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The Abortion Issue Has Little, if Any, Effect on the Catholic Vote
LA Times ^ | June 18, 2004 | Fr. Andrew Greeley

Posted on 06/28/2004 9:20:04 PM PDT by Coleus

Few are swayed by a candidate's pro-choice policy.

"Will Catholics vote against Gov. Carter, Mr. Mayor, because of his abortion stand?" The mayor of Chicago stared at the reporter with the bemused frown he reserved for silly questions. "They don't vote that way." Twenty-eight years later, they still don't vote that way. Nevertheless, in the run-up to the last seven presidential elections, experts on both sides have predicted that the "Catholic anti-abortion" vote would cause trouble for the Democrats, especially given the drift of Catholics from Democratic alignment. Both these "theories" — a Catholic anti-abortion vote and a Catholic realignment — are urban folk tales that float around in the collective consciousness of the media with very little basis in fact.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: andrewgreeley; andytheidiot; apostate; catholiclist; catholicvote; fool; frandrewgreeley; greeley; liberal
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To: Aquinasfan

A & P, CAPE, Hatched/Matched and Dispatched Catholics


41 posted on 06/29/2004 10:22:39 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus
The Abortion Issue Has Little, if Any, Effect on the Catholic Vote

I guess it all depends on how you define the "Catholic Vote."

If you include everyone who went through First Communion 20 years ago who now go to Mass on Christmas and Easter, then yes, that's probably true.

If someone were to poll actual practicing Cahtolics who attend Mass every Sunday at a minimum, I suspect the numbers would be a lot different.

42 posted on 06/29/2004 10:24:15 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Who is Jack Chick?


44 posted on 06/29/2004 2:59:14 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: bejaykay
I wonder does Eagle call his own father "father"

Aks me yourself. Actually, I call my father "pops". And I don't have to kneel and kiss his ring when I do it.

What's up with that anyway? Is that in the Bible? Or the Catechism or whatever book Catholics use.

45 posted on 06/29/2004 3:10:01 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

What's up with that whole catechism thing? Why isn't the Bible good enough for you people?


46 posted on 06/29/2004 3:19:09 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Aquinasfan

Where does it say thou shalt jump through myriad hoops before being declared a Saint?


47 posted on 06/29/2004 3:20:53 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: G Larry

Why do you pray to dead people like the Virgin Mary? Did she die on the cross to cleanse you of your sins and heal you of your sicknesses?


48 posted on 06/29/2004 3:22:41 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Coleus
But then again they are on the outside looking in, it must be very frustrating.

Ohhhhh...so that's what it's all about, eh? It's not just a political organization, it's also a country club.

49 posted on 06/29/2004 3:25:13 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Coleus

The abortion issue has not been an issue with Catholics since it became legal. Socialism and government programs are their hot buttons and why they vote fro Demoncrats. Oh, pardon me, "social justice" via economic or otherwise is a winning issue with Catholic Demoncrats.


50 posted on 06/29/2004 3:27:46 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Texas Eagle
Call No Man "Father"?
51 posted on 06/29/2004 3:28:44 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Texas Eagle

"Catholicism is more of a political organization than it is a spiritual one."

NO doubt about it.

Ignore the truth bashers ... those that are Catholic who can't handle the truth.


52 posted on 06/29/2004 3:29:08 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: B Knotts

Yeah, you know. As in Il Papa.


53 posted on 06/29/2004 3:30:47 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Texas Eagle
Praying to the Saints
The Intercession of the Saints
Mary: Mother of God
54 posted on 06/29/2004 3:32:39 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Texas Eagle
It's a link to an article discussing the topic.

I post it there not only for your perusal, but for others who wish to know what the Catholic position is.

55 posted on 06/29/2004 3:33:59 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
As the apostolic example shows, some individuals genuinely do have a spiritual fatherhood, meaning that they can be referred to as spiritual fathers. What must not be done is to confuse their form of spiritual paternity with that of God.

So if your priest molests little boys do you still call him Father?

56 posted on 06/29/2004 3:34:54 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: nmh
Democrats Secret Weapon - How American Bishops Kept Abortion Legal for Thirty Years

Catholic Campaign for Human Development Donations Fighting Wal-Mart and Embracing Sin

Catholic Campaign for Human Development?

CCHD [Catholic Campaign for Human Development] Continues to Fund the Left

57 posted on 06/29/2004 3:36:37 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Texas Eagle

Are you saying that all priests are molesters?


58 posted on 06/29/2004 3:37:23 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
Way to dodge the question. Observe as I demonstrate how to answer a question.

No.

Now try again. If your priest molests little boys do you still call him Father?

59 posted on 06/29/2004 3:41:29 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Texas Eagle
What kind of a stupid question is that? If he does that, he is subject to criminal and canon law, and laicized. Then, his title would be removed. So, ultimately, no.

That's like saying if your Senator embezzles money, do you still call him "Senator?"

60 posted on 06/29/2004 3:43:47 PM PDT by B Knotts
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