Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Ten

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[JustPiper]

Picture credit: TheCabal

"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

LINK TO THREAD NINE

U.S. Charges Australian Linked to al-Qaida

WASHINGTON - An Australian held at the Navy's prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, will face a military tribunal for allegedly training and fighting alongside members of al-Qaida in Afghanistan (news - web sites), the Pentagon (news - web sites) announced Thursday.

We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

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[Velveeta]

You've said what I feel.

But the WAY you say things, Nothingman....is a gift.

You'll believe me when I tell you that tears are streaming down my face.

We need you here. I need you here.
*****
There ARE things we can do. There are peaceful changes we can advocate.

I've got ideas, but need partners in faith...

Whether Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist or whatever.

Goodness will prevail.

[Velveeta]

Oh oh.

[Velveeta]

June 23rd.

They won't be here today. Focus is on Iraq.

[liberallyconservative]

Very sobering and thought provoking.

I offer no excuses for my silence; in a world gone crazy, the temptation to make such utterances is oftentimes overpowering. I cast no stones, for those very thoughts have crossed my mind if not my lips. Does that make it right to say such things? No. Does it mean that if given the chance we would act on it? Speaking for myself, No again.

It is our way of venting at the engulfing unfairness of planes being flown into buildings and nightly beheadings on the 6 o'clock news. It's the same way I bitch about inept management in my workplace. I may scream out against favoritism and ineptitude of all management, when in actuality I mean only a fraction of offenders within the ranks.

I DO NOT lump an entire group of people into a category; the terrorists we are talking about here are Muslim (and they make that fact abundantly clear), and not all Muslims are terrorists. BUT: the very silence you damn us for is echoing loudly in the Muslim community wholesale. If they do not ascribe to the deplorable actions of a renegade few, then let them voice their disapproval. The silence is deafening, save for a brave few.

Better yet, let the peacable Muslims root out the evil among themselves; they are in a unique position to do so, but I haven't seen that happening. It is widely reported there are over 200 terrorist cells already within the borders of this great nation. I doubt they are existing in a vacuum, but I hear of no mosques turning over members of Al Qaeda, Hizbollah or Hamas. And yet we report crimes on a daily basis because we want the perpetrator to be caught and peace to prevail, even if the one who committed it is blond-haired, blue-eyed and a "Christian."

I do not view all Muslims as the enemy, and I doubt few here do. When we categorize an entire religion or race as "evil" we run the risk of echoing the damnable rhetoric of Hitler. I have an uncle who gave his life to help ensure the rest of the world did not fall into the clutches of Nazism. I do not want to lose any more of my precious family to a similar cause.

Do we, as law-abiding US citizens deserve to live in fear of what the next terrorist group is going to threaten or even carry out against this great nation just because we are a free people? Why do the terrorists hate us so much? Is it because we have taken our freedom to the extreme? Freedom to drink, so we drink 1 or 2 or 10 and then get behind the wheel and leave a mother to mourn the son we mowed down in our excess. Freedom of access, so we download porn to our computers and leave our families in ruins. Is this why they hate us? They see our freedom taken to extreme because we fail to see that with freedom comes responsibility.

So I guess what I'm saying is... there must be a balance to everything. We cannot afford to live in a vacuum of ignorance, and yet we cannot judge with a harsher standard than that which we want for ourselves.

[Velveeta]

FOFL! Welcome.

[Velveeta]

OK, that weirded me out.

[Velveeta]

95% of that bunch have not stepped up ONCE

A few brave ones have...but we haven't listened.

[Letitring]

Vel, I'm sorry, but I just don't see anything he said as being profound. What did I miss? Help me out here. I certainly don't see any of us, on this board, advocating terrorism and resent the implication.

Perhaps I'm just testy today, but his post really grated my nerves. We've endured so much in order to keep on trying to dig up and ferret out information. Then, when someone comes along and slams our efforts, no matter how meager they might be, well, it just didn't set well with me.

It's obvious you read something in his post that I didn't. I'll reread, for what must be the 10th time and see if I can discover what it is.

[Velveeta]

sick

[Velveeta]

If a terrorscum was in your view attempting to blow something up, release chemicals or trying to kidnap you or a friend wouldn't you shoot if you could?

Without a doubt, YES, I would.

Remember they want US all dead.

The terroists want us dead, yes. But, not ALL Muslims. They don't all want us dead.

[thecabal]

Excellent post! You said just about everything I have felt. Very, very good response.

[Velveeta]

Thank you, Pegita.

GOD!

[Quix]

Good news. A bit surprising.

Guess they don't need extra heat on top of the searious heat they are earning in other ways.

Maybe it was a probe of our responses.

And the data collection is done so why not release?

[Quix]

THX.

[Velveeta]

I'm game for burying the jihadis in pigskin and any and all pork products.

I can't support retaliatory beheadings. Then we would be like them.

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

Add this to the mix...the Jews would rather have a Muslim America and fight them as need be. It is a scary world. Great read But long.


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Just the other week I was telling a secular, leftist Jew of my acquaintance, a man in his late sixties, about my idea (which I've proposed at FrontPage Magazine) that the only way to make ourselves safe from the specter of domestic Moslem terrorism is to deport all jihad-supporting Moslems from this country. He replied with emotion that if America deported Moslem fundamentalists, it would immediately start doing the same thing to Jews as well. "It's frightening, it's scary," he said heatedly, as if the Jews were already on the verge of being rounded up. In the eyes of this normally phlegmatic and easy-going man, America is just a shout away from the mass persecution, detention, and even physical expulsion of Jews. Given the wildly overwrought suspicions that some Jews harbor about the American Christian majority who are in fact the Jews' best friends in the world, it is not surprising that these Jews look at mass Third-World and Moslem immigration, not as a danger to themselves, but as the ultimate guarantor of their own safety, hoping that in a racially diversified, de-Christianized America, the waning majority culture will lack the power, even if it still has the desire, to persecute Jews.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1158727/posts

[StillProud2BeFree]

Now they are reporting that the release is going to be delayed.

[Quix]

I tend to have similar personal experiences.

With this one, groping for a solution, myself.

I think GOD IS DETERMINED to be the ONLY solution on this one.

[freeperfromnj]

POSSIBLE CHEMICAL LEAK AT ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND

Special Army unit investigates report of seepage of possible mustard agent

The Associated Press
Originally published June 23, 2004, 12:19 PM EDT

ABERDEEN -- A special Army unit was investigating a possible container leak at the Aberdeen Proving Ground Wednesday after an early morning alarm signaled the possible release of a mustard agent.

The base notified Harford County emergency officials at 9:20 a.m. but reported an hour later that there was no danger to the county.

The alarm sounded in an igloo-shaped building at the base's Chemical Area Storage Yard, according to an Aberdeen Proving Ground press release.

While the alarm indicated the presence of mustard vapor inside the building, it was not detected outside.

The Army's Technical Escort Unit was searching for a possible leak in one of the containers.

Mustard agent -- a banned, carcinogenic liquid that blisters the eyes, skin and lungs -- has been stockpiled at the base since World War II. The Army last year announced accelerated plans to destroy the chemical.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-aberdeen0623,0,1311813.story?coll=bal-local-headlines