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Bring it on, John (Ollie North)
Townhall ^ | August 27, 2004 | Oliver North

Posted on 08/26/2004 10:25:18 PM PDT by Elkiejg

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'" -- Sen. John Kerry

Dear John,

As usual, you have it wrong. You don't have a beef with President George Bush about your war record. He's been exceedingly generous about your military service. Your complaint is with the 2.5 million of us who served honorably in a war that ended 29 years ago and which you, not the president, made the centerpiece of this campaign.

I talk to a lot of vets, John, and this really isn't about your medals or how you got them. Like you, I have a Silver Star and a Bronze Star. I only have two Purple Hearts, though. I turned down the others so that I could stay with the Marines in my rifle platoon. But I think you might agree with me, though I've never heard you say it, that the officers always got more medals than they earned and the youngsters we led never got as many medals as they deserved.

This really isn't about how early you came home from that war, either, John. There have always been guys in every war who want to go home. There are also lots of guys, like those in my rifle platoon in Vietnam, who did a full 13 months in the field. And there are, thankfully, lots of young Americans today in Iraq and Afghanistan who volunteered to return to war because, as one of them told me in Ramadi a few weeks ago, "the job isn't finished."

Nor is this about whether you were in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968. Heck John, people get lost going on vacation. If you got lost, just say so. Your campaign has admitted that you now know that you really weren't in Cambodia that night and that Richard Nixon wasn't really president when you thought he was. Now would be a good time to explain to us how you could have all that bogus stuff "seared" into your memory -- especially since you want to have your finger on our nation's nuclear trigger.

But that's not really the problem, either. The trouble you're having, John, isn't about your medals or coming home early or getting lost -- or even Richard Nixon. The issue is what you did to us when you came home, John.

When you got home, you co-founded Vietnam Veterans Against the War and wrote "The New Soldier," which denounced those of us who served -- and were still serving -- on the battlefields of a thankless war. Worst of all, John, you then accused me -- and all of us who served in Vietnam -- of committing terrible crimes and atrocities.

On April 22, 1971, under oath, you told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that you had knowledge that American troops "had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam." And you admitted on television that "yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed."

And for good measure you stated, "(America is) more guilty than any other body, of violations of (the) Geneva Conventions ... the torture of prisoners, the killing of prisoners."

Your "antiwar" statements and activities were painful for those of us carrying the scars of Vietnam and trying to move on with our lives. And for those who were still there, it was even more hurtful. But those who suffered the most from what you said and did were the hundreds of American prisoners of war being held by Hanoi. Here's what some of them endured because of you, John:

Capt. James Warner had already spent four years in Vietnamese custody when he was handed a copy of your testimony by his captors. Warner says that for his captors, your statements "were proof I deserved to be punished." He wasn't released until March 14, 1973.

Maj. Kenneth Cordier, an Air Force pilot who was in Vietnamese custody for 2,284 days, says his captors "repeated incessantly" your one-liner about being "the last man to die" for a lost cause. Cordier was released March 4, 1973.

Navy Lt. Paul Galanti says your accusations "were as demoralizing as solitary (confinement) ... and a prime reason the war dragged on." He remained in North Vietnamese hands until February 12, 1973.

John, did you think they would forget? When Tim Russert asked about your claim that you and others in Vietnam committed "atrocities," instead of standing by your sworn testimony, you confessed that your words "were a bit over the top." Does that mean you lied under oath? Or does it mean you are a war criminal? You can't have this one both ways, John. Either way, you're not fit to be a prison guard at Abu Ghraib, much less commander in chief.

One last thing, John. In 1988, Jane Fonda said: "I would like to say something ... to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did. I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I'm ... very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families."

Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?


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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he issued some sort of apology. He'll say anything to get into the White House. Will he mean it? Of course not. It'll be a purely political maneuver, but he will be aided by the lamestream who will report over and over how sincere he is and how it has nothing to do with his Presidential run. It'll be completely transparent to us and, or course to the left, with the mushy middle actually having to chew on it a while to decide whether or not they believe him, which is the whole point anyway.
Go get 'em Ollie!


22 posted on 08/26/2004 10:42:38 PM PDT by kenth
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To: Elkiejg

Kerry's met his match in Olly.


23 posted on 08/26/2004 10:42:50 PM PDT by bamaroots04 (Kerry/Edwards Platform: A lie told often enough becomes the truth)
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To: Elkiejg

Ollie Mania continues!!!


24 posted on 08/26/2004 10:43:09 PM PDT by Deb (Lee Harvey Oswald Served With Honor.)
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To: Elkiejg
I talk to a lot of vets, John, and this really isn't about your medals or how you got them. Like you, I have a Silver Star and a Bronze Star. I only have two Purple Hearts, though. I turned down the others so that I could stay with the Marines in my rifle platoon.

This is one of my favorite passages.

25 posted on 08/26/2004 10:43:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Elkiejg

Ollie should be our next Secretary of State.


26 posted on 08/26/2004 10:43:59 PM PDT by datura (If Kerry wins, we all lose. BIG TIME!! Invest in steel, copper, and lead - while you can.)
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To: Elkiejg

btt


27 posted on 08/26/2004 10:45:40 PM PDT by drq
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To: Lancey Howard

Yep, it's outstanding isn't it? That last sentence evidences the world of difference between John Kerry and real men like Ollie North.


28 posted on 08/26/2004 10:45:52 PM PDT by kenth
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ping!

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29 posted on 08/26/2004 10:47:00 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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FoxFan ping! (Ollie North)

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30 posted on 08/26/2004 10:48:32 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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ping!


31 posted on 08/26/2004 10:51:32 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: Elkiejg

Semper Fi, Ollie

Finally the undying hatred for Hanoi John has been spelled out without partisanship blocking their brain to pen connection.


32 posted on 08/26/2004 10:52:56 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Elkiejg

Wonderful!!!


33 posted on 08/26/2004 10:53:35 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Elkiejg

It's amazing, you can feel the festering anger. It's healing time folks. This time the battle of Vietnam is going to be won, and all those vets who have been POWs for the last 35 years are finally going to be free.


34 posted on 08/26/2004 10:54:30 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: nutmeg
Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?

You're right. I forgot about it. Good point.

35 posted on 08/26/2004 10:55:48 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry, release your records as GW did. Prove you were in Cambodia under Nixon in 1968)
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To: Elkiejg

Kerry's got to know that an apology goes NOWHERE. Who accepts on behalf of the dead?


36 posted on 08/26/2004 10:56:59 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Elkiejg
The man is a class act...gee..can you imagine being told that you are not even fit to guard Abu Ghraib. That is one slam that sinister kerry wouldn't get up from quickly. Good post.......not only did he (sinister) betray the Vets I wonder if he realizes that he has blood on his hands of many good and honorable men. It would be hard to sleep at night. Who is Jane pitching for???
37 posted on 08/26/2004 10:57:28 PM PDT by marmar (Faith is a beautiful thing.....)
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To: Elkiejg

ping


38 posted on 08/26/2004 11:04:02 PM PDT by boycott
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To: kenth

Kerry and Co. have vehemently defended his "Genghis Khan" war-crimes statements throughout the campaign, while the Dems stand by him at their own peril. How would Kerry have responded to Abu Ghraib???


39 posted on 08/26/2004 11:04:42 PM PDT by bamaroots04 (Kerry/Edwards Platform: A lie told often enough becomes the truth)
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To: Elkiejg
I copied, pasted and e-mailed.

Let the world know what an unfit scum sKerry really is.

40 posted on 08/26/2004 11:09:20 PM PDT by Kate of Spice Island ('Effin the ineffible since '91." FirstIAmAUSSoldier and I approve of this message...)
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