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Soldiers Reflect on Carrying Reagan's Casket
DoD-AFPS ^ | June 10, 2004 | Kathleen T. Rhem

Posted on 06/10/2004 10:43:14 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

American Forces Press Service 

Soldiers Reflect on Carrying Reagan's Casket

By Kathleen T. Rhem
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, June 10, 2004 – When Justin Rogers and Travis Sullivan were born, Ronald Reagan was president of the United States.

A joint-service honor guard transfers former President Ronald Reagan's casket from a hearse to a caisson during a historic ceremony in Washington June 9. Army Spc. Travis Sullivan, from "The Old Guard" ceremonial unit, is at the left rear. Photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Samuel Shavers, USN
(Click photo for screen-resolution image); high-resolution image available.

The evening of June 9, these two young men, now both Army specialists in the prestigious ceremonial unit, "The Old Guard," were members of the team that carried Reagan's casket up the steps and into the U.S. Capitol.

"I was kind of young (when Reagan was president), but all of my family members told me what a great job he did for our country," Rogers said in an interview at Fort Myer, Va., just moments before their unit, Company E, 3rd U.S. Infantry, departed for downtown to perform their solemn duties. "It's quite an honor."

Sullivan called it "a heck of an honor" to be participating in Reagan's funeral. "He's definitely one of the best presidents we've had in the history of the nation."

Both soldiers were out of town visiting family when they got "the call." But neither needed to wait for the Army to tell them; as soon as they heard Reagan had died, both knew they would be called to duty.

Rogers was visiting his parents in New Jersey June 5 when he heard Reagan had died. When the phone rang an hour and a half later, "I told my parents, … 'That's the Army calling right there. I've got to go back,'" he said.

Sullivan had returned to Wisconsin to see his younger sister graduate from high school. He was working the fields on his parents' dairy farm when the Army reached him.

Sullivan originally was scheduled to be part of the team that flew to California to carry Reagan's casket during official honors there. But he couldn't get a flight out of Wisconsin soon enough to depart for California, and ended up on the Washington-based team instead.

Both men said their parents were extremely proud to have their sons participate in honoring a deceased president.

"My mom was ecstatic," Rogers said. "(She) started crying right there."

Sullivan said his parents thought the honor was "the greatest thing since sliced bread."

The ceremonial movement of Reagan's remains consisted of several steps. A hearse, surrounded by a motorcade, carried the casket from Andrews Air Force Base, Md., to the Ellipse in front of the White House. There, an honor guard transferred the casket to a horse-drawn caisson for the trip up Constitution Avenue to the U.S. Capitol. Sullivan was part of this honor guard.

The eight-man team -- consisting of two soldiers, two sailors, two Marines, an airman and a Coast Guardsman -– marched with the caisson, then carried the casket up the first set of steps of the Capitol.

That is where the logistics got tricky. Because the Capitol has so many steps – reportedly 99 – and the casket weighs about 720 pounds, a second team took over during the casket's journey up the steps. Rogers was a member of this second team.

At the top of the steps, the first team took over again and carried the casket into the Rotunda for the fallen president to lie in state.

The process will be performed in reverse June 11 when Reagan's body is moved to Washington's National Cathedral for a state funeral.

The joint-service nature of this event created an extra challenge for the team members. Each service has its own procedures for funerals and other ceremonial functions. Pretty much every waking hour between June 6 and June 9's event were spent practicing, the team members said.

The troops even practiced going up and down the Capitol steps with a 700-pound casket, with the rehearsals generally lasting late into the night. On June 7 they were at the Capitol steps until midnight. The next night, the practice lasted until 2 a.m.

Both soldiers said this funeral is the largest in scope they've ever participated in, and both were mindful of the worldwide television coverage they'd be part of.

Rogers noted his mother would be watching her television with baited breath. "Trust me," he said with a chuckle, "she's called everyone up she works with, my grandparents, everybody."

Sullivan said the key to containing his nerves is to take it one step at a time. "One day at a time, one rehearsal at a time," he said. "Hopefully today goes off well so we can honor (Reagan) the way he should be honored.

Rogers' and Sullivan's day-to-day job is to be part of the ceremonial detail that performs funerals for veterans in Arlington National Cemetery. "Technically this is like everything we do … every day," he said. "But this is in front of God and country; it's a lot bigger scale."

Despite the scope of the event and the late president's prominence, the soldiers said Reagan would receive the same amount of respect they pay to every veteran whose funeral they perform in Arlington National Cemetery.

"As far as … the amount of respect we pay, it's just the same as everyone else," Sullivan said. "(Fallen service members are) all worthy of the same respect. That's what we preach to each other; that's what we strive to do."

Rogers said he feels a connection with every veteran whose funeral he participates in. "I feel like they're my brothers," he said. "They're my brothers in arms. It's a great honor doing funerals, no matter whose funeral it is.

"They served their country," he continued. "And in the end, I'm putting them back in the ground, showing them that respect. It's the last thing that the family sees."

Army Spc. Justin Rogers, a member of Company E, 3rd U.S. Infantry, is interviewed by Cara Hunt of the Pentagon Channel at Fort Myer, Va., shortly before he participated as an honorary pallbearer for former President Ronald Reagan June 9. Photo by Kathleen T. Rhem
Cara Hunt of the Pentagon Channel interviews Army Spc. Travis Sullivan, an honorary pallbearer during ceremonies June 9 honoring former President Ronald Reagan. Photo by Kathleen T. Rhem
Army Spc. Travis Sullivan, a member of the Army's ceremonial "The Old Guard," poses for a photo outside his unit's headquarters at Fort Myer, Va., June 9. Photo by Kathleen T. Rhem
Army Spcs. Justin Rogers, left, and Travis Sullivan discuss the day's momentous events shortly before they departed to carry the remains of President Ronald Reagan into the U.S. Capitol June 9 to lie in state. Both soldiers are members of Company E, 3rd U.S. Infantry. Photo by Kathleen T. Rhem
Army Spcs. Justin Rogers (left) and Travis Sullivan step out of their unit's headquarters before departing to carry the remains of President Ronald Reagan into the U.S. Capitol to lie in state. Both soldiers are members of Company E, 3rd U.S. Infantry. Photo by Kathleen T. Rhem


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1 posted on 06/10/2004 10:43:17 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
THe only thing I can say is "great Job"


2 posted on 06/10/2004 10:48:11 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

I was discharged in 1994 from the military, and these people in our military of today seem larger than life to me.

What great young people we have!


3 posted on 06/10/2004 10:49:51 AM PDT by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Reagan preferred to shoot the bear... the verdict of history will be simple: nice aim.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

WOW!


4 posted on 06/10/2004 10:52:13 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Thanks for posting this.


5 posted on 06/10/2004 10:54:25 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"the greatest thing since sliced bread."

Simple and sweet! Thanks for the post.

6 posted on 06/10/2004 10:54:33 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: darkwing104

The second set of guys were really straining right before the door to the Capitol.
I really respect the job that all of those young men did yesterday evening.


7 posted on 06/10/2004 10:54:48 AM PDT by WoodstockCat
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To: TEXOKIE; xzins; Alamo-Girl; blackie; SandRat; Calpernia; SAMWolf; prairiebreeze; MEG33; ...
When Justin Rogers and Travis Sullivan were born, Ronald Reagan was president of the United States...
 
The evening of June 9, these two young men, now both Army specialists in the prestigious ceremonial unit, "The Old Guard" ... carried Reagan's casket up the steps and into the U.S. Capitol.

...Sullivan said his parents thought the honor was "the greatest thing since sliced bread."

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Honoring Ronald Reagan
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     WASHINGTON, June 9, 2004 — Members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff salute former President Ronald Reagan's flag-draped casket during the funeral procession for the former president, June 9, 2004, along Constitution Avenue in Washington D.C.
     The former president died of pneumonia June 5 at age 93 in his home in California. On June 9, the body was flown to Washington, D.C., where it will lie in state in the Capitol Rotunda. A state funeral will be conducted June 11 at the Washington National Cathedral. President Bush will give the eulogy. U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Shane A. Cuomo
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8 posted on 06/10/2004 10:55:03 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Thanks for posting. Glad to have even a small connection to this great unit, the 1st Battalion, 3rd Infantry. I served with Co B, 2n Battalion, 3rd Infantry in Vietnam. Also know as The Old Guard.


9 posted on 06/10/2004 10:57:16 AM PDT by Infantry Grunt 1968-69
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

One of the unintended benefits of this whole ordeal is that people are remembering what America used to be like. While viewing the ceremonies yesterday, Michael Savage commented that it was like viewing the America he grew up in. That's how I felt.


10 posted on 06/10/2004 10:57:27 AM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Bump!


11 posted on 06/10/2004 11:01:49 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

They were perfect. I did not see even one misstep. The precision, the dignity, the slow and careful movements just pulled at your heart. Fine job men.


12 posted on 06/10/2004 11:04:15 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Thanks for posting this. Those boys did a fantastic job. The Marine front & right of the caisson was fascinating to watch, he had an incredible stride that never broke the whole way.


13 posted on 06/10/2004 11:05:24 AM PDT by AZamericonnie ("America is too great for small dreams" President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"As far as … the amount of respect we pay, it's just the same as everyone else," Sullivan said. "(Fallen service members are) all worthy of the same respect. That's what we preach to each other; that's what we strive to do."

Rogers said he feels a connection with every veteran whose funeral he participates in. "I feel like they're my brothers," he said. "They're my brothers in arms. It's a great honor doing funerals, no matter whose funeral it is.

"They served their country," he continued. "And in the end, I'm putting them back in the ground, showing them that respect. It's the last thing that the family sees."

14 posted on 06/10/2004 11:06:50 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Virtue is learned at a mother's knee...and vices at other joints.)
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To: Hildy
One of the unintended benefits of this whole ordeal is that people are remembering what America used to be like.

The Dems must just be hating this! The current president is like Pres. Reagan in so many ways. And we're remembering the pride, the dignity...

15 posted on 06/10/2004 11:09:15 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Spc Sullivan went through basic and Airborne with my son. They are both from Wisconsin and had actually wrestled each other one year in High School. I drove down to their Airborne graduation and brought them home with me for their first leave. My wife and I had also gone down to Ft Benning at Thanksgiving. We borrowed my wife's niece's home (She and her husband lived on post)and made a bunch of their buddies one fine old fashioned Thanksgiving dinner. Pictures are posted on our website.

http://www.theliechtys.com/OSUT_Friends.htm
http://www.theliechtys.com/Thanksgiving.htm


16 posted on 06/10/2004 11:11:06 AM PDT by american_ranger
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Old Guard Bump


17 posted on 06/10/2004 11:14:18 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I'm as bored as a pacifist's pistol.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I suspect that a dairy farm boy from Wisconsin will have little trouble carrying his share of the 720 pound casket. Years ago, when we were living in the UP, we had the 17 year old son of a Wisconsin dairy farmer, who went to our church, deliver some bales of hay to us so we could mulch our garden. While my husband struggled to carry one bale at a time up the hill, this kid took two in each hand and carried four at a time with no problem at all. My husband was humbled.
18 posted on 06/10/2004 11:14:55 AM PDT by stayathomemom
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bump


19 posted on 06/10/2004 11:15:15 AM PDT by ELS
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory
What great young people we have!

AMEN!

Thank you for your service!

20 posted on 06/10/2004 11:18:32 AM PDT by auboy
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