Posted on 08/25/2004 8:55:55 PM PDT by auzerais
On Hannity and Colmes tonight, Alan Colmes, again, tried to make the point that the anti-war protestors somehow 'shortened the Vietnam war'.
I had always understood that NorthVietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap had written in his 1985 memoir that, because the 1968 Tet Offensive had been such a disaster for the VietCong, he was ready to sue for peace and end the war. However, because the anti-war demonstrations were truly getting massive in the US at that point, it gave Hanoi just enough hope that if he continued fighting, Hanoi would eventually win [with the help of the anti-US/pro-Hanoi demonstrations, of course]. Thus it can be argued that the anti-war movement actually PROLONGED the Vietnam war and caused an extra 15,000 US deaths.
I know that this is a somewhat matter of opinion and debate, but where can one find Gen. Giap's words (or memoir) to verify this?
With Kerry now claiming that he and his anti-war group "helped end the Vietnam War", it may be the time to re-open this debate and get some clarity for ourselves and especially talkshow hosts to counter the leftists' claims.
Yes, see tagline.
At www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/samples.asp, look at the video clip of James Warner, POW (at bottom of page) for his thoughts on this.
guess I did better with the link than I thought.
The groups pro-longed the war, and helped bring about our loss, by tying up American military resources at home (to quell violent demonstrations and to prevent more complaining about troops being deployed) and making a big political fuss whenever the Johnson or Nixon administration tried to do anything to help bring the war to a successful end.
The invasion to which I made reference was the 1975 campaign.
Only liberals can try and twist Un-American activity into something positive.
Of course it helped prolong the war, Generals from North Korea have stated not only that it prolonged the war, but his (Kerry's) words and actions helped them win the war. Yes, there are N. Korean generals on the Record stating that the N. was losing the war, and they had no chance of winning and that Kerry's comments before Congress were the turning point that allowed them to win.
Kerry is a Turncoat and a traitor, period.
I think someone needs to spit in Kerry's face and call him a Baby Killer sometime during this campaign so he can taste a bit of his own medicine.
Well said - I was in-country from '66-'69 and in SEA till '76 - we kicked their a$$ even with our hands tied.
And then Mr. Kerry gave them what they needed.
they did 2 more mini tets and had to use NVA to work VC duty, because they were essentially destroyed as an effective fighting force. It would have ended with their defeat, or surrender soon after that had the leftists in the US not aided the N by forcing troop reductions and severely limiting actions taken against the invading N.
The statement you're looking for is Lt Col O. North's summarization of Giap's conclusions based on an NVA gen staff col's validation in his '86 book.
So when you hear how screwed we are in the present war in Iraq, just remember, the leftists did it in Viet Nam first. Now it's deja vu in Iraq. You might even notice it's the same leftists players on stage spreading the lies.
Kerry an company helped jepardize and weaken American resolve while giving hope and comfort to North Viet Nam. I credit Bob McNamara for loosing the war.
Not exactly. The demonstrations were getting massive press coverage. The TV press had decided that Vietnam was a lost cause and began to make it so. Film footage was broadcast over and over.
As well, Lyndon Johnson did not do anybody any favors when he declined a second term. Though I hate LBJ's guts, his backing out of the '68 election sent another message to the Viet Cong that encouraged their struggle. LBJ "started" Vietnam to insure his second term, then turned coward when the going got tough (actually, I think he wanted the Democrats to "beg" him to run again).
What Kerry's testimony did was to turn duty in Vietnam into individual struggles of survival for each American soldier. The effect of Kerry's Senate testimony was; "Every man for himself". Not unlike Kerry.
wow, check out these videos. more very honest, very average joes that were worked over by Traitor John, and they speak so simply that you know it is from the heart.
It certainly does.
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