Posted on 07/19/2004 5:34:10 AM PDT by runningbear
Of course men are "complicit," by definition. They follow the course of least resistance.
Throughout the history of our culture, women have understood that they are a "civilizing influence" on men. When women give up that role, men are far more likely to be "uncivilized."
One of the biggest ironies of the women's movement is that, in the name of "equality," young women are being conditioned to behave like the fantasies of the most selfish, irresponsible men. Making themselves easily sexually available, with no strings, and no responsibility placed upon the men. How can they be so stupid?
By the way. For the others on the thread, this was just an aside. I was just struck by the stupidity of Amber's remark.
I agree that it has no bearing on the credibility as a witness. I think Scott is guilty, and I hope he "Freys."
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
Amen, amen, amen!
I want to hear VERY SOON that they've put into evidence many more of the things that we have found out--things that strongly point to guilt. No. 1 on my list right now is the sign Scott made. (You've seen it, haven't you? It's very eerie.) In it he speaks of Laci as one would speak of the dead.
And then they'll play the Sawyer interview in which he referred to her as being "at peace".
And in closing arguments, the prosecutor MUST take those two statements by Scott, the sign, and the Sawyer remark, and tie them together, and ask the jury, "WHO is at peace? The dead!! To WHOM would you speak when they are not physically present? The dead!! WHO might you 'feel' has answered you when they are not physically present?? The dead!! And ladies and gentlemen, he said these things in JANUARY, full THREE MONTHS before the bodies were found!"
Must have been, and we are still feeling the effects!
(I thought they had to be back in the asylum by daybreak... lol!)
I think Geragos has a plot to put the jury into a coma with his detailed cross, repeating and questioning each tiny bit of testimony and search action ..whether it is important or just monotonous...He wanted to be sure the jury understood the police found nothing in the bay despite massive searches, (therefore implying Laci was never there?)
I think the policeman will be back with the sex offender/ parolees investigation report so Geragos can imply they obviously overlooked likely killer of Laci, did a sloppy investigation, withheld this from the defense, another red herring.
LOL...kinda like vampires?? ;o)
By the way, I totally agree with your take on the "at peace" remark. As a matter of fact, when you so correctly pointed out that the dead are at peace, it gave me the willies.
I completely agree with you about the so-called women's movement. There certainly is a rich irony there, which you have aptly pointed out.
A further humorous irony is found when we consider that so-called feminists have repeatedly pushed passage of ridiculously nitpicking laws which purport to control how men and women treat each other. I will resist the urge to say that these "sexual harassment" laws are an attempt to push heterosexuality into a closet.
But the irony is that these "free-thinking feminists" come off sounding like overly-straitlaced Victorians. They appear to be worried that a man might somehow harm an unescorted woman by speaking to her without the proper respect. I can't help but laugh when I think how they have painted themselves into a corner.
all Geragos can do is distract the jury after his past performances on LKL where he stated Snott was the one LOL
IMO, Amber's father is kind of flaky.
The fact that he prefaces his public statements by saying, "I do not speak for Amber, nor for her attorney" tells me that they are trying very hard to rein him in.
He sounds like he wants to hog center stage. Sorry, Dad, this ain't about you. Period. And, come to think of it, it ain't really about your daughter, either.
I don't think so right at first maybe after a few days but not right away.
I was just reading the interview with Detective Allen Brocchini and there were a few things Scott said that you can just hear the loathing for Laci in those statements.
Here are the comments that perked my ears up.
1. In talking about the mop bucket Scott says: "Yeah she's, ya know, 8 months pregnant, ah can't pick it up for anything.".................................. ............................................"Yeah she wasn't about to lift anything heavy. "
These are the words someone who feels used would say. He probably felt he was always hearing, Scott do this for me I am pregnant. Scott do that for me, I am pregannt.
2. In talking about what coat Laci might have worn if any. "She usually steals my stuff. "
What husband would ever accuse his wife of stealing his stuff just because she wore it?
3. The phone rings during interview:(On the phone Amy, what's goin' on Amy? Yeah. Oh I don't know, where you at now? In front of my, our house..
There was nothing wrong with saying (my house,) I do it all the time, but he immediatley changed it to (our)
4. Telling Brocchini about the number of calls on his phone:
"Okay. Mine, three were three, two from me and one from Ron, her step-father, asking for whipped cream when we came over that's when I said hey man, he's calling (me) for whipped cream."
Already he is thinking he is the only one around.
5.When ased how long Scott and Laci were married. "So you were married in '97?" Scott says, I believe so.
They were only married 5 years and already he can't remember the year they were wed.
Yep! I think Scott hated Laci.
Right.
Who had the motive? (Maybe more than one person.)
Who had the means? (Maybe more than one person.)
Who had the opportunity? (Probably only one person.)
But WHO HAD ALL THREE? Only one person.
LOL! Wasn't that the funniest sound coming out of such a big guy?
I got the willies when I read that sign he put up to thank the volunteers! I remember others here had seen it, but I hadn't. They were all commenting on how weird it was. Then I saw it, and boy were they right!
Not only the references to telling things to Laci--as I might "tell" my dead parent something--but the reference to "early this morning." Kind of like she came to him when he was half asleep. Like a dream.
And to top it all off, his signature really rings bells: can't use his name, instead he signs with the very distant "Laci's Husband".
He was once again "keeping the focus on Laci", as he kept saying during the interviews. "I'm nobody, pay no attention to me, I'm only relevant because I was the husband of LACI." He wanted to be invisible. He was HIDING--not only from Amber, but from suspicion.
Oooh, good catch about the whipped cream message! I hadn't thought of that.
Yes, I also noticed how vague he was about how long they'd been married. I wrote it off as a guy thing, but he didn't even appear to try to remember.
As an aside, I also think Scott found her step-father intimidating. I can't help but wonder if the invitation to Sharon's (where he would encounter not only Ron, but Ron's mother and sister) was a source of anxiety for Scott.
Laci's mother said she'd asked her about 10 times to commit to coming over on Christmas Eve. Finally, on Dec. 23, Laci says yes, and... next thing you know, boom! Laci's gone. I wonder if Scott had adamantly refused to go, and perhaps that was why Laci had refused to commit: she knew that she couldn't go w/o Scott b/c she was afraid they'd all feel sorry for her coming alone, and it would make Scott look bad, which means she'd have to defend him, etc.
And suppose he was still adamantly refusing to go... and then he hears Laci on the phone, telling her mother, "Okay, we'll come"? Bet it made him mad...
It sounded so weak! As though he were trying to assure everyone that HE wasn't this big strong person who could kill a small pregnant woman!
Reminds me of the ending of "Psycho" in which Norman Bates, who has "become" his very formidable mother, says, "They'll see! I'm not even going to swat that fly! They'll say, 'Why, she wouldn't even hurt a fly!'"
I have to disagree with this statement. I believe Scott killed Laci to be free from marriage.
Scott would have soon left Amber, moving on to another affair with yet another woman.
Not only did he not want to be married anymore, he did not want to be a father either...
He was hoping for infertility...
He was thinking about getting a vasectomy because Amber's daughter would be enough for him....
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