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Bush ‘riots’ may backfire on Kerry
The Sunday Times ^ | August 22, 2004 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 08/21/2004 4:43:05 PM PDT by MadIvan

AT the corner of 10th Street and Second Avenue, an angry New Yorker was haranguing passers-by about “1,000 body bags coming home from Iraq”.

In a park nearby another man, inexplicably attired in a red minidress, handed out invitations to a “war crimes tribunal” where President George W Bush would be “judged by the American people”.

Both men later appeared in St Mark’s church where more than 150 radical political activists had gathered last week to compare notes on a packed agenda of marches, rallies and protests timed to coincide with Bush’s arrival in Manhattan for next week’s Republican convention.

There is a hint of revolution in the streets of New York, but the organisers of what may be one of the biggest anti-government demonstrations in America since the 1960s are wrestling with a dilemma. They may end up helping Bush rather than hurting him.

Far from embracing the rebellion against Republican rule, Democratic officials are keeping their distance from a potentially explosive grassroots upheaval that may prove to be dangerously counterproductive for Senator John Kerry, the Democratic challenger, whose lead in the opinion polls has begun to melt away after a series of attacks on his Vietnam war record.

Some of Kerry’s aides and many of his supporters fear that scenes of radical mayhem in New York will alienate moderate swing voters who may associate any extremist turmoil with the Democrat campaign. “The Republicans will do all they can to make the street protesters look like the disruptive, concealed and explosive heart of the Democratic party,” warned Norman Mailer, the writer who is one of New York’s best-known liberals.

At St Mark’s last week, activists emphasised their commitment to non-violent protest. One anarchist group will hold a tea party outside the mayor’s mansion; other events include a “Books not Bombs youth convergence”, a “hip-hop protest and party” and a public reading of the American constitution.

The centrepiece of a “week of resistance” will be a march on Madison Square Garden, where Bush will deliver a closing address after four days of Republican celebration. Organisers expect at least 250,000 people to march and newspapers have given dire accounts of potential anarchist disruption. One leaked police document warned that protest tactics might include fire bombs, acid throwing and attacks with nail-studded potatoes.

A sense of looming confrontation was heightened when the New York Police Department unveiled its latest riot control gadgets, including helicopters with “night sun” lights to illuminate streets at night, bulletproof personnel carriers and a “mega megaphone” that can broadcast across several city blocks.

At the back of many Democrat minds are memories of their party’s 1968 convention in Chicago, when rioting against the Vietnam war was widely seen as having damaged the campaign of Hubert Humphrey, the party’s presidential nominee who crashed to defeat against Richard Nixon.

Most protests next week will focus on a different war — in Iraq — but to the chagrin of increasing numbers of Democrats, lingering divisions over Vietnam are continuing to dominate the presidential race.

Kerry’s decision to make his Vietnam war record the centrepiece of his run for the White House has embroiled the Democratic challenger in an increasingly vicious battle over his time as the young commander of a US Navy Swift patrol boat.

A bestselling book by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT) has accused Kerry of lying about several key incidents during his service and denounced him for “betraying” fellow veterans when he turned against the war.

Heavily financed by Republican sympathisers close to Bush, the group has also produced a television advertisement that appears to have provoked a sharp decline in support for Kerry among veterans. A second attacking Kerry’s post-war record was unveiled on Friday.

Kerry filed a formal complaint to stop the advertisements this weekend, claiming the SBVT has been acting as a front for the Bush campaign.

Despite evidence that the veterans group is politically motivated and that several members have lied or contradicted themselves, the affair has swamped the Democratic campaign.

While Kerry has aggressively rebutted accusations he did not deserve his medals, he remains in trouble over an old claim that he spent Christmas 1968 under fire after being illegally ordered into Cambodia. In their book Unfit for Command, Swift Boat veterans allege Kerry never visited Cambodia.

In one poll last week the “bounce” that Kerry had received from the Democratic convention last month had shrunk to a one point lead over Bush. A survey by CBS showed Kerry’s support among veterans had fallen; having been tied with Bush at 46% a month ago, he now trails by 18 points.

Next week it will be Bush’s turn to bounce and many New York Democrats are painfully aware that the president may be propelled even higher should rioting erupt on the streets. “Do the activists know what they are going into?” asked Mailer in New York magazine. “Or do they assume that expressing their rage is equal to getting Kerry elected? It could have exactly the opposite effect.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: backfire; convention; gwb2004; kerry; lefties; riots; rnc; rncconvention
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To: MadIvan

Kerry's 'Sister Souljah' riots...


81 posted on 08/21/2004 10:48:55 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: nopardons; musicman
Thanks for the link.I see a LOT of sources for GIGANTIC trouble,in that lineup

You're welcome for the link

Yep there is potential for big trouble .. I guess it depends on how the NYPD can keep them all in line

I remember the Police Chief in Philly got into some kind fight with protesters in 2000 and was hit in the face or something like that

82 posted on 08/21/2004 10:54:31 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: MadIvan

"The centrepiece of a “week of resistance” will be a march on Madison Square Garden, where Bush will deliver a closing address after four days of Republican celebration. Organisers expect at least 250,000 people to march and newspapers have given dire accounts of potential anarchist disruption. One leaked police document warned that protest tactics might include fire bombs, acid throwing and attacks with nail-studded potatoes."

I hope if they do use these despicable tactics, the normal citizens in New York will rise to the occasion and help the NYPD crack some "Rat" heads.


83 posted on 08/21/2004 10:56:43 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: MadIvan; RaceBannon; nutmeg; StarFan; n.y.muggs

GOP Convention ping!!


84 posted on 08/22/2004 1:22:35 PM PDT by Dutchy
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To: Shermy
MSM are probably debating how much to cover the riots, as you don't have to be to bright to figure these people aren't voting for Bush. Will Swing voters want to be aligned with these degenerates, probably not.
86 posted on 08/23/2004 11:56:38 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: MadIvan
I'm surprised that Mailer emerged long enough from his 40 year old alcoholic fog to actually say something sensible. Then again, maybe he overheard the bartender say it just before he slid off his bar stool and landed face down in the spittoon.
88 posted on 08/23/2004 12:12:50 PM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Yehuda
Published in the New York Daily News on May 9, 1970 with the caption: "One man lands punch on face of antiwar demonstrator, sending his glasses flying. Demonstrator allegedly spat upon American flag as he stood at foot of Washington's statue.""

That's one of those forgotten "peace" marches from the hippie era -- when the hardhats fought back.

89 posted on 08/23/2004 12:18:38 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Mo1
Free For All Wet anti-Bush T-shirt Contest Billed as an all day protest event to be held on Sheep Meadow Pasture in Central Park.

Yeah, that sounds like a real high-minded protest...

90 posted on 08/23/2004 12:21:28 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Kerry is a Sitzpinkler!)
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To: NYCVirago; Yehuda

Those were certainly the days, huh?


91 posted on 08/23/2004 12:22:54 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Kerry is a Sitzpinkler!)
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To: McGavin999
Just the kind of people grandpa the democrat wants to be associated with. LOL!


92 posted on 08/23/2004 12:27:39 PM PDT by smith288 (Verry Leftwards '04)
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To: tinamina
The problem with these protests, as I see it, is that the protesters show no awareness that we are living in dangerous times, and that they are causing the police to expend needless energy corralling them when they should be looking out for bombs from al Queda. That shows Americans the total lack of common sense these people have and their egocentric messing with National security.

Well, the thing is that they seem to believe that we really aren't in danger and that the whole war and all the alerts are just political mechanisms trotted out by the administration at whim.

93 posted on 08/23/2004 12:27:58 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Kerry is a Sitzpinkler!)
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To: Begin

ham on rye?


94 posted on 08/23/2004 12:32:53 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: MadIvan
“The Republicans will do all they can to make the street protesters look like the disruptive, concealed and explosive heart of the Democratic party,” warned Norman Mailer...

Since that's what they are.

95 posted on 08/23/2004 12:35:22 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Yehuda

OMG.................I remember that,as if it were yesterday.


96 posted on 08/23/2004 1:50:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MadIvan
Heavily financed by Republican sympathisers close to Bush

Huh? $100,000 from Perry and the rest in donations from the public averaging $59 per donation. How much has Soros given to Moveon.org?
97 posted on 08/23/2004 1:54:29 PM PDT by Republican Red (Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
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To: MadIvan
“The Republicans will do all they can to make the street protesters look like the disruptive, concealed and explosive heart of the Democratic party,” warned Norman Mailer

Mailer has it almost right, but the street protesters anarchists are the explosive heart of the Democratic party. This is exactly what sKerry himself would've supported in Chicago's 1968 violent anti-war riots.

Tom Hayden is one of the organizers of this upcoming rioting in NYC. He was also tried, convicted and sentenced for crossing state lines to incite riots at the 1968 DNC convention. Remember the Chicago 7?

I heard a segment on Hannity's show last week where he spoke with about a half dozen different organizers of various of these "protester" groups coming to NYC. He asked each of them if they would publicly renounce acts of violence and tell their members that they do not condone any violence. To the man, every single one of these organizers refused.

It's my opinion that this is going to be major ugly.

98 posted on 08/23/2004 2:33:17 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: All
Distribute a copy of Norman Podhoretz's World War IV written by a person familiar with the 1960's and the left. If they actually read it I suspect many would no longer participate in protest.
99 posted on 08/23/2004 2:43:51 PM PDT by mpreston
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To: Mo1

The NY Post today had an article saying the 1970's radical Weather Underground will be there. Most have been released from jail recently. One Bill Ayers is a professor curently working at the University of Chicago. Another, Brian Flanagan owns a bar in NYC.


100 posted on 08/23/2004 4:04:19 PM PDT by bluerose
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