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Terrorists attempt fresh wave of US hijackings ("MUST READ" describes recent attempts)
Scotsman ^ | July 23, 2004 | JAMES HALL

Posted on 07/22/2004 10:47:47 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: GEC

Whatever time is it where you are subtract 3 hours and tell me if anyone ever really knows what time it is. :-)


21 posted on 07/22/2004 11:11:09 PM PDT by bd476
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To: NYC GOP Chick

"As for Woods, have the alleged hijackers on his plane ever been identified as any of the 19 from September 11? Why are you so sure that the suspicious men on that flight were 9/11 hijackers?"

You really should read the interview.
http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/FOX%20NEWS_transcript%20-%20Actor%20James%20Woods.htm

WOODS: So they came in. And I said, "Look, I'm dying to know, were these the guys? And he said, "Well, we've had 36,000 tips in one day. And there's two of us and we're going to be at your house all this morning. So you can do the math, but we can't tell you." You know, so since then, I have identified for sure two of them as two of the terrorists.

O'REILLY: Really?

WOODS: Who actually were not on Flight 11, but one was on flight 175 and one was on flight 77. And I've been told unofficially, not by the FBI, but by someone else in a -- actually a higher level of government, believe it or not, just through a coincidence, through a mutual friend, that all four of them were terrorists involved.

O'REILLY: That is -- so it was basically a rehearsal, what these guys were doing?

WOODS: Right.

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I am not saying that every suspicious person is a terrorist -- but when suspicious persons act in a way, that is consistent with them being potential terrorists, they most certainly should not be ignored.

If the FAA would have taken the suspicious people Woods saw and reported, it would have prevented 9-11.


22 posted on 07/22/2004 11:11:28 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: John Valentine

Please stop being reasonable and making sense. That's just not going to go over well tonight.


23 posted on 07/22/2004 11:11:52 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" -- Hillary Clinton)
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To: FairOpinion

It's 2 in the freaking morning, and I don't feel like reading the entire article.

Obviously, it's imperative to thoroughly investigate and deal with any and all possible terrorist activity, but let's stop assuming that every single instance of weird behavior is an impending attack, OK?!


24 posted on 07/22/2004 11:14:21 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" -- Hillary Clinton)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Nope, not true. Turned out to be a group of musicians on their way to a show.

That's their story and you're stickin' to it.
25 posted on 07/22/2004 11:14:43 PM PDT by jaykay
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To: NYC GOP Chick

You could move to CA, where it is only a little after 11 pm -- early! ;)


26 posted on 07/22/2004 11:15:53 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: patriciamary

13 People in a band? Some must have been back ups? Oh, roadies, thats it. Yeah...ummm..ok. If I am a terrorist attempting to get a large group of ME men on an aircraft in the US post 9/11, I am going to have a reason to be all together. We are in a band, we are going to a soccer tournament...something to calm suspicions should some "alert" screener notices 12 ME men are getting on the aircraft...maybe I should ask some questions. If I am a passenger on that aircraft, and I notice that many ME men...I am getting off in a heartbeat.

Still no explanation as to why they were acting so suspicious///maybe they were practicing there dance routine?


27 posted on 07/22/2004 11:16:37 PM PDT by JohnthePatriot
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To: jaykay

Well, as someone whose immediate neighborhood has been *twice* hit by these bastards and who lives with incessant warnings/alerts/whatever, I long ago learned to be sane and rational about this, or go mad.


28 posted on 07/22/2004 11:16:49 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" -- Hillary Clinton)
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To: FairOpinion

THanks, but I'm a native of this loveable fun city! :)


29 posted on 07/22/2004 11:17:07 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" -- Hillary Clinton)
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To: FairOpinion
However, air marshals who monitored the incident said there was no "legal basis on which to take enforcement action".

It is despicable that the passengers said and did NOTHING. Who the hell cares about the Air Marshalls. This is OUR NATION. And if you see a group of foreigners acting suspiciously...YOU DAMN WELL SAY SOMETHING!!!

30 posted on 07/22/2004 11:17:42 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: ladyinred
Calgon take me away!

The most prudent post so far, for it IS the agenda of the terrorist to terrorize us all into submission, which would achieve a well sought after goal of Al Qaeda to disrupt our society and our monetary foundation, and even better yet for them, if we allowed this to happen without a physical attack on their part.

31 posted on 07/22/2004 11:19:44 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: montag813

But when passengers say something, they are labeled paranoids and ignored.

See story about the 14 potential terrorists/musicians and James Wood's observation and reporting of the suspicious terrorists.

I bet if those 9-11 terrorists Woods saw, had been shaken down, the authorities wouldn't have found anything -- until they murdered 3000 Americans.

That is the flaw of the "legal" approach. By the time you have legal cause, many of us are DEAD.

Pre-emption is the only thing that works against terrorists.

When a few terrorists can kill thousands of innocents, you can't afford to take chances.


32 posted on 07/22/2004 11:21:29 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

Accepting a possible/probable cover story is not that sane and rational. If being suspicious is madness, I'm a raving lunatic.


33 posted on 07/22/2004 11:23:13 PM PDT by jaykay
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To: JohnthePatriot

And why did they act as if they didn't know each other before boarding, and acting as if they know each other well, when they are in flight?


34 posted on 07/22/2004 11:23:45 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: FairOpinion
Pre-emption is the only thing that works against terrorists.

Well said FO!!

Spread that insightful fact around, With FERVOR!!

35 posted on 07/22/2004 11:24:35 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: montag813

If you want to look, I think there is a link above to the story about the flight with the 13 musicians. If not you can search FR, as the story has been posted about 20 times.

If you read the passenger's first hand account, you will discover that the passengers DID do something. They reported it to the flight staff. The flight staff assured the passengers that the situation was being monitored and that there were air marshalls on board.

Now, if you think the passengers should have done something more, I'd like to know just what you think they should have doen, or more to the point, what YOU would have done.

You want to tackle the zouri player, take him to the carpet and break his filthy Syrian fingers?

Man, you'd be working for his family for the rest of your life. That is, after you got out of jail.


36 posted on 07/22/2004 11:24:38 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: FairOpinion
And why did they act as if they didn't know each other before boarding, and acting as if they know each other well, when they are in flight?

That, sir, is one passenger's take on their behavior. I would give it very little credit. It puts the passenger in the position of a mind reader, a talent I doubt she had.

37 posted on 07/22/2004 11:26:31 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: FairOpinion

The threat of terrorism is exaggerated


38 posted on 07/22/2004 11:27:33 PM PDT by Stallone (Make love not war! ~ Lynndie England)
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To: jaykay

"Hire paranoids. Even though they have a high false-alarm rate, they discover all plots."
(Herman Kahn)


It's one of Rumsfeld's Rules.

Today, we can't afford the luxury of NOT being paranoid.


39 posted on 07/22/2004 11:30:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: John Valentine

I would like to refer you to my post 14 & 22.


40 posted on 07/22/2004 11:33:29 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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