TWENTY SUITCASE NUKES ALREADY IN THE UNITED STATES

NewsMax.com ^ | July 14, 2004 | Joan Swirsky

[CHARLITE]

I beg you to read Mrs. Swirsky's latests NewsMax.com column with the utmost serious attention. Why isn't the information being widely publicized concerning the existence of 20 suitcase nuke bombs set and ready to be exploded any day now, in 20 American cities? Is this "John-John" team the one we want to deal with this horrific threat to America?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/14/92015.shtml

Charlotte Baker Valley Village, CA.

[unspun]

Didn't you know?
Suitcase Nukes are featured in the latest Sharper Image Catalog. Just the ticket for the jet-set terrorist.

[SGTARKyTEK]

According to Paul Williams in his book Osama's revenge . the soviets planted possibly hundreds of suitcase nukes in the states during the coldwar. they just have to be assembled.

[Hollywoodghost]

REPETE AFTER ME--There are No suitcase Nukes! If they had one-- they would have used it in 2001-2002 or 2003. One Taxi cab rolling down Wall Street would have taken down the whole economic system. NO, these guys can talk up all sorts of things but they are all from whole cloth. Next it will be Photonic Cannons and giant killer robots. When they hit us it will be with something simple--not complex. If they had suitcase bombs why use airliners? This is just so much fear mongering. Next thing they will say that Osama has UFOs given to him my the lizard races of Venus.

[unspun]

There are probably 2000 suitcase nukes inside the country and they are all in the hands of the military.

We wouldn't have to worry if our Strategic Suitcase Defense Shields were set up.

Searching ebay for "antisuitcase suitcase...."

[Hollywoodghost]

NO! They would never use them on Boston--They would want Kerry to win. They would--if they had such a bomb--use it in New York to kill the hated President Bush.

[Chad Fairbanks]

But are they still viable, even if this were true? Somehow, I doubt it...

[maestro]

Your post # 56.......very interesting.

Ah,...maybe,....'suitcase-nuke'.... is one of many synonym-code-words for any/all terrorist delivered WMD.

Fill in the blank for a type of WMD.... 'suitcase- __________'... device!

What '__________' is able to de-stabilize any/all areas of any given range of population/assembly/dependence?

The threat is real in my opinion.

9-11,......did happen!

The 'suitcase-_______________-pass' was as small as an airline ticket!

The 'suitcase-____________-pass was the U.S. Postal System.

etc.,.....etc,.......etc,.......

:-(

[Poohbah]

According to Paul Williams in his book Osama's revenge . the soviets planted possibly hundreds of suitcase nukes in the states during the coldwar. they just have to be assembled.

Uh-oh...

The KGB routinely lost track of their caches in America. Ironically, the cause was capitalism and its process of creative destruction. Basically, the Russians would bury the stuff on the outskirts of the town they were interested in. A few years later, they'd look for the pine tree next to the pond, and all they'd see would be a strip mall and a couple fast-food joints.

Wonder how Osama's gonna find the stuff.

[Poohbah]

We wouldn't have to worry if our Strategic Suitcase Defense Shields were set up.

They are. They're better known as airport baggage handling systems.

[mlbford2]

~~You might want to rethink whether putting your full name & town on an open forum is a good idea.~~

I would have to agree. Although most of us here at FR are fairly benign, there is always the danger of the loose nut who thinks your hot and just has to meet you.

[Bald Eagle777]

One major caveat. Automatically characterizing potentially missing "fissile material" or "weaponized plutonium" as "briefcase" devices is misleading.

Secure storage of weaponized plutonium, fissile material and any form of nuclear, chemical or biological materials is key, regardless. And yet, the potential delivery and ignition devices used may vary. Many hold forth a threat scenario that NBC materials are used in a so called "dirty bomb," which may or may not be the size of a "briefcase" incidentally. Truck, airborne or seaborne threats can not be discounted. Some hypothesize that North Korea may try to use a missile as a delivery system. Others have varying theories as to how a non-state terrorist actors like Al Qaida may try to deliver a nuclear, biological or chemical agent.

The most plausible theory is a large truck or seaborne delivered device with a passive NBC agent being detonated by some explosive device(s).

When nuclear materials go missing from Central Asia, all potential delivery systems have to be examined carefully and a contingency plan for each and every one must be set up for CONUS.

[hchutch]

*Initiating Nelson Muntz mode*

HA! HA!

[mlbford2]

~~ a freeper stated that the trigger on these devices had a shelf life of 60 days. ~~

I've heard many things on this issue on the FR board. I think we might have the largest community of Nuclear Physicists of any board anywhere.

[Chad Fairbanks]

there is always the danger of the loose nut who thinks your hot and just has to meet you

Happens to me three, four times a year. I have to move constantly... sigh... it's the proce I pay for being hot...

[Southack]

The smaller the nuke, the shorter the shelf life.

The less shielding that you have, the sooner that your electronics and conventional explosives deteriorate from the radiation.

The less fissionable material that you have, the faster you generally need your atomic trigger isotopes to emit neutrons. The faster you emit neutrons, the shorter your half-life. The shorter your half-life, the less time that you have before the nuke simply fizzles instead of booms.

This is simple physics. Moreover, heavy metals like uranium and plutonium are among the most brittle materials known to man, and the slightest bit of humidity turns them into uranium oxide or plutonium oxide (i.e. worthless rust).

So a "suitcase nuke" from 1996 is likely little more than a rusted, shattered, fragmented collection of wiring and explosives today.

13 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

[mlbford2]

~~ Suitcase Nukes are featured in the latest Sharper Image Catalog~~

yeah, if you buy two they throw in a life size replica of Darth Vader for free.

[Southack]

c#95

[hadaclueonce]

I had one, used it on my yard for fire ant and flea control...worked great!

[rwfromkansas]

Based on the Paul Williams book....not any new info.

[Kozak]

The stupidest thing about these stories is that it would be easier for an organization to build or buy a huge intercontinental ballistic missile system to deliver the payload than suitcases. Why do think we developed the missile system???? Do think all our pentagon scientists are walking around swatting their selves on the heads going "Gosh Darn! Why didn't we think of that? Those cunning arabs!".

Those things were developed by the Soviets to be smuggled into Western Europe and the US. As part of a first strike, or to decapitate us as an initial act of war. Also as the equivalent of huge satchel charges for conventional warfare ( say blowing up a marshalling area in a port). While I don't believe the Islamanazi's have these, there is no doubt they exist in the former Soviet Union.