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Talking Points for Freepers Re: Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - www.SwiftVets.com
Free Republic.com ^ | August 11, 2004 | The Shrew

Posted on 08/11/2004 10:35:19 PM PDT by The Shrew

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To: The Shrew

I personally will be celebrating when mid-November rolls around and Hanoi John is defeated, the elections are over and the campaign BS is off the air - but then I’ll have to put up with the democrats whining about another “stolen” election.


81 posted on 08/12/2004 3:03:36 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: The Shrew
8.Main anti-swift tactic now seems to be Corsi comments. Response? "Jesse Jackson called New York 'hymietown'. Does that invalidate the civil rights movement?" by Truecons. Sadly, a Freeper is the one who released this info to the other side. Let's hope this is the end of this. (Not Truecons.)

I don't understand this part.

Who is "corsi" and "trucons" and what was said or done that makes it part of an anti-swift comment?

82 posted on 08/12/2004 3:41:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: backhoe; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; ntnychik; Smartass; potlatch; Grampa Dave; onyx


Voters need to hear John Kerry's own traitorous words from 1971 indicting and convicting all other officers and troops except himself and see how he has not really changed at all:

[still being a tad edited]:


http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryReunion.html



83 posted on 08/12/2004 5:43:02 AM PDT by devolve (TERRY KERRY: http://pro.lookingat.us/ShoveIt.html http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryCambodia.html)
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To: xzins
John O'Neill is gooing to be on the WRKO Boston AM 680 talk show tomorrow (Friday) at 8:00 am and I am going to try to call in.

So, I am looking for some additional/new good talking points.

Much has been made of the fact that Kerry volunteered, although I know upon graduation Kerry first requested a deferment which was declined. I volunteered (ROTC) for the Army. I remember when I arrived in country, everyone said whatever you do, don't go to the (First) Cav. Soooo, when I got the 1st Cav, they said whatever you do, don't go to the 1/9th. So when I got to the First of the Ninth. . .

Anyway volunteering for the Navy would seem to have been safer than volunteering for the Army. I know Kerry first spent sometime offshore on a guided missile frigate in the Gulf of Tonkin. I remember reading somewhere that Kerry's first job was supervisoring deck crews stripping paint (or some other boring, unpleasant jobs) and that to avoid this he volunteered for swift boats which up until the time he volunteered had not been used in combat, but rather to deliver smail and supplies so it seemed like a good option, but that right after he volunteered, much to Kerry's surprise as he thought he was going to be the officer in charge of a small (pleasure) yacht, their mission changed putting them into heavy combat. Is this correct? Anyone know where to find more info on this?

Also, I understand just after Kerry chased and shot a wounded enemy solider in the back, he then went to the PX and bought a camera to go back and recreate and film it for later use in his political campaigns. I am not familiar with Navy/Marine uniforms, but again I remember reading that the uniform in this homemade movie was that of a Marine officer uniform that he was not authorized to wear. Is this correct? (Impersonating an officer is a serious offense although I suppose this will not matter to the general voting public (but perhaps it will to some Veterans.)

84 posted on 08/12/2004 6:05:44 AM PDT by S.O.L.
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To: S.O.L.
I do not recall who the sources were on the two questions you raise. I know that I did read that Kerry thought the Swift Boats would be operating offshore. I read it just yesterday, but I see so many articles here that I don't remember where I read it....perhaps it was an O'Neil interview.

The issue of Kerry wearing a Marine Uniform is a new one to me, but I've heard it now a few times in the last few days. However, I watch very little TV, and last night I saw footage of Kerry in green fatigues, a combat helmet, and perhaps an M-16 (?). I'm sure of the green fatigues and helmet. It struck me as really odd because that is not a naval uniform. Perhaps it had been in Vietnam, but I sure don't remember it having been.

It certainly would have been a Marine uniform, however.

The only shows I watched last night were O'Reilly (11 PM) and Brit Hume (12 AM)....odds are that was where I saw the footage, unless I channel-surfed at a commercial.

85 posted on 08/12/2004 6:41:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Grampa Dave; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; ...
Talking Points for Freepers Re:
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - www.SwiftVets.com

People please ping this thread out to your ping list.

Lets help The Shrew to help the Swiftboat Vets.

Sure thing, Grampa! Thanks.


My thanks to Traumer, Arrowhead1952 and Conspiracy Guy for the concept of the above pic


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


86 posted on 08/12/2004 6:58:30 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: The Shrew

Great work here Shrew!


87 posted on 08/12/2004 6:59:09 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Bump


88 posted on 08/12/2004 7:03:49 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: The Shrew; Grampa Dave
You guys are such studs!

haha! Thanks. :^D



89 posted on 08/12/2004 7:04:12 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: yall
Just so we'll have it on this thread .....

John Kerry wrote his Review for "Apocalypse Now" on Oct 14, 1979 in the Boston Herald.

Here is the article in JPG format.

Thank you, thank you FreeRepublic.com !


90 posted on 08/12/2004 7:05:03 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: The Shrew
More stuff related to Kerry's 'service' and other BS .....


Watch this TV AD!

Swiftvets who served with John Kerry talk about
UNFIT, DISHONEST John Kerry


DRUDGE:ANTI-KERRY VETS GATHER FOR ASSAULT;
BOOK CLAIMS KERRY WAR 'FABRICATIONS'


Excellent anti-Kerry video laying out the VietNam case against him...

Great to forward and spread to the public.

http://www.stopjohn.com/movies/hanoi-john.htm


Drudge 08-08-2004
Exclusive: Swift Officers and Vets:
Kerry lied about spending Christmas in Cambodia

Kerry: I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me.

DRUDGE has learned from the accounts of Swift Boat officers and Kerry’s crewmembers that Kerry was never in Cambodia. UNFIT FOR COMMAND authors charge that Kerry made it all up.

“Despite the dramatic memories of his Christmas in Cambodia, Kerry’s statements are complete lies,” according to John O’Neil, co-author and the Swift Boat commander who took over Kerry’s boat. “Kerry was never in Cambodia during Christmas 1968, or at all during the Vietnam War. . . . he was more than fifty miles away from Cambodia.”

Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13 in Cat Lo. Coastal Division 13’s patrol areas extended to Sa Dec, about 55 miles from the Cambodian border. . . . Tom Anderson, Commander of River Division 531, who was in charge of PBRs (small river patrol crafts] confirmed that there were no Swifts anywhere in the area and they would have been stopped had they appeared.

All the living commanders in Kerry’s chain of command . . . deny that Kerry was ever ordered to Cambodia. They indicate that Kerry would have been seriously disciplined or court-martialed had he gone there. At least three of the five crewmen on Kerry’s boat, Bill Zaldonis, Steven Hatch, and Steve Gardner, deny that they or their boat were ever in Cambodia.


Kerry Fitness Reports in Vietnam Show Him Unfit for Command
(Explodes Central Kerry Campaign Lie)

Kerry’s FITREPs are awash in dings, and some of the reports border on the adverse, particularly his combat FITREPs. The FITREPs convey significant performance problems and suggest problems in conduct, so much so that it is surprising that the campaign chose to release them. This may suggest that the FITREPs held from public view are even more adverse.

In what would customarily be an opportunity for a glowing “swan song” FITREP, the Commanding Officer of USS Gridley (DLG-21) tacitly blasts Kerry on his departure for Swift Boat duty by ranking him significantly below the norm in desirability for virtually every Navy assignment possible -– command, staff, whatever. He is a ship handler who is dinged in ship handling. He is in line for command, but his CO doesn’t want him near the bridge. He is slammed in all performance areas –- most notably and significantly in initiative and reliability. The “nice” narrative emphasizes performance in collateral duties, but in the grades and marks, the CO is telling the selection board and detailer loud and clear that this officer is lazy, unreliable and not suited for command. 3 SEP 68 (W.E. HARPER).




WinterSoldier.com


91 posted on 08/12/2004 7:13:41 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: yall
should read "..... and other KERRY BS". Kerry is such a lying jerk !

92 posted on 08/12/2004 7:15:35 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: EdReform

Good morning Ed.

Bumping for donations to the Swift Boat Vet funds.

Donations to keep their tv ads going is as important as with our donations to Free Republic and to re elect GW.


93 posted on 08/12/2004 7:18:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a donor to the Swift Boat Vets fund. Have you donated? If not please do it now!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks Meek.

That movie review is like a giant newspaper rolled up to swat the critters of Komrade Kerry's Kerrorists/aka Lannie Davis and his boy friends, who are trying to smear these honorable vets.


94 posted on 08/12/2004 7:20:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a donor to the Swift Boat Vets fund. Have you donated? If not please do it now!)
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To: PhilDragoo

Beautiful!


95 posted on 08/12/2004 7:27:29 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: The Shrew

The TRUTH always prevails.

God Bless these vets for the heat they are going to take. I just ask God to protect and give them strength.

The left is desperate and they are falling apart daily.

The Good guys always wins in the end.


96 posted on 08/12/2004 7:29:37 AM PDT by JFC
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To: Grampa Dave

Looks like the DNC will regret messing with a Freeper! Ha ha. Good work you guys, you are awewome!


97 posted on 08/12/2004 7:31:40 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Grampa Dave

Good Morning Dave!

I'm sending another donation tomorrow.

Did you see the link I Freepmailed you?


98 posted on 08/12/2004 7:37:25 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

Now, if we can get several thousand freepers to donate to the Swiftboat Vets funds to buy more tv ads, that will be another sharp stick in the maggot eyes of those monitoring FR.


99 posted on 08/12/2004 7:38:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a donor to the Swift Boat Vets fund. Have you donated? If not please do it now!)
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To: The Shrew

Write me one and I will send it to our local paper


100 posted on 08/12/2004 7:40:06 AM PDT by JFC
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