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Black conservative in Netherlands Parliament challenges Islam head on
Ramblings' Journal ^ | 6.7.04 | Michael King

Posted on 06/07/2004 8:46:15 AM PDT by mhking

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Nigerian-born member of Parliament in the Netherlands, has strong views on Islam, much as many do in this country.

She was raised as a Muslim but has recently become agnostic. She has an incredible command of the Dutch langue and is a sharp debater. She abhors woolly, placating rhetoric, which is so typical of Dutch politics. According to a recent poll she ranks second among the most popular politicians in Holland. And her political star is still rising. Yet her political message stirs a lot of controversy, especially among Muslim radicals.

It was the criticism by the late Pim Fortuyn (the Dutch politician who was killed by an animal rights activists) of the impact of Islam on Dutch society which sharpened her awareness of the threat of Muslim radicalism. Fortuyn openly qualified the Islam as a backward religion and Ayaan Hirsi Ali shares this view. When she was still in the socialist party she wanted to put the issue high on the political agenda. But the party did not support her view, because it was afraid that it would play into Fortuyn's hands. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is especially critical of the lack of tolerance for dissenting opinions among Muslims, as well as their oppression of women.

According to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the emotions incited by her statements, especially among radical Muslims, underscores the state of the Islam. (Radical) Muslims are incapable of self-reflection. Consequently, any critical remark is perceived as an offense.

Ali, who would most certainly be considered conservative in this country, has her share of enemies, thanks to her views.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a member of Parliament, recently offered a guy a knife and invited him to stab her when he told her he hoped the "Mojahedin" would kill her due to her sharp and very public criticisms of Islam (he backed down).
She continues to receive death threats from those who oppose her views. More recently, she's had to resort to bodyguards and other protective measures, especially in light of the assassination of Fortuyn, along with continued overt and subtle threats to her life.
Hirsi Ali — who once wrote Islamic prophet Mohammed was a pervert for taking a 12-year-old girl as one of his wives — has frequently been the target of death threats.

The politician wrote in her latest column that she often received death threats by phone and in the mail, but this incident made the biggest impression on her.

Two years ago, she had to hide out in the US for months and these days she is accompanied by bodyguards when in public.

I sometimes wonder about the moonbats here and whether they'd resort to violence to maintain their stranglehold on the minds of black America, if they were ever faced with a substantial challenge to their mentality of collective victimhood.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ayaanhirsiali; blackconservatives; jihadineurope; netherlands
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1 posted on 06/07/2004 8:46:16 AM PDT by mhking
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To: joanie-f

Bump.


2 posted on 06/07/2004 8:51:38 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: mhking

Good lookin chickie, glad she doesnt have a burkha on!!!


3 posted on 06/07/2004 8:51:43 AM PDT by Coroner
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To: mhking

This is awesome news.

The headline actually should have read: Black WOMAN conservative.

That's even more of a poke in the eye to the Moo-slums.


4 posted on 06/07/2004 8:52:09 AM PDT by EggsAckley (............"The democrats would rather win the WH than the war." - Tom DeLay............)
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To: mhking

Wasn't the assassinated PM also a homosexual-rights activist, who warned about the growing Islamic influence in the Netherlands and its effect on "gay rights?" I know he was portrayed as a right-winger for being "intolerant" of immigrants, but does anyone know the whole story?

It will be interesting to see how things play out in the US - will the left demand "tolerance" towards "intolerant" immigrants?


5 posted on 06/07/2004 8:54:00 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: mhking

"Ayaan Hirsi Ali is especially critical of the lack of tolerance for dissenting opinions among Muslims,..."

"Two years ago, she had to hide out in the US for months and these days she is accompanied by bodyguards when in public."

And people wonder why muslims don't speak out against the radicals? Or why they don't attend rallies against radicals/terrorists.


6 posted on 06/07/2004 8:54:51 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: knighthawk; Pharmboy

Dutch bump.


7 posted on 06/07/2004 8:55:11 AM PDT by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: Valin; Eurotwit; knighthawk; F14 Pilot; Luis Gonzalez

Pong


8 posted on 06/07/2004 8:56:43 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Incorrigible

Can we get her to run for office HERE???

It looks like she has the backbone our own politicos lack.


9 posted on 06/07/2004 8:57:36 AM PDT by ZULU (They weree)
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To: cvq3842
Wasn't the assassinated PM also a homosexual-rights activist, who warned about the growing Islamic influence in the Netherlands and its effect on "gay rights?" I know he was portrayed as a right-winger for being "intolerant" of immigrants, but does anyone know the whole story?

If memory serves, the late Fortuyn would have been more of a libertarian in this country if anything.

The party that both he and Hirsi Ali belong to are akin to a more classicly libertarian mindset (i.e., economic/military conservatism, but more moderate in terms of social issues; though Hirsi Ali, as this piece points out, is far more conservative when it comes to the "religion of peace").

10 posted on 06/07/2004 8:57:56 AM PDT by mhking (Am I supposed to grovel and do hail Marys now?)
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To: cvq3842

He was Gay, and he was for reforming the welfare system. He also feared the impact of Islamic immigrants who don't assimilate and bring theocratic ideas with them. He was killed by an animal rights extremist.


11 posted on 06/07/2004 8:58:04 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberalism corrupts. Absolute Liberalism corrupts absolutely.)
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To: mhking
"(Radical) Muslims are incapable of self-reflection. Consequently, any critical remark is perceived as an offense."

Very true. Radical Muslims presume to instruct the rest of the world about Allah, yet they are themselves utterly lacking in self-understanding. Ultimately, it is their own ultra-sensitive egos that they worship, not to mention their own (Arab) race. The whole cult of Mohammed is nothing but the Arab male's institutionalized self-worship.
12 posted on 06/07/2004 8:58:37 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: mhking

Moment of clarity in the Netherlands bump!


13 posted on 06/07/2004 8:59:21 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (God Bless Ronald and Nancy Reagan)
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To: mhking

Let's import her!


14 posted on 06/07/2004 8:59:46 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: mhking
I sometimes wonder about the moonbats here and whether they'd resort to violence to maintain their stranglehold on the minds of black America, if they were ever faced with a substantial challenge to their mentality of collective victimhood.

I think they already do.
15 posted on 06/07/2004 9:01:02 AM PDT by visualops (Let's win another one for the Gipper.)
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To: mhking

Any way we can trade her for Nancy Pelosi?


16 posted on 06/07/2004 9:04:29 AM PDT by Gritty ("Believe me, behind closed doors, there are no moderate Muslims"-Abu Musa)
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To: mhking
Does she have dual citizenship? Nigeria is in a world of hurt because of sharia being instituted in the northern states, and it's only going to get worse. I have indirect contact with missionaries there and things are getting very ugly for all non-Muslims.

While her voice of reason is certainly needed in Europe, it may be even more needed in Nigeria. Unfortunately, her life is going to be in constant jeopardy in Europe or in Africa.

17 posted on 06/07/2004 9:08:49 AM PDT by gracex7 (The LORD is not slack concerning His promise....but is longsuffering to us-ward. 2 Peter 3:9)
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To: mhking

...interesting, and the last paragraph is intriguing, what percentage of black America is muslim i wonder?


18 posted on 06/07/2004 9:09:46 AM PDT by gdc61
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To: mhking
I sometimes wonder about the moonbats here and whether they'd resort to violence to maintain their stranglehold on the minds of black America, if they were ever faced with a substantial challenge to their mentality of collective victimhood.

The "Honorable Elijah Muhammed" fits this bill nicely. Rumor has it that he was behind the murder of Malcom X.

19 posted on 06/07/2004 9:12:26 AM PDT by glorgau
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and the last paragraph is intriguing, what percentage of black America is muslim i wonder?

Good question -- but overall, I fear the NOI far less than those who are so wrapped up in the Jackson/Sharpton cabal that they "ain't got nothing to lose."

I don't know exact numbers, but I'd guess a relatively small portion.

20 posted on 06/07/2004 9:17:05 AM PDT by mhking (Am I supposed to grovel and do hail Marys now?)
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