the most of world economy will be integrated in the one tight network run by international companies we all will become one huge Soviet Union (presumably ruled by Antichrist).

The local/representative/national/traditional powers/structures/communisties will be made irrelevant or destroyed. The one global government will become a necessity.

26 posted on 06/02/2004 6:48:36 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Shryke
Quite smart indeed!

The way I see it, as long as I'm keeping them happy, I'm that much more secure. IT people can do a LOT to screw co-workers they don't like.
27 posted on 06/02/2004 6:48:49 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It was nearly midnight before we scraped Uncle Harry off the dining-room table.)
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To: Taliesan
So I'll do your work for you: how is the question "wrongly stated"?

I see. You're a free trade true believer.

Karl Marx was fond of free trade. By all means, support his ideals.

G'day.

28 posted on 06/02/2004 6:50:02 AM PDT by neutrino (Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences. Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: A. Pole

Given the state of American IT, I hold no great faith that just because HP got some work from the Bank of Ireland, it means that American workers got to do any of it.


29 posted on 06/02/2004 6:50:36 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: A. Pole
especially if the Irish workers get sc****d for the sake of short time profit of some corrupt individuals.

Which employees is it acceptable to fire for profit? At what time point does profit become other than "short term"?

30 posted on 06/02/2004 6:50:45 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: Taliesan

Your post made me think you cared about the company. I do not. I care about the people. Case in point my wife drives a Honda, made in Ohio by Americans. As far as I am concerned we bought American. American worker, that is. HP (I speak from painful experience) and many other so called American companies show no loyalty to this country and to its citizens. So I show my loyalty to them. Loyalty is a two way street.


31 posted on 06/02/2004 6:50:55 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 Needs No Justification)
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To: TXBSAFH
Therhave no loyalty efore they for me = Therefore they will have no loyalty from me.

What editor are you using? Must be vi. :)

32 posted on 06/02/2004 6:51:45 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole

I have a laptop which will if you hit the touch pad the wrong way jump the cursor. I also have big hands. I have to watch it.


33 posted on 06/02/2004 6:54:46 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 Needs No Justification)
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To: neutrino
Karl Marx was fond of oxygen. So are you. Ergo, you support his ideals.

I nominate your post for the first illustration of the Marx Variant of Godwin's Law.

You didn't answer the question you yourself initiated: how, precisely, was the question "wrongly stated"?

34 posted on 06/02/2004 6:55:20 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: Taliesan
At what time point does profit become other than "short term"?

This is a key question! If you stop changing oil in your car you cut the costs. Stop saving - consume it now. Do not waste resources on anything that require more than a couple of years to see the results.

A Georgian (near Armenia) proverb: "Great nations plan for generations, poor ones plan for Saturday night".

35 posted on 06/02/2004 6:58:01 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: TXBSAFH
You apparently buy things out of "loyalty". I buy things based on - gasp! - cost and quality.

I don't support bad work nor harm my family's finances out of "loyalty". Such loyalty is at bottom a labor union ideology and is the closest thing to a Marxist sentiment you'll find on this thread.

36 posted on 06/02/2004 7:00:47 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: A. Pole

Companies which sacrifice long-term health for short term profit fail in the marketplace.


37 posted on 06/02/2004 7:01:55 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: A. Pole
That's called being neighborly. You look out for the welfare of yourself, your family, your nieghbors, your friends, and your countrymen in that order -- and then and only then to the rest of the world.

In the Preamble to the US Constitution establishing justice, and insuring domestic tranquility come before providing for the common defense. They have to. In order to mount a defense you have to secure the base first.

In economic terms that means that you want the benefits of your neighbors to have decent jobs in preference to the less direct benefits of corporations having profits pinned to off-shore cheap and slave labor.

If a nation doesn't make sure that happens -- citizens having good jobs as prerequisite to allowing corporations to operate overseas with cheaper labor -- it not only loses the jobs and faults domestic tranquility by so doing -- but it will lose the corporations too.

You neighbors and you will no longer be able to afford that offshored product, and exactly what then will you have to offer to make up for it? Nothing.

38 posted on 06/02/2004 7:04:16 AM PDT by bvw
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To: neutrino

"Free trade, along with the tax subsidized offshoring of American jobs, is a different matter. Free trade makes China stronger, and makes America weaker"

I agree and how can any "civilized" country compete with China's FREE prison labor?! Our country also allows, turns a blind eye to China's blatant pirate copyright slaughtering which has taken low balling to an all new low.
Example: Canadian artist Heather Goldminc collectable works of art generally sell retail for $40.00 to $80.00 per piece. Two weeks ago I finally saw Chinese rip offs of her work in one of those souvenier gas stops for only $8.00 ! That wouldn't even be wholsesale cost in America!


39 posted on 06/02/2004 7:06:07 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: Senator Goldwater

Is surfing porn worse than making porn in the office?


40 posted on 06/02/2004 7:08:45 AM PDT by Little Bush
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