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Bush Strategist: Race will "swing wildly" in Kerry's favor within a month [15 pts lead]
AP ^ | July 5, 2004 | LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 07/05/2004 2:02:13 PM PDT by nwrep

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To: nwrep
C'mon! This is a classic case of lowering expectations. No doubt Kerry will get a big bounce with his VP selection in the upcoming DNC convention. But 15 points? C'mon!

I'm thinking Kerry will go ahead 52-44 in national polls when all is said and done. But by the time of the RNC convention in early September, Bush will be back up by 50-45.

21 posted on 07/05/2004 2:13:09 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Manos - The Hands Of Fate)
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To: thoughtomator
In that case, Kerry should not announce his VP pick until the day before the election.

Otherwise he peaks way to soon. </sarcasm>

22 posted on 07/05/2004 2:13:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: jimbo123

Thanks, jimbo, I started breathing again.


23 posted on 07/05/2004 2:15:19 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nwrep
Count me as those who don't actually believe this... I think that Kerry perhaps swing 15 points, from about 7 behind to 7 in front, but that it will be short lived and things will return to more or less how they are now after the GOP convention...

I also think that FatMoore's F911 will start having a pendulum effect. People who see it will nod their head enthusiastically, and then start entertaining doubts about the propaganda. In particular, folks will start looking around for confirmation to what Moore claims, and won't find it, just criticism, even from honest guys on the left. It seems to me that at some point folks will feel sheepish about having fallen for it, and if the economy is going well, and Iraq seems to be going well (which is definitely the case since the handover), then these folks may end up changing their vote from Kerry to Bush... particularly is Bush can ask THIS question:

Would you feel another 9/11 is more or less likely if John Kerry were President in 2005?

24 posted on 07/05/2004 2:15:54 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: chilepepper
A vote for Kerry is a vote for Bin Laden.
25 posted on 07/05/2004 2:16:42 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: FairOpinion
He should be fired.

I expect a large swing towards Kerry due to the fawning coverage of the media, but your suggestion is not too bad. Bush has actually made a comback in the last month, but the campaign for most of the year has been lackluster.

26 posted on 07/05/2004 2:18:25 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: thoughtomator

This is based on the theory that the average American has a tiny attention span and can only remember what they saw on TV ten minutes ago. After the Democrat convention in 2000 Al Gore had a big surge. I knew one woman who said that for the first time in her life she was thinking of voting for a Democrat. Now I did not watch the convention but Al Gore had been a presidential candidate as long ago as 1988. What new looks could possibly have come from the convention? The thing that does scare me about this election is that with all the talk of what a jerkoff Kerry is, he is still tied for the lead. If he ever does start campaigning effectively what happens. Of course if the econmy stays good and Iraq improves Bush should win.


27 posted on 07/05/2004 2:18:45 PM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: FairOpinion
I think Bush's strategist shouldn't be running around making such predictions, he should be working on a strategy to make sure it does NOT happen.

Don't take it so hard. This is the Bush camp playing the expectations game. There's only a few % points out there to swing. Kerry will pick up a few of the undecideds between now and the week after the 'Rat convention. But they'll still be largely undecided and after priming the pump for a huge 15% point swing, when that doesn't happen the Bush campaign can rightly point out that the public is not very excited about the 'Rat nominee.

Bush is going to clean Kerry's clock in November.

28 posted on 07/05/2004 2:18:48 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: thoughtomator
Where in the world would those 15% come from?

Easy. They will just start polling "registered and unregistered humanoids"

All kidding aside they will release polling data showing Kerry leading by 20 points among adults nationwide or a 15% lead among voting age adults.

It won't mean a thing because the numbers for likely voters will be static.

29 posted on 07/05/2004 2:19:05 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.)
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To: nwrep
Kerry's VP selection really won't matter. Unless it's Hitlery, which in case, I would expect them to win in November.

This election will be a referendum on the incumbent president, like most presidential elections are.

30 posted on 07/05/2004 2:19:05 PM PDT by Mulder (To be born free is an accident,to live free is your duty,to die free is your obligation. Wm. Coulter)
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To: thoughtomator
"Fluctuating wildly," huh?

What a complete joke.

31 posted on 07/05/2004 2:20:02 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: chilepepper
Would you feel another 9/11 is more or less likely if John Kerry were President in 2005?

They won't *need* another 9/11 if Kerry is elected--Kerry will surrender to the Islamofascists without a fight.

32 posted on 07/05/2004 2:20:41 PM PDT by John Thornton
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To: All

Bush team knows its Hillary. Damn, just seeing that ***** in the White House again is making me sick.


33 posted on 07/05/2004 2:20:56 PM PDT by afraid
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To: jimbo123

The "Gore jump" was:

Forty-seven percent of likely voters said they would vote for Vice President Gore and Conn. Sen. Joe Lieberman, compared to 46 percent of those who picked Texas Gov. George W. Bush and former Defense secretary Dick Cheney.

It's way past time for the Bush team to pull out all the stops. They sat on their hands, while the Democrats were bashing Bush about Iraq for a year, doing a great deal of damage to Bush's ratings and poll numbers. The Bush team said, they really will get with the program, after there is a Dem nominee -- well, Kerry has been around pounding Bush for several months now, and the Bush team only makes a few feeble attemps, they mostly react, instead of really going on the offensive. Where were they, why didn't they change the topic, while the two months long Abu Ghraib was on the front pages for two months?

Now they are telling us that they will continue to sit on their hands, while Kerry is going to get a 15 point boost?

Do you really think that with the divided electorate, if Kerry gets that kind of a boost, Bush will be able to close it and actually win?

I am one of Bush's most ardent supporters, I want him to win, I dread a Kerry presidency.

The Bush team better get very strong and proactive not soon, but right now. If they aren't willing, Bush should fire the lot of them and get some people with some fire in them.


34 posted on 07/05/2004 2:21:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: jimbo123
actually the post convention bump could conceivably end up very small - it all depends on how smart the Dems play it.

If they let the convention become a 4 day angerathon of venom and Bush bashing it could have a detrimental effect on thier numbers.

I used to marvel at the Dems power to fool people, but I am geniunely unsure if they can control themselves this year.

35 posted on 07/05/2004 2:21:08 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: nwrep

Yeah, BUT this is KERRY, I doubt he is going to be enjoying any sudden change of hearts.


36 posted on 07/05/2004 2:21:12 PM PDT by The Bandit
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To: Mulder

Except the rats are going to pick the smartest, sexiest, most compassionate, efficientest, bestest, most noble human that has ever lived to be VP. It doesn't matter who that is, as soon as he (she is picked), that will be the case.

They could pick a lawn chair and press would orgasm over how great that pick is.


37 posted on 07/05/2004 2:21:15 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: tkathy

"light-weights" is an understatement. "Wimps" are closer.


38 posted on 07/05/2004 2:21:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: nwrep
History (i.e., past polls at this time -- Gallup, etc...) tell us that, depending on who the VP choice is, the swing will be at least 5% and as high as 15%, but likely in th 8-10% range. Three weeks after the convention, it's almost even again, then the Repub. convention.
39 posted on 07/05/2004 2:23:34 PM PDT by CWW (Just Say No To Kerry!!)
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To: RichInOC

"Then I got around to my second thought, which was closer to yours, that maybe he's trying to sandbag Kerry."

That's just wishful thinking -- as I said in another post -- they keep telling us they will get their act together 'tomorrow' -- at this rate it will be AFTER Nov. 2.

Look at the recent history for the past year -- they just let the Dems attack Bush and define the issues, they barely reacted.

I am no particular fan of Dick Morris, but he said, he started Clinton's reelection campaign 14 months before the election -- that is the way to win, not by conceding all the advantage to the opponent, falling further and further behind, than wishing for a miracle.


40 posted on 07/05/2004 2:24:45 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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